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Old 11-01-02, 07:03 AM
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i hate to admit it but this show is a guilty pleasure of mine. Why watch the west wing when you can watch a quality show like the bachelor. then again if i was the bachelor all i would be doing is trying to sleep with them all forget marriage.
Now seriously, this show could be really bad but the bachelor is done in a way that the show seems as classy as it possibly could given the circumstances. they chose as the bachelor a totally nice guy who unlike me behaves in an extremely classy manner. I am not sure how the show will work with a bachelorette, especialley kristi from the first show who said to the host after he said to her all these guys know from the first show you said you never had an orgasm with a man before. she replied i know, we should line up all 25 guys and have a competition. real clasy. if a guy said that he would be crucified.

on the 3 girls remaining, they all have flaws gwen is hot porn str type and seems super nice but she is a little weird looking forehead. brooke is only 22 and as we all know by experience when your 22 you reaaly do not know what you want. i think she was engaged before. but she seems like such a sweety, but that albama room would have me more worried than the fact her father is in jail. Helena is from jersey so automatically she is cool, but she is definetely protecting herself and i can not say i blame her. she is like shannon from the first show but not as annoying. Helena is being smart and asking questions that should be asked but they are difficult to handle when your dating a bunch of other women. I do not think she is into aaron nearly as much as gwen and brooke and I think that will go against her in the end. the girl i liked the most on the show was hayle, she was a sweety, a little clumsy and dorky but that made her all the more cute.

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I think Gwen will "win".....
Old 11-01-02, 08:57 AM
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The comparison of Helene to last year's Shannon is pretty good. Though Helene doesn't seem nearly as bitchy as Shannon did. I think it's kind of good that Helene asks so many questions...it shows Aaron that she cares about what's going on. She definitely doesn't seem to have fallen for him the way Gwen or Brooke have, though, so I'm thinking that Aaron still sees her as a challenge. That's why I said in a previous post a week or two ago that I think he'll try extra hard to impress her. I think he'd want to be with her the most, but I think he realizes that he's going to have to work extra hard for her. The question is....does he want to work to get Helene, or is he going to go the "easy" (not meant as a comment on sexual promiscuity) route by choosing Brooke or Gwen?

I think Brooke's family's love affair with NASCAR would make me more worried than the Alabama shrine. When that one guy gave the analogy that NASCAR was like fine wine, I busted a gut. Only in the deep south would you hear NASCAR being compared to a fine wine.

Ozzy, regarding Alex, last year's bachelor, I had a feeling his relationship with Amanda wouldn't last. He's an idiot. I would have totally picked Trista over Amanda. The only reason he picked Amanda was because he was fixated on her breasts. But I guess after he got what he wanted from Trista (the poontang), he decided he'd go after Amanda. Dumbass. I think it's hilarious that a lot of people thought he was gay.

Of the 3 girls, I think Gwen is the only safe bet to make it to the final round. I agree with sabre in that I thought age might be a factor with Brooke, but it appears that she is more emotionally mature than most women her age and is in fact ready to settle down and get married.

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Originally posted by immortal_zeus


I think Brooke's family's love affair with NASCAR would make me more worried than the Alabama shrine. When that one guy gave the analogy that NASCAR was like fine wine, I busted a gut. Only in the deep south would you hear NASCAR being compared to a fine wine.


Dude - it's Alabama. I hate to stereotype but I defy you to find a Bama resident (born and bred there) who does not worship NASCAR and the Crimson Tide. The only exceptions would be those who attended Auburn.

I agree that Gwen is a sure bet for the final 2. Helene and Brooke will battle it out for the other spot.
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I am superficial too. I think Gwen should be booted out next because her forehead is TOO big.....she knows it too. It's almost like she is suffering from some sort of encephalitis. Man, I just scrolled down to see Gwen's pics....her forehead is freakin huge! It's almost as big as Sloth, the funny looking guy from the Goonies.

It was a given that Angela would be booted out. I'm really surprised she even made it this far. She is cute though. But she's way more quiet then the other girls and after meeting her roommate, we see why she has a skeptic view on dating. It appears that they both do not trust guys. Perhaps they are lesbians? Lesbians on prozac. Maybe Aaron kept her all this while because he thought she was mysteriously too quiet and probably very wild in bed.

Helene is easily the smartest of the group. Also the most attractive girl. She is a definite challenge for Aaron and I think she will win. Aaron seems to be the kind of guy who likes challenges. He will want to conquer her. "She will be mine....oh yes, she will be mine."

Brooke? She is too young and she doesn't know what she wants. Let her go home and cry. I am from Alabama and I think her family are all psychos and redneck.

Helene, if you are reading this, I wish you the best with Aaron. If not, please give me a call, you can cry on my shoulder anytime.
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Originally posted by Red Dog
Dude - it's Alabama. I hate to stereotype but I defy you to find a Bama resident (born and bred there) who does not worship NASCAR and the Crimson Tide. The only exceptions would be those who attended Auburn.

I agree that Gwen is a sure bet for the final 2. Helene and Brooke will battle it out for the other spot.
Oh yeah....another funny thing I remembered from last night's episode.

When John David, Brooke's step-dad, said something along the lines like, "If we went to Wal-Mart to pick out a guy for Brooke, we couldn't find anybody better than Aaron." Wal-Mart!!!

Old 11-01-02, 12:06 PM
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Originally posted by Fooman
I am superficial too. I think Gwen should be booted out next because her forehead is TOO big.....she knows it too. It's almost like she is suffering from some sort of encephalitis. Man, I just scrolled down to see Gwen's pics....her forehead is freakin huge! It's almost as big as Sloth, the funny looking guy from the Goonies.


HEY YOU GUUUUUUYS!

Originally posted by Fooman
It was a given that Angela would be booted out. I'm really surprised she even made it this far. She is cute though. But she's way more quiet then the other girls and after meeting her roommate, we see why she has a skeptic view on dating. It appears that they both do not trust guys. Perhaps they are lesbians? Lesbians on prozac. Maybe Aaron kept her all this while because he thought she was mysteriously too quiet and probably very wild in bed.
The quiet ones are always the freakiest.

Originally posted by Fooman
Helene is easily the smartest of the group. Also the most attractive girl. She is a definite challenge for Aaron and I think she will win. Aaron seems to be the kind of guy who likes challenges. He will want to conquer her. "She will be mine....oh yes, she will be mine."
I don't know if I'd go so far as to say that she is the smartest...but I think she's the most attractive. Don't objectify women. They shouldn't be conquered. They should be handled with care. Like fine wine. Or NASCAR.

Originally posted by Fooman
Brooke? She is too young and she doesn't know what she wants. Let her go home and cry. I am from Alabama and I think her family are all psychos and redneck.
So is Jeff Gordon your favorite driver?

Originally posted by Fooman
Helene, if you are reading this, I wish you the best with Aaron. If not, please give me a call, you can cry on my shoulder anytime.
No Helene, pick me!

Old 11-02-02, 03:56 AM
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Foo, I agree with you on Haylee. I was just digging her when she got the boot, I think she would have been the tastiest choice. And Zeus, your post reminded me of something I found lame; who goes around with 2 first names like John David? How does that conversation go? Hello I'm John David. Oh, hi John. No...it's John David. Oh, well, I guess I'll be leaving now freak. Sheesh, call me John David, that guy should be thankful people speak to him at all with his great sense o' humor (you be mean to her and my brother will kill you,...Uh, what?) and his 'bama room. End of rant.
Old 11-07-02, 01:44 PM
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WOW. While I was watching the rose ceremony, I thought for sure that Brooke was going to be ousted. I thought Aaron might think that she wasy too emotionally involved or something, but I guess not.

I stated before that if it were me, I would have booted Gwen next but I didn't think that Aaron would.

Here's what he had to say in his diary on the official website. It should give more insight into why he chose Helene and Brooke:

The first two exotic dates were awesome. I feel great right now, and I'm getting ready for the third exotic date with Brooke. If I had to make a decision right now, I would give Helene and Gwen a rose, but Brooke's a sweetheart and I wanted to give us a fair chance as well when we go to Hawaii.

Going into the sixth rose ceremony I had one last request. I had a small favor to ask of Chris, the host. I needed five minutes with each of the women. I just wanted to see them one last time because I was struggling with the decision. It was tormenting me.

He granted my wish, and I saw Helene first and we had a nice little conversation, and I asked her a couple very serious questions. I had already made up my mind. I knew that Helene was going to receive a rose. So, it was between Brooke and Gwen in my mind.

I talked to Brooke next. She came in and she really just put herself out there. She told me, and not only then but also on her video message, that she thought I was making a mistake if I didn't choose her, and that I was making a mistake that both of us would have to pay for the rest of our lives, and those were pretty bold words. I know it was tough for her to put herself out there in that way, and that meant a lot to me.

Gwen, on the other hand, came in and she just didn't seem that much in the moment. She came across very indifferent to me. I don't know if it was because she was confident that she was going to receive a rose because our exotic date went so well, or if maybe she had decided I might not be the one for her, I don't know.

That was the turning point for Gwen, and that conversation, coupled with the video message, just wasn't very dynamic. It just didn't seem like she was that interested in me. So I decided to give Brooke a rose instead and give us a chance to get to know each other even better.
Here are the poll results thus far as to who Aaron should ask to marry him.

Brooke: 52.75%
Helene: 49.74%

Unfortunately, the poll doesn't say how many people have voted.

Anyway, I'd like to say that, in my opinion, Aaron is much more likeable than last year's bachelor, Alex. Aaron just seems more sincere and less horny.

Next week's preview looks good. It should be fun to watch. For others who may be reading this thread who don't watch the previews for upcoming episodes because they don't like knowing what's coming up, please include any possible discussion of next week's show in spoilers so as not to ruin any surprise for them.

And last but not least, here's my prediction for who Aaron is going to choose...I don't have any "insider" info so don't worry about this spoiling anything for you. I'll put my answer in a spoiler just in case some of you are sensitive to that kind of information.
Spoiler:
Helene


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I think he is in love with Helene (since he said he loved one of the 2 remaining ladies to Gwen). This may be off-base but I think he really liked Gwen a lot - more than Brooke and he let her go at this stage in order to make his final choice (which I think will be Helene) easier. Had he kept Gwen around, I believe that he worried about being so deeply conflicted btwn her and Helene.

I am really surprised at the results of that poll. I think he and Helene are a far better match and he seems more into her than Brooke.
Old 11-07-02, 04:51 PM
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I agree about Helene being the one he's falling in love with.

I don't agree with your reasoning of why he chose Brooke over Gwen, though.

Here's another excerpt from a secret diary I found:

Although I felt a deep connection to both Gwen and Brooke, I could not overlook the fact that Gwen's forehead was huge. I could pictured Gwen and I being a married couple, but whenever thoughts of children popped into my head, I pictured our children wearing hats for the rest of their lives to hide their foreheads.
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I have been on the Helene bandwagon for a few weeks now, but now she gets on my nerves. Too controlling and insecure, plus, I don't believe she really likes him, just wants to win.

Polar opposites are left. Brooke=fragile, emotional, young and needs to be taken care of. Makes a man feel strong and needed.

Helene=strong, older, self-sufficient and tough. Poses a challenge, but is she worth it?

Aaron, IMHO is a guy who DOESN'T really like a challenge. He wants someone who thinks he is all that and a bag. He is insecure as hell and looks to the women to convince him that they are really into him. "I turned on Gwen because she really didn't seem so into me." I am thinking he will go for Brooke.

Is there any relevance that he has always picked Brooke last for the past 3-4 shows? Maybe he likes seeing her sweat, but always knows she is getting a rose.....

Now, I backed Justin, so I have a history of being wrong, but even though Helene is hot, I gotta go with Brooke. She strokes his ego and makes him feel like a real man. Not a guy who works at daddy's bank.....
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Originally posted by Big Quasimodo
Now, I backed Justin, so I have a history of being wrong
Who dat?

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Originally posted by immortal_zeus
Who dat?



Him. Just establishing my history of backing losing causes...
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Ok. Gotcha.

Old 11-09-02, 08:06 AM
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i think he will end up choosing Helene and that will be a huge mistake. Brooke really cares for aaron while i think helene just wants to win the game. believe me i am from nj and i know nj girls. the one thing that honestly touched me about helene is when her father or mother said at helene's house that it was nice to see helene smile because he had not seen her smile in a long time. but i am still backing brooke.
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Originally posted by sabre
i think he will end up choosing Helene and that will be a huge mistake. Brooke really cares for aaron while i think helene just wants to win the game. believe me i am from nj and i know nj girls. the one thing that honestly touched me about helene is when her father or mother said at helene's house that it was nice to see helene smile because he had not seen her smile in a long time. but i am still backing brooke.
I kind of agree with you. I think Helene is starting to really generate feelings for Aaron, but not nearly on the same scale that Brooke has. Also, I think Brooke would make a better wife.

I think he'll end up picking Helene, but I think he should pick Brooke.

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Did you guys watch last night's episode?

It was at times funny, but at times sort of sad. I felt pretty bad for Gwen because you could tell that she still had feelings for Aaron and had a lot of unresolved issues. I think if she were more assertive, he would've picked her for the final two, but that's not her style. She wanted him to make his own decision.

Surprisingly (), Christi didn't come off as much of a psycho as before. She still seemed kinda psycho when she and Suzanne started getting all catty with each other, though. She looked better than before as well, which isn't really saying much, but oh well.

Heather from Texas' sudden weeping at Frances' joke was pathetic. Please! Frances was just kidding around and just saying that she was grateful that Texas was cooking for all of them. See, that's why I didn't like Heather! Get over it.

Liangy was conspicuously absent. Conspicuously absent to me anyway, since my friend and I both thought she was pretty hot but had way too much attitude (she was cut after the first round). She probably didn't want to come on the show because she's a biatch. As far as I could tell, she was the only one missing. Here's her picture for those of you who don't remember her:



I wish they would have made this episode into a 2 hour episode so we could hear from more of the bachelorettes and more from Aaron as well.

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As others have mentioned, Brooke is young.

While the age is not really a problem in terms of compatibility, I believe at that age, girls usually want to get married without knowing what is all involved in a marriage. They are easily swept away by dates, especially the fantasy ones arranged by ABC. I'm sure that the fact that he is loaded also helps a lot. Who knows, Aaron may also play the father figure in Brooke's mind since her real father is in prison. She wants to feel secure and have a man in her life. While there is nothing wrong with that, I believe she is jumping in too fast (much like the other girls who went ga-ga-goo-goo over him after meeting him only a few times) There is some complex that explains it which I forgot the name. Oedipus or Electra complex? something along that.

On the other hand, Helene is smart in the sense that she knows what is going on. She's not some girl that will easily fall in love with a guy for his money, etc. I could be wrong about that. But I believe she knows more about life than Brooke and that's why I like her better. Yeah, she plays hard to get at times, but I do believe Aaron likes the challenge. For one, he runs a business so he faces challenges all the time. Second, he was spoon fed his entire life so he may actually welcome challenges since he saw so little of it growing up.

Okay, the real reason why is because she is more attractive. haha.

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