Hmm, I don't think Danielle has ever made another person in the house cry.

I still Roddy is the evil one.

Maybe Danielle in the final would be fun to watch....to see her go down Kelly style, when she thought she had done everything right, only to lose on live national television as her fellow housegeust reveal that they see through her charade and see her as the mean, evil DEVIL that she is.

Hehe, the same thing happened to Nicole last year. She figured everybody hated Will, but they all loved how he played the game. If Danielle would be surprised if she lost to Jason, then she's a complete idiot. She talks about going to the end with Jason, but I've never heard her say she would be comfortable with second place. I don't think anybody has a chance against Jason in the final 2, especially Dani.

Will played the game brilliantly last year.

His greatest trick was that he got in on a doomed alliance early, gave everyone enough rope to hang themselves, and rode it out. He got everyone on the "other" alliance to believe he was so hated that they kept him around as a spoiler for the final two.

Meanwhile the "other" alliance is stabbing their former members in the back right and left, so it pretty much insured no loyalty there.

I don't think they respected how Will played the game, as they voted against Nicole out of spite. And of course, Will got the "Chilltown" votes along with a few "other" votes.

Yup.
They better get Roddy out tonight or he will win.
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Will played the game very well, but I think people give him too much credit for the stupidity of others. Which, I'm sure, pleases Will to no end.

Will won the game because, in theory, people "admired" him for being an HONEST liar. That shows me how the average BB contestant is chosen to not be particularly bright...with a few exceptions. Even so, Will did a brilliant job just managing his lies. He wasn't as sharp as Roddy in picking apart past promises and using language to confuse other people. Will just played up being the snake and it worked for him. All that said, Nicole still had the game in her pocket. She was who I rooted for and even I knew she wasn't going to win after her last month. She had a total meltdown in there, something that hasn't happened yet this year. I still think that had she not went insane that she might have pulled it out.

Patman, Patman, Patman...how I totally disagree with you. But you provide the best spoilers so I don't want you angry with me.

I would prefer, in this kind of game, to be lied to directly. And although I don't have the live feeds nor a photographic memory, but I'd still be willing to bet my left testicle that Roddy has actually lied at least once straight to someone's face. Roddy's type of behavior of manipulating and patronizing people is just his way of being deceitful. So he makes promise to Lisa and keeps it. He also uses people and influences them by talking about things that he clearly knows are not true, so that he can sway their opinion. He did this with Jason when he somehow convinced Jason not to put him up. He'll pull out the charm and tell someone that their perception is skewed, but to believe the words coming out of his mouth. He knew what he was doing by charming his way with Marcellas. Marcellas was so intoxicated by Roddy at the hot-tub, that he would have said anything.

Roddy's way or just making a promise to one person and then going another way are about even in my opinion. And Amy is not a particulary bright person, I admit that. But neither are most of the BB's cast. Amy has not played a good game and she's lucky to be there. But, who knows what will happen? Lisa made a great turn around. Amy probably won't but she did do the right thing and Roddy has no moral high ground in that house. But you are right, I think most of the evicted houseguests will dislike Dani just because of her being in control so long. If she makes it to the final 2, they will either reward her for playing the best or punish her and pick the opposite person no matter whether they merit the win.

But like her or not, please stop acting like Danielle is truly referring to Roddy as the Devil or Evil. He's not a bad guy, he's just super good at what he's been doing and Dani's biggest threat. She is going to get a lot of sh*t for using that term, but she's almost always said it with a smile on her face and I know she doesn't dislike him.

But Marcellas uses "The Devil" like he means it, and Dani just eggs him on. Many of these houseguests have a truly black-white worldview (you're either for them, or against them, no middle ground at all). (And I'm not talking about race issues).

I wish they'd let the houseguests sing openly. In BB2, Will would always find the right song for the situation at hand, and it was hysterically funny. Will was half man, half amazing!

Will was also a nurturer (being a doctor helps in providing comfort when it was needed, like when Nicole had her breakdown towards the end). Will never challenged people to their face, he let a lot of stuff slide, and just told stories, and it was up to the houseguests to decide which ones were true and which ones were just entertaining. Will was very good at letting others blow up when they were on the chopping block. Kent basically hibernated when he was up against Will in his last week in the house. BB2 was a pretty phenomenal ride last summer, I think it was more entertaining than this season's crew just because of the contestants/personalities involved, not because of the game itself.

If Dani is so smart she will try to get rid of Jason as soon as possible, because against him she does not have a chance (or possibly against Lisa as well), but I really think if the rest of the houseguest were smart they would get rid of her as soon as possible...you think she would be driving them nuts by now! I think she is more overconfident than Roddy even.

Well, the vote is in:



And the new Hoh is:


I think the new HoH will nominate:

OMG! We have to wait a week for another episode and another twist. I love it when cool things happen on my b-day and Julie announced the finale will be on 9/25, my b-day. I guess that's why Amazing Race isn't starting till October this year.

As for this episode, the question I would have liked Julie to ask Roddy was how he felt about Amy. How did everybody like Roddy's parents talking about him? The best line is that he doesn't manipulate people. Also, Dani's fake pouting after Jason won was worse than Amy's rejoicing when Marcellas won last week.

Patman,



Anyone hear or know what Marcellus was cussing about?

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Well, the strategy was

The Hoh competition was

I don't know how slick she is... She did well in hiding her alliance with J, and in getting people to support her, BUT.....

She has bad-mouthed EVERY house guest during her vote. I mean REALLY bad mouthed them! These people who get voted out will see this and will vote for anyone else BUT her to win...

I think she is getting too full of herself... I would hate to see her win just because of this...

Last season, Wil was a snake right out in the open for everyone to see...

Dani is a snake that no one sees. She is biting people behind their backs, belittling them... I think that will come back to haunt her in the final 2, if she makes it that far...

Dani reminds me of comic book villians, the ones who have the hero on the ropes, and then for some reason spills their plan to the hero (thinking that the hero's a goner anyhow), and is thwarted by their boastfulness. Dani's a very vain person in her DR pronouncements. I hope it becomes her undoing.

If Jason makes the final, he's clearly unbeatable....although Lisa perhaps has an outside shot. Dani may have chose to ride it out with him, but he would beat her in the end. So that's my dream final matchup.....to see Dani and her fake boobage go down down in flames to Jason.

Regarding Will from BB2, I think one of his best qualities was that he never got all emotional like all the others. He always maintained a happy go lucky attitude. He's perhaps the only person that truly recognized it's a game and that it's foolish to get all worked up over who is stabbing you in the back and who isn't.

Actually, I think if Jason and Lisa are in the finals, I have a feeling that Lisa wins by a very close 4-3 vote, otherwise, Jason wins against anyone else.

I was thinking Dannielle threw the competition this week, so she can be around to win it next week, when it's more valuable. If she does, I see her nominating Jason, and him getting evicted, because the others have no chance against him as well, she could make them see that.

I would love to see Jason put up Danni, but I"m sure it'll be Marcelas and Amy as you guys guessed, and Marcellas getting the boot, because who's gonna vote for Amy to win it all? She's safe to keep around. Nobody would let her win because she was gone from the house so long.

This show is to fun, now to wait a week

Jason's will put up Marcellus and Amy?!? What, that's so shocking! No one could predict such a twist. The only reason there'll be no shows this week is because its almost a foregone conclusion what will happen.

Roddy's gone, so's my reason for watching. He showed himself to be a little smarter than Danni though, he said he was playing to the evicted houseguest as well, Danni hasn't been. In the DR rooms she's been trashtalking everyone.

So here's how it plays out, Amy out this week, Marcellus next week. No one's going to use POV, ever, since no one is willing to take a risk in the game. What's the point of playing a safe game? No one has ever won a game playing the safety!

Well, I knew Roddy was playing to all of the houseguests (in and out of the house). Danni is so dumb trying to show she's in "full" control of the house with her DR entries.

The reason there's no BB3 shows on Saturday and Wednesday is simply due to scheduling conflicts (sports draw more ratings on Saturday, and there is that 9/11 deal on Wednesday). It wasn't due to the house being a boring house now that Roddy is gone.

I also enjoyed watching the mental game that Roddy was playing with the houseguests, but now, it'll either be lots of singing or signing of "Kumbaya" or watching Amy get drunk some more. Yeech.

I disagree that the show will be boring now. I'd rather see a show with all basically decent people (which I think it will be now). Yes, Amy has numerous problems such as immaturity and drinking, Danielle tries way too hard and overplays everything and Jason is a total wimp based on his week as HOH.

There will be lots of conflict with decent but different personalities still clashing plenty and the fact that they still have to vote each other out.

I especially look forward to Marcellas getting back to his old hilarious, entertaining self. He's been so serious the last week. Unfortunately, I think (as you all do) that this is probably his last week.

The people I'd be most happy with winning now are Marcellas and Lisa.

I hope they boot Amy out first before Marcellus. It seems her actions make her too intolerable to even take to the finals.

That didn't stop Nicole from taking Will to the finals! Who could forget that doll of Nicole that Will made. That was mean, but hilarious.

Yeah, but Nicole had a weak spot when it came to Will's charm. Either that, or she was totally masochistic.

I don't see Amy working it like WIll. If she makes it to the finals it will be dumb luck on her part. I think she is far too self-conscious to play up the "Keep me around, no one likes me" angle. (Amy knows that people don't like her but she hates to admit it.)

I must admit I did a little dance when Roddy got the boot.

He looked COMPLETELY shocked IMHO.
HE thought he was going to win.
Hehehehhehehehehhe.
Bye Bye Teflon man!
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