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Old 10-17-02, 12:38 AM
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The One & Only "The Bachelor" Thread

There doesn’t seem to be too much interest in this show in here, so I just decided to make this a One & Only thread instead of a weekly one.

Damn, I love this show.

Geez, I hate Christi…how she even made it past the first cut is beyond me. Aaron hit the nail on the head when he said she had a “fatal attraction” thing going on.

I don’t think it was that big of a deal that Aaron gave his cell phone number to Helene. I think the other girls (i.e., Kyla and Shannon) blew it out of proportion. He probably just wanted Helene to stay and gave her his number so she could call him so that he could talk her out of leaving the show.

Helene and Aaron’s one-on-one date was nice. Very romantic and very “Pretty Woman”-ish.

Aaron and Brooke’s one-on-one date was okay, but didn’t seem to have quite the romanticism as the date with Helene. Aaron sensed that Brooke’s father has had a rough past and it’s good that he didn’t force her into talking about it.

Here are the 6 remaining girls in the order that I think Aaron likes them:

Helene she’s attractive and seems nice.
Brooke she seems really sweet and I’ve liked her from the beginning. I don’t know if her dad’s background is going to hurt her chances.
Gwen I call her a Barbie Doll cause her face reminds me of one. She seems nice.
Heather from Texas I don’t like her. I didn’t like the fact that she was badmouthing Brooke and I especially didn’t like her interrupting Aaron during his confessional.
Angela - – she’s cute and seems genuinely nice.
Hayley – I’m surprised she made the cut.

The girls who didn’t get roses tonight:

Christi - Least attractive and worst personality out of the bunch. Way too emotional.

Kyla – I call her the Mormon porn star cause she looks like one. Everybody seems to think that she has implants which reinforces my nickname for her. If she’s a virgin, why does she need implants? I've been around Mormons and she definitely breaks the mold.

Shannon – until she jumped on Helene for Aaron giving her his phone number, I thought she seemed really sweet. I still like her, though. She said her favorite movie was “The Shawshank Redemption” which also happens to be one of my favorites. Nice dimples.

Heather from California - she seemed nice, but didn’t get much camera time.

Just coincidence that Kyla and Shannon, the two girls that gave Helene the most grief about the phone number thing, didn’t get roses tonight? Hmm…maybe, maybe not.

Aaron’s diary from episode 3:

I had a few hours alone with Ryan and Melissa, after they had spent a few days with the ladies over at their villa, to find out what they thought about everybody. Ryan and Melissa didn't sway me in any way. They really just confirmed what I had been thinking about everybody. They saw right through a couple of the ladies that were totally kissing up to them. Those were opinions that I had already formed based on my initial experiences.

According to Ryan and Melissa, Christy was somewhat possessive of their time, and they saw right through it. She was trying to come across as this very even keel, very levelheaded person, but they really weren't impressed with their time with Christy.

The California Adventure date was interesting. Christy was on that date, and I had given us a second chance to get to know each other better, and it just wasn't there. Heather from Texas was also on that date, and I didn't have a vibe toward her. Heather from California was on that date, and I really like her. She's a cutie. She has a nice personality and a lot going for her.

And Angela was also on the date. We got to spend some nice one on one time, took a little romantic walk together, and that was the turning point for her. That was when she said, "Oh Aaron, I'm glad we got to spend this time together, I can see now why the other girls like you." We went from there.

At the third invitation night Heather from California came to me outside, and she was very indifferent. She wasn't into me like I was her, and she said a couple things that later she admittedly regretted saying. I didn't want to give a rose to somebody who is not totally into me and this whole project. So I decided at that point in time not to give the rose to her, and I gave it to Heather from Texas instead.

The three-person beach date with Gwen, Kyla, and Hayley was a lot of fun. They all tried surfing and proved to me how gregarious and adventurous they are. I really got to know Kyla on that date. We had a nice walk along the beach together, and she's just really surprising, she has been a dark horse. Being a Mormon I just figured she would be so much more conservative than she really is, and she's outgoing. I've been very intrigued by her. Hayley, on the other hand, has the respect of all the ladies in the villa. She has the respect of my friends. Everybody speaks so highly of her. For whatever reason, I don't have that impression of her. She's admittedly very shy around me and not herself where she wishes she could open up to me. And Gwen, we've had some pretty good dates together. The hot air balloon date was great. The other time we spent at Del Mar together was a lot of fun, so I really enjoyed spending that time with Gwen because she's a sweetheart and we have a lot in common.

Although I really liked Kyla a lot and was enjoying our time together, I just didn't have a sense of a chemistry that we would need to go that next step in a relationship, and so that's why at that point in time I decided not to give her a rose. Christi and I, in my opinion, don't have much in common. She is very, very emotional, and on more than one occasion she has had tears in her eyes when she's talking to me, and I don't understand why she's upset. I'm a very sensitive person, but I'm not emotional like that, and I don't think we have that much in common.
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Zeus, maybe it's just you and me on board with this guilty pleasure. Appreciate your effort on the post, I found the diary filled in a few missing pieces.

I wanted him to pick Christi just to see how psycho she would get. I loved his talk on how he just couldn't understand how she could already be in love with him. Can someone explain why a virgin Mormon has implants? I guess next I should expect an Amish Dominatrix.

Hey Zeus, wanna start some odds on who's gonna take it all?
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It would've been interesting seeing Christi make the cut...but if she had, I would've thrown something at my TV. She's gonna have a hard time getting dates in real life after that tirade. If I'm not mistaken, she's going to be making the morning TV show circuit tomorrow. Oh boy.

I actually thought Kyla was pretty hot...streaks, tan, fake boobs and all. Hmm...an Amish dominatrix...

As far as odds go...

I'd say Helene has the edge. She's attractive and it was obvious from the time that she and Aaron were on the train that he liked her. I'd give her 3:1.

Brooke's tricky because Aaron obviously likes her, but her dad's in prison and that might hurt her chances. I think Aaron could overlook that fact, though. Aaron was probably a little perturbed that she hesitated at the rose ceremony. 5.5:1.

Gwen is nice. She's attractive and seems to have a good head on her shoulders. They also spent some quality time on the balloon ride and sucked face. I'd say 7:1.

Heather...I think Aaron has sensed that he should take everything she says with a grain of salt after she badmouthed Brooke when Heather and Aaron were on the Disneyland ride. Heather comes off as a nice person, but I think she's probably really sneaky. I think Aaron was taken aback by her sitting on his lap during his confessional because she seemed kind of drunk and that was probably her desperation attempt to get a rose at the ceremony. Frankly, I'm surprised he gave her a rose. 15:1.

Angela's my dark horse. She's cute and seems like a nice person. She seems a little quiet, though, so she's going to have to be a bit more extroverted to stand out in this crowd. She's also from Missouri, where Aaron is from, so that might give her a slight edge. He also called her to wish her a happy birthday when he was on a group date, though frankly, I didn't read too much into that. 18:1.

Hayley hasn't made much of an impression on Aaron (or me). She seems pretty genuine, but I don't think she has much of a chance. 25:1

What's your take?

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Am I the only one that finds it funny that ABC has a show which makes ABC the pimp in the "dating" equation?
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Originally posted by Patman
Am I the only one that finds it funny that ABC has a show which makes ABC the pimp in the "dating" equation?
Yes.

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Hmmmm, let me see here. Christi a psycho, naaw. She's a f'in psycho!! What an obsessive person. Run Aaron, run....

This show is addictive. It is amazing how the women are getting all bent out of shape over a guy. It's not like a guaranteed marriage or wealth or anything.

Nonetheless, I will continue to watch.
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Originally posted by Cheddarmuff
Hmmmm, let me see here. Christi a psycho, naaw. She's a f'in psycho!! What an obsessive person. Run Aaron, run....

This show is addictive. It is amazing how the women are getting all bent out of shape over a guy. It's not like a guaranteed marriage or wealth or anything.

Nonetheless, I will continue to watch.
Well, marriage isn't necessarily guaranteed, but heavily implied.

And in this case, marriage = wealth because Aaron is a rich bastard.

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Originally posted by immortal_zeus
Well, marriage isn't necessarily guaranteed, but heavily implied.

And in this case, marriage = wealth because Aaron is a rich bastard.

No doubt that he is rich, but aren't these fantasy dates provided and funded by ABC? Does he even spend any money for these dates?

I personally feel that these girls are falling in love with the whole fantasy experience rather than Aaron himself. He just seems like an average guy who is successful in some small town. Whoopie doo. Would the girls feel the same way had the dates not comprised of hot air balloon rides, trips to Disney, etc. etc.

BTW, I'm glad to see everyone here disliking Christy. I'm surprised she made it this far. I wanted her to get cut earlier on, ever since the Napa Valley incident. Oh yeah, I thought it was funny during the interview after she got cut. Something about how she wanted a second chance to show Aaron that she's not some emotional basketcase, and during the entire interview, she was sobbing her head off.

Yeaaah, right Christy, you need some psychiatric help. However, I must admit that she was the most entertaining...for some reason, I liked seeing her cry. It was funny. haha.

I personally vote for either Helene or Angela.
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Originally posted by Fooman
No doubt that he is rich, but aren't these fantasy dates provided and funded by ABC? Does he even spend any money for these dates?

I personally feel that these girls are falling in love with the whole fantasy experience rather than Aaron himself. He just seems like an average guy who is successful in some small town. Whoopie doo. Would the girls feel the same way had the dates not comprised of hot air balloon rides, trips to Disney, etc. etc.

BTW, I'm glad to see everyone here disliking Christy. I'm surprised she made it this far. I wanted her to get cut earlier on, ever since the Napa Valley incident. Oh yeah, I thought it was funny during the interview after she got cut. Something about how she wanted a second chance to show Aaron that she's not some emotional basketcase, and during the entire interview, she was sobbing her head off.

Yeaaah, right Christy, you need some psychiatric help. However, I must admit that she was the most entertaining...for some reason, I liked seeing her cry. It was funny. haha.

I personally vote for either Helene or Angela.
I'm pretty sure ABC picks up the expenses for all the dates. He is rich, though. Remember, he's a VP of a family-owned regional banking business. He was probably born with a silver spoon in his mouth, but hey, whatever works! I'd take advantage of that too, if I were in his shoes.

Yes, the girls are influenced by the whole fantasy aspect of the show and going on these fantastical romantic dates. I think they realize that and try to separate themselves from that, when thinking of Aaron. I don't know if you watched the show last year, but the Bachelor and Amanda didn't get engaged partly because they wanted to date outside of the show and in real life circumstances before committing themselves to each other. They realized they had been dating in a fantasy setting and wanted to see if they felt the same way about each other when they were in the real world.

If I were a woman, I'd probably get swept up in all that romantic stuff, too. Aaron probably has the means to do some of that stuff (like the plane ride and dinner), but I don't think he'd have the pull to rent the Hollywood Bowl or Disneyland Adventures.

I thought the exact same thing when Christi was crying and declaring she wasn't an emotional basketcase. I have to admit that she was certainly very entertaining. I could barely stand to look at her, though.

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I just saw on "Entertainment Tonight" that Shannon thinks Helene and Gwen have the best shot at winning.

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Zeus, I like your odds and it's hard to argue with your logic. I've never done too well at these pools because I always go for the dark horse and this show is no different.

My top 3 are Helene (no surprise), Gwen, and Heather. All 3 are mature, intelligent knockouts that are out to win. I think Brooke is on her way out very soon. Very young, very emotional and packing deep family baggage. Angela being from Mizzou can be both good and bad.

As for Aaron himself, I'll try and say this and still remain cool, but I think he brings a lot to the table. I can only dream of the action I would have received if when I was single I could fly a plane, play classical piano, vp of bank and all the perks that come with that, good looking, great shape, yada yada.

Now, after all this guilty pleasure talk, I need to watch a good DVD to purge my system.
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Originally posted by Ozzy's Bat Head

As for Aaron himself, I'll try and say this and still remain cool, but I think he brings a lot to the table. I can only dream of the action I would have received if when I was single I could fly a plane, play classical piano, vp of bank and all the perks that come with that, good looking, great shape, yada yada.

After posting that, you'd better pop in a heterosexual porn DVD to redeem yourself. Better yet, maybe a girl-on-girl porn DVD.

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I'm sure he's loaded. He probably owns his own plane too.

I think he messed up on his choices last round, but I think he definitely made good choices this time. I definitely would put Helene, Gwen, and Brooke in the top-3. However, you have to wonder about Brooke hesitating. Because of that and Brooke's young age, I think Helene and Gwen are the favorites - and they are my favorites of the remaining women.

to Christy getting the boot. She should have been booted last time.
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Originally posted by Ozzy's Bat Head
Can someone explain why a virgin Mormon has implants?. . . .
.....wasn't that how last season's girl (name?) "won" the game
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Okay - predictions...which 2 get cut tonight?

Angela


Brooke


Gwen


Hayley


Heather


Helene
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I like the results so far.

I disliked Heather from the beginning so I'm glad to see her cut. Her speech in the end was funny to watch...mainly because she was highly emotional and crying. I think she is just as psychotic as the other girl (christy?)

Gwen and Aaron hit it off, but again, it was probably because of the whole fantasy date that they were in. Cinderalla? c'mon.

I don't know much about Angela...she always seems like she is on Prozac. Brooke IS young, but what kind of guy would not want a girl younger than him?

About Helene, she doesn't play games like the other girls and she doesn't suck up or say stupid things like how wonderful he is, etc. She is the smartest of the bunch. think Helene will take home the final rose If not, Aaron must be gay.
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Well, my darkhorse Heather got the boot tonight (yes, I realize I was the only one that liked her) and I was little disappointed to see Haylee go.

Of the 4 left, I'm most intrigued by Angela (that was a great Prozac line, Foo) and Helene, but I would worry about Helene's maintenance level. Hey, that brings up an interesting thought; of the 4 remaining, which would be the highest maintenance? I vote Helene, Angela, Brooke, Gwen.

Next week looks bizarre, I especially like the comment from the dad that said her sister is a marine and if Aaron hurts her, he will kill him, very nice.
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Next week looks bizarre, I especially like the comment from the dad that said her sister is a marine and if Aaron hurts her, he will kill him, very nice.
This looks like it will turn into the show "Meet my folks" that was on during the summer.I didn't see the previous installment of the bachelor,was there a meet the parents segment last time also?
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I still think Gwen if the favorite. He was really into Gwen before the Cinderella date. I really like her and Helene.
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Gwen's baby face reminds me of that porn starlet, Silvia Saint.
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What I enjoy about this show are these women who wouldn't give ME a second look all crying because their life is over because this guy didn't pick them!
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Originally posted by AlainDelon
This looks like it will turn into the show "Meet my folks" that was on during the summer.I didn't see the previous installment of the bachelor,was there a meet the parents segment last time also?
Yes, last year the bachelor met the parents of the final girls as well.

Well, my prediction has held up so far. My top 3 made it and my dark horse made it.

The more I see Gwen, the more I don't like her. She has a nice personality and a good head on her shoulders, but I just don't like the way she looks. Her forehead is too big or something. Yes, I'm superficial and callous. I can criticize all I want because these girls are up for scrutiny because they're on a show pimping themselves to the bachelor. I know Aaron likes her, though.

I have a feeling that Aaron is going to try extra hard to please Helene because he likes her a lot and because she made that comment about not trying if she feels she's not going to win. He's putty in her hands.

I think Brooke's timing about telling Aaron about her dad was good. I don't think Aaron minds that her dad is in prison...he knows that Brooke loves her father a lot and everything. Hell, if I was into someone, I wouldn't care if her father was in prison. Unless he was in there for murder or something really heinous. I wonder if they'll reveal why Brooke's father is in prison? I'm curious.

Angela has her work cut out for her. As far as I know, she's the only one out of the four who hasn't yet kissed Aaron. I think that works against her because it means she hasn't really gotten super close to him yet the way the others have. I kind of think that Aaron might be bored meeting her family since they're both from Missouri and he'll be in a somewhat familiar setting. Or maybe he'll be super comfortable and that'll work in Angela's favor.

As of right now, I'm thinking that Angela will be the next one booted.

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No surprises from last night. Pretty easy to predict that Angela would be the next to go.
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Well Angela's home date was pretty bad. Or at least it looked that way on TV. Her roommate is psycho and her family didn't seem at all interested in Aaron. It was funny when Angela was in the limo giving her testimonial and she said that she wished she wasn't the "cold-hearted bitch" that she was. I kept thinking to myself, "Get away from that damn roommate of yours! It's her fault!" Angela seems like a nice girl to me, though.

Brooke's family seemed like a typical southern family...very nice and quite religious. That shrine to Alabama was incredible....and crazy.

Helene's family was cool. I think Aaron was a little uncomfortable at first, but he seemed to get along well with her brothers.

Gwens' family was nice, too. They seemed to really like Aaron. Her parents sounded like they had Chicago accents...which is probably blasphemous for me to say since they live in Buffalo. I couldn't help but think of the SNL skit with George Wendt & company and thinking of "Da Bears" when I heard her parents talk.

I still think Aaron likes Helene the most...but I'm sensing that she might actually be the next to go because she sort of puts up these walls when she's around him. I get the feeling that she's not totally comfortable with him yet, so that may hurt her chances. She needs to either tell him that she really likes him or do a better job of showing it if she wants to stay.

Personally, of the 3, I'd boot Gwen next but I don't think Aaron will boot her. She looks weird to me. Superficial? Yes. Sue me.

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Nice post Zeus. I agree, very easy episode to predict. I wonder if he didn't bring Angela along just to have an easy out at this juncture. Helene seems to be filling the role of Shannon from last season, I am starting to not dig her as much.

I wonder if he will pick Gwen or Brooke based on the idea that they do not crucify him for what he has done with the other women on their dates? I'm sure Helene will turn on the bitch switch about the overnight dates next show. I guess I'm digging Gwen the most right now, but none are bad.

BTW, I don't know if this made the board yet, but my wife just showed me an article on the last bachelor, Alex. He dumped whatshername right after Bachelor2 began to pursue (you guessed it) a career in acting. According to the article, they were never very close after the show and he did not want her to move out with him. Does it get more lame?

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