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Venusian 04-30-02 02:21 PM

Simpsons ending soon???
 
Groening thinks so

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp..._simpsons_dc_2

grunter 04-30-02 02:23 PM

Nah. It's on Fox. We've got at least another 8 seasons.

Apocrypha 04-30-02 02:31 PM

the simpsons is fox
w/ futurama and family guy gone if the simpsons left as well I could stop watching Fox altogether.

Groucho 04-30-02 02:33 PM

Fox executives would sacrifice their first-borns just to squeeze one more season out of "The Simpsons." Groening could use this as a bargaining chip to keep "Futurama" alive.

The Antipodean 04-30-02 02:35 PM

Didn't they sign a deal a year or so ago to keep it on through season 15? That might be a good spot to wind it up. I agree it isn't as "fresh" as it used to be but it's still better than 90% of what else is on the air -- last weekend's "Homer Hulk" episode was a great one, I thought. What season is this, 12 or 13? I definitely would say they're in the last 3-4 seasons right now... Don't want to pull an "X-Files" or "Mad About You" and have the show overstay its shelf life and nobody cares when it ends.

sexy_overlord 04-30-02 02:47 PM

Well, at least we still have Andy Richter and Greg the Bunny.... if enough petitions and threatening letters are sent to FOX.

calhoun07 04-30-02 03:36 PM

As far as I am concerned, this show ended after season 10. Season 11 had a few good episodes, but everything since then has been painfully bad. And it's not as good as 90% of everything else on TV. That is unless you're just totally brainwashed by the Fox media machine and still believe the hype.

Gdrlv 04-30-02 03:46 PM


Originally posted by Sierra Disc
Didn't they sign a deal a year or so ago to keep it on through season 15?
I thought it was ending after season 15 as well.

qbert 04-30-02 03:48 PM

:(

sad to see it go
the simpsons are like pizza ... even when it's bad it's still pretty good ;)

here's another link - http://money.cnn.com/2002/04/30/news/simpsons/index.htm

Venusian 04-30-02 05:11 PM


Originally posted by calhoun07
. And it's not as good as 90% of everything else on TV.
you gotta be kidding me. Name me 5 shows on ABC that are better than The Simpsons

Venusian 04-30-02 05:12 PM


Originally posted by qbert

here's another link - http://money.cnn.com/2002/04/30/news/simpsons/index.htm

from that article:

Groening said Fox "will wring every last penny out of the show before they call it a day," and meanwhile, the network has axed "Futurama."


NOOOOOOOOOOOO!

i thought they didnt order new shows so they could air ones already made. didnt know it was axed!

calhoun07 04-30-02 07:55 PM


Originally posted by Venusian


you gotta be kidding me. Name me 5 shows on ABC that are better than The Simpsons

Well....I wasn't aware that everything on TV existed on ABC.

But since you asked, here is what is better that runs up against Simpsons on Sunday night...(depending where you live, of course, since some of these are not on network TV but on local channels)

Touched by an Angel
The Education of Max Bickford
Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's The Lost World
Nature
Weakest Link
Doc
The TV Guide Channel
The Sopranos
Andromeda
Emeril Live
Family Feud
Mommy Chic
The Suze Orman Show
National Geographic Explorer
War Stories With Oliver North
Tutankhamun: Curse of the Boy King
Fame for 15
Nero Wolfe
Rock 'n' Moms
Before & After
Father Knows Best
The Power of Play
Mom's Got a Date With a Vampire
The Brothers Garcia
Toon Heads
The Official Star Wars Fan Film Awards (which will be up against the Simpsons on May 15th and will more than likely get my attention that night)
Behind the Music
Andy Dick Show (and if the Osbournes went up against the Simpsons that would be even better)
Inside the Actors Studio
Saturday Night Live
The E! True Hollywood Story
Lo Que Se Vio y No Se Vio de Amigas y Rivales
The Best of Mother Angelica Live
Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman

Neush 04-30-02 08:34 PM


Originally posted by calhoun07


Well....I wasn't aware that everything on TV existed on ABC.

But since you asked, here is what is better that runs up against Simpsons on Sunday night...(depending where you live, of course, since some of these are not on network TV but on local channels)

Touched by an Angel
The Education of Max Bickford
Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's The Lost World
Nature
Weakest Link
Doc
The TV Guide Channel
The Sopranos
Andromeda
Emeril Live
Family Feud
Mommy Chic
The Suze Orman Show
National Geographic Explorer
War Stories With Oliver North
Tutankhamun: Curse of the Boy King
Fame for 15
Nero Wolfe
Rock 'n' Moms
Before & After
Father Knows Best
The Power of Play
Mom's Got a Date With a Vampire
The Brothers Garcia
Toon Heads
The Official Star Wars Fan Film Awards (which will be up against the Simpsons on May 15th and will more than likely get my attention that night)
Behind the Music
Andy Dick Show (and if the Osbournes went up against the Simpsons that would be even better)
Inside the Actors Studio
Saturday Night Live
The E! True Hollywood Story
Lo Que Se Vio y No Se Vio de Amigas y Rivales
The Best of Mother Angelica Live
Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman

TOUCHED BY AN ANGEL & DOC!?!, HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Ok, what I meant to say was HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Funniest post ever!

Venusian 04-30-02 08:40 PM


Originally posted by calhoun07


Well....I wasn't aware that everything on TV existed on ABC.

just using ABC as an example. since there are 4 networks and then cable we can say abc is probably about 20% or maybe a little less of whats on tv. but anyway, seeing your list i'm assuming you're here to thread crap since you put the tv guide channel on there

calhoun07 04-30-02 09:03 PM

Actually, I was trying to make a point that anything is better than the current run on the Simpsons. ANYTHING.

Venusian 04-30-02 09:06 PM


Originally posted by calhoun07
Actually, I was trying to make a point that anything is better than the current run on the Simpsons. ANYTHING.
well i guess like they say if you dont like it dont watch. there are many of us who still enjoy the show and we'll keep on watching

calhoun07 04-30-02 09:15 PM

Well....I don't watch it. I try to catch an episode from time to time, and even tuned in for the Stan Lee episode. I find a few good chuckles but it's just not the same. A few good chuckles does not equal a good show. In fact, if The Simpsons had started out with it's early seasons this bad, I doubt it would have the support it does now.

And I didn't mean to step on any toes. I didn't gather from the main post on this thread that this thread was intended only for praise. I had no idea a contradictory opinion would be so unwelcome.

calhoun07 04-30-02 09:17 PM


Originally posted by calhoun07
Well....I don't watch it. I try to catch an episode from time to time (because I want the show to be good. I really do. Even if I don't care for the last couple seasons, over all it's still deserving of being listed as one of the best shows of all time), and even tuned in for the Stan Lee episode. I find a few good chuckles but it's just not the same. A few good chuckles does not equal a good show. In fact, if The Simpsons had started out with it's early seasons this bad, I doubt it would have the support it does now.

And I didn't mean to step on any toes. I didn't gather from the main post on this thread that this thread was intended only for praise. I had no idea a contradictory opinion would be so unwelcome.


Venusian 04-30-02 09:27 PM


Originally posted by calhoun07
Well....I don't watch it. I try to catch an episode from time to time, and even tuned in for the Stan Lee episode. I find a few good chuckles but it's just not the same. A few good chuckles does not equal a good show. In fact, if The Simpsons had started out with it's early seasons this bad, I doubt it would have the support it does now.

And I didn't mean to step on any toes. I didn't gather from the main post on this thread that this thread was intended only for praise. I had no idea a contradictory opinion would be so unwelcome.

not unwelcome but definitely unpopular. you admit that the show gave you a few chuckles, how can that be worse than weakest link or the tv guide channel?

calhoun07 04-30-02 09:30 PM

I unwillingly had to see an episode of the Golden Girls the other day and also got a few chuckles from it. That doesn't mean it's better than 90% of what's out there. I could say the same for a lot of other TV shows and even movies. It's like people saying Phantom Menace was good because it had a cool pod race scene. Please. That movie was lame in spite of the pod race scene.

As for unpopular...well, maybe here, but there are other message boards where the consensus I share is not in the minority. There are more than a few long time fans giving up on this show.

Jason 04-30-02 09:56 PM


Originally posted by calhoun07
But since you asked, here is what is better that runs up against Simpsons on Sunday night...(depending where you live, of course, since some of these are not on network TV but on local channels)


-snip-

The Best of Mother Angelica Live

You have got to be sh*tting me.

calhoun07 04-30-02 10:02 PM


Originally posted by Jason


You have got to be sh*tting me.

Oops, that's what happens when you just cut and paste from a TV listing site! ;)

madcougar 04-30-02 10:56 PM


Originally posted by calhoun07
As far as I am concerned, this show ended after season 10. Season 11 had a few good episodes, but everything since then has been painfully bad. And it's not as good as 90% of everything else on TV. That is unless you're just totally brainwashed by the Fox media machine and still believe the hype.
D'oh! That's why I thought that "Who Want's to Marry a Millionaire" was soooo good! The Fox media machine! Lord knows that someone has to stop the Fox media machine! Hell, the way they run the board come ratings time. Why I was just reading that the Simpsons was the highest rated show on Fox last week....

Wait a minute! You're right! The Fox media machine is doing it!
Someone please stop them so that I can switch channels to watch better fare such as Touched By An Angel or Weakest Link! The Fox Media Machine has meeeeeee!

In case you didn't realize it, I was being sarcastic!

GuessWho 04-30-02 11:08 PM

This is step 1...

Step 2 is getting the syndicators to stop distribution

:D

Jackskeleton 05-01-02 02:44 AM

The simpsons have atleast a few more seasons in them. they still have an average amount of Good episodes. I'm happy with them. as for you folks who say its crap now... eh. couldn't care less on how others see the show. I love it. :)

KenB75 05-01-02 06:55 AM

i hear it wasnt cancel but the writer of the show says it is time to stop making the show as for he is running outta ideas for new shows. an dwnats to leave while the show si still strong. instead of when it goes bad. also i heard it is ending round the time season 2 comes out on dvd. that might explain why it was delayed to aug.... just rumors i hear...so not sure just what i heard

Red Dog 05-01-02 09:41 AM


Originally posted by calhoun07
As far as I am concerned, this show ended after season 10. Season 11 had a few good episodes, but everything since then has been painfully bad. And it's not as good as 90% of everything else on TV. That is unless you're just totally brainwashed by the Fox media machine and still believe the hype.

I feel the same way. Every show goes downhill at some point. I already know that I won't buy any season DVD sets after Season 8. There were a few good episodes sprinkled in here and there in the subsequent seasons, but after season 10, every episode I watched, I hardly laughed. I watched the cartoon book episode last week and could not believe this was the same show as it was the early-mid 90s.

Deftones 05-01-02 10:19 AM

as someone said above, i believe.

even at it's worst, The Simpsons, is still better than pretty much everything on TV. I hope it keeps on going, as it is my favorite television show, but we all know it can't last forever.

rfduncan 05-01-02 10:20 AM


Originally posted by madcougar
In case you didn't realize it, I was being sarcastic!
[Marge Simpson voice]Well DUH![/Marge Simpson voice]

While it admittedly isn't what it used to be, I still plop myself down to it every Sunday night in the hopes that an episode like last weeks is on. "The Angry Dad" cartoons? COME ON! Funny stuff. My particular favorite lines:

Principal Skinner: "And now the father of the kid that hangs out with Bart Simpson."

Nelson: "Ah! Amuse juste!"

Krusty: "This cartoon could kill us! (into phone)Quick, book that act that likes to bite me in the crotch!"
Secretary: "You mean, Susan Anton?"
Krusty: "No! That lemur!"

Bart: "What's 520 million times zero? And DON'T say ZERO!" :lol:

I wouldn't mind them cancelling it as long as they PROMISE to do at least two specials a year - Tree House of Horrors and Christmas episodes. They should have no problem cranking out two high quality episodes a year.

ChrisHicks 05-01-02 10:23 AM

For a show that nobody seems to like anymore it sure as hell pulls in great ratings. I see no problem with the show in the fact that it has been on for 13 seasons and is still going strong. Not many other shows can claim that.

icondude 05-01-02 10:26 AM

Clearly, they have run out of ideas. I would like to see them producing only a few new shows a year with the few good ideas that they come up with though.

Christo 05-01-02 01:56 PM

Actually, I came away from that CNN article with the impression that Groening is playing hardball with Fox over Futurama.

calhoun07 05-01-02 03:04 PM


Originally posted by ChrisHicks
For a show that nobody seems to like anymore it sure as hell pulls in great ratings. I see no problem with the show in the fact that it has been on for 13 seasons and is still going strong. Not many other shows can claim that.
Just because it has die hard fans that refuse to give up on the show does not mean the past few seasons have been good. Heck, even the creators of the show seem to be feeling the strain of keeping this thing going. I kept on turning to the show for a while even after I felt the quality had waned because I also wanted the show to get better, and I felt they were just in a slump there for a while. But they have been in a slump for the past couple years, and where in the past they had a bad show or two a season, it's more like now we get a good episode or two each season.

I am glad this show still has it's followers. I have been known to stick with shows that lost fans when the quality waned or things were changed. I stuck with Night Court to the very end, even tho fans despised the changes in Dan's character and when Harry and Christine got together. So I've been the one who has stuck with shows when other fans were wondering why I did, so I can appreciate the Simpsons fans who are sticking to it. All the power to you, but I would rather see Futurama continue on than to see Simpsons go on, and when Futurama gets cancelled and the Simpsons continues to deterorate and rot away, that tells me something is wrong.

I once looked forward to the idea of a Simpsons feature film with great delight, but now the prospect scares me. I hope we didn't see them exhaust all their good material on the show and I hope the movie (when and if it comes out) redeems these weaker seasons.

Feneant 05-01-02 03:14 PM

Can you honestly tell me that reality shows are better than the Simpsons?

It goes by taste, I wouldn't watch survivor if you held a knife to my throat, I would gladly let myself be killed before watching a reality show.

If Simpsons sucks so much, why can I catch it about 5 times a day and a total of about 45 times or more during the week

Only thing it will do if Simpsons is cancelled is another reason to not get cable.

calhoun07 05-01-02 03:18 PM


If Simpsons sucks so much, why can I catch it about 5 times a day and a total of about 45 times or more during the week
To be fair, the syndicated episodes are mainly from when the show was GOOD and they deserve to be seen multiple times per week. Hell, they deserve to be seen multiple times PER DAY.

Red Dog 05-01-02 03:20 PM


Originally posted by Feneant
Can you honestly tell me that reality shows are better than the Simpsons?

It goes by taste, I wouldn't watch survivor if you held a knife to my throat, I would gladly let myself be killed before watching a reality show.

If Simpsons sucks so much, why can I catch it about 5 times a day and a total of about 45 times or more during the week

Only thing it will do if Simpsons is cancelled is another reason to not get cable.


Better than Simpsons circa 1990-1998. Absolutely not.

Better than Simpsons today? Some of them definitely are, at least to me.

I could watch Simpsons episodes until the cows come home, but only if they are Season 8 and prior (with a few of the newer ones sprinkled in - very few though). I've seen each of those episodes at least 10 times over. I record the syndicated Simpsons everyday. If they are classic ones, I love watching them. If they are newer ones, I just delete them.

calhoun07 05-01-02 03:34 PM

Give me the Osbournes over any current run of the Simpsons any day. And that is an example of a reality show that is actually better.

vaporware 05-01-02 03:50 PM

The Simpsons are still better than 75% of the programming available on the major networks.

Red Dog 05-01-02 03:57 PM


Originally posted by vapoRware
The Simpsons are still better than 75% of the programming available on the major networks.

Maybe that is true, but count out the number of prime-time hours on the 4 major networks. How much do you watch? That is 81 hours of prime time programming on the major networks. I watch 13 hours (so basically 1/6) of programming/week on the 4 major networks (and that includes overlapping shows that I tape). To me, the rest (including, sadly The Simpson presently) is not that entertaining.

calhoun07 05-01-02 04:36 PM

I think it's safe to say that only about 20% of what is on TV at any given time is actually good. So I can see how people could bump even the lamest episode of the Simpsons into that good category, but IMO, there is still 19.99% of stuff still more entertaining than the Simpsons.


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