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Old 02-17-02, 03:38 PM
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Enterprise continuity

time to discuss Enterprise continuity, both where it keeps continuity and where it fails

Dr. Phlox's rubber gloves: in "A Matter of Time" Dr. Crusher mentions no quarantine fields in the 22nd century and that they used gloves
no phasers: Worf mentions no phasers in the same episode, the original TOS pilot also lacked phasers
now the phase pistols are kind of a problem. although they aren't quite phasers, they seem more advanced than the laser pistols of the original pilot

Romulans: we can see them, the Enterprise crew can't. So far it hasn't been brought up, but it undoubtedly will

Klingons: 1st contact was supposed to lead to a horrible war. So far it's kind of an uneasy coexistance. The klingons aren't invading but they aren't buddies either
4 days to Kronos at less than warp 5. Unrealistic. The klingons would have made us their bitches by now

the Federation isn't established until 2161, so unless they a) go 10 seasons, or b) have a season of tv cover more than 1 year of fictional time we can't see the founding of it
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They might be hedging their bets, in that even if the show doesn't run 10 years, they could use whatever is set up in the show's 5+ seasons to shoot a pretty cool feature film or TV miniseries or something...whereas if they set it 5 years from the founding of the Federation, all of a sudden in season 5 or 6 all kinds of issues start to arise...
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I was reading and the war with the Romulans starts in 2156 (their 6th season). it leads to the creation of the neutral zone.
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I'm still waiting for the day the Klingons have a collective species day of plastic surgery to look like the Klingons in the original series. I really, really, really want to know why Worf refused to talk about the change. What prompted such a proud warrior race to resemble weak and puny humans?
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Originally posted by mllefoo
I really, really, really want to know why Worf refused to talk about the change.
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Originally posted by mllefoo
I'm still waiting for the day the Klingons have a collective species day of plastic surgery to look like the Klingons in the original series. I really, really, really want to know why Worf refused to talk about the change. What prompted such a proud warrior race to resemble weak and puny humans?
I remember reading an interview with Rick Berman about this in TV Guide. He basically said that Enterprise was going to cheat a little here and there and mentioned the Klingon's appearance specifically. As I recall he said there probably wouldn't be any explaination for the difference in appearence.
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Originally posted by dave955
They might be hedging their bets, in that even if the show doesn't run 10 years, they could use whatever is set up in the show's 5+ seasons to shoot a pretty cool feature film or TV miniseries or something...whereas if they set it 5 years from the founding of the Federation, all of a sudden in season 5 or 6 all kinds of issues start to arise...
Other than TOS, all Star Trek shows are seven seasons long.
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You also have to remember the time travel element. Remember, Enterprise wouldn't have launched when it did if it weren't from intervention from the future.

Enterprise would have been blown up in the "Cold Front" episode if it weren't for intervention from the future.

For all we know, none of the events of Enterprise happened in the reality of TOS, TNG, DS9, and VOY.

Yeah, yeah, it messes with the mind. Just remember that continuity could be blown out the door and all of it could be attributed to the temporal cold war.
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for all we know those events happened in the TOS, TNG, DS9 and VOY's pasts too

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You also have to remember the time travel element. Remember, Enterprise wouldn't have launched when it did if it weren't from intervention from the future.

Enterprise would have been blown up in the "Cold Front" episode if it weren't for intervention from the future.

For all we know, none of the events of Enterprise happened in the reality of TOS, TNG, DS9, and VOY.

Yeah, yeah, it messes with the mind. Just remember that continuity could be blown out the door and all of it could be attributed to the temporal cold war.
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OK simpliest we have Star Trek and then we have B&B Star Trek.

The second don't know jack with what happened with the first.

Spoiler:
the ferengi are due to in an upcoming episode
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Originally posted by mikehunt
for all we know those events happened in the TOS, TNG, DS9 and VOY's pasts too


Hmmmm.

Maybe there's a reason why the new show isn't called Star Trek: Enterprise......?

Have we deviated to a parallel universe?
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Originally posted by strife
Spoiler:
the ferengi are due to in an upcoming episode
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Spoiler:
The Farengi were mentioned in the episode with the sick pre-warp planet. The Farengi in the upcoming episode will be, in a sense, "pirates". The crew of the Enterprise will see them, but will not know what race they come from. So the crew has heard of the Farengi, has seen the Farengi, but the connection isn't made until the first episode of TNG.
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which should be acceptable
Picard had a run in with the feringi while he was captain of the stargazer, but I don't think he realized who it was

Originally posted by Booth


Spoiler:
The Farengi were mentioned in the episode with the sick pre-warp planet. The Farengi in the upcoming episode will be, in a sense, "pirates". The crew of the Enterprise will see them, but will not know what race they come from. So the crew has heard of the Farengi, has seen the Farengi, but the connection isn't made until the first episode of TNG.
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Maybe B&B will just have Archer time travel in the last episode to "un-do" everything that was done in the show.

Originally posted by MrN



Hmmmm.

Maybe there's a reason why the new show isn't called Star Trek: Enterprise......?

Have we deviated to a parallel universe?
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Originally posted by JohnPhoenix
Maybe B&B will just have Archer time travel in the last episode to "un-do" everything that was done in the show.
I think that on the last episode, Bobby Ewing will come out of the shower and prove that it was all Bob Newhart's dream.
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what's Patrick Duffy been up to lately?

Originally posted by Numanoid


I think that on the last episode, Bobby Ewing will come out of the shower and prove that it was all Bob Newhart's dream.

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