Saving Private Ryan on ABC 11/11/01
11-12-01 | 01:53 AM
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Wait, wasnt there a HDTV logo at the begining? I believe only those with HDTV widescreen sets get to see the widescren version. Liek CBS's Raymond. Us regular people see the normal picture, but it is also being broadcast in Widescreen for HDTV. (Seen this at Best Buy on their HDTV sets) mostly CBS shows. Thats just what i think.
11-12-01 | 07:51 AM
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While I applaud ABC's decision to air SPR in its entirety, I have to wonder why only this and SL have been deemed worthy of such treatment. Are we to believe that only these films have such strong messages about war or the human condition that only they should be viewed untouched by the network editor's hands? Why not APOCALYPSE NOW? What about THE ENGLISH PATIENT? Are only war films worth the trouble? Would something like TRAFFIC or REQUIEM FOR A DREAM eventually be considered valuable enough to be seen without cuts?
Don't get me wrong. I'm glad they chose to do this and I'd like to see it done more often, but why is it that only Spielberg's films or films about WWII are considered insightful and sensitive enough to be shown with this consideration these days?
Don't get me wrong. I'm glad they chose to do this and I'd like to see it done more often, but why is it that only Spielberg's films or films about WWII are considered insightful and sensitive enough to be shown with this consideration these days?
11-12-01 | 06:24 PM
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Originally posted by Caoimhin
While I applaud ABC's decision to air SPR in its entirety, I have to wonder why only this and SL have been deemed worthy of such treatment. Are we to believe that only these films have such strong messages about war or the human condition that only they should be viewed untouched by the network editor's hands? Why not APOCALYPSE NOW? What about THE ENGLISH PATIENT? Are only war films worth the trouble? Would something like TRAFFIC or REQUIEM FOR A DREAM eventually be considered valuable enough to be seen without cuts?
Don't get me wrong. I'm glad they chose to do this and I'd like to see it done more often, but why is it that only Spielberg's films or films about WWII are considered insightful and sensitive enough to be shown with this consideration these days?
While I applaud ABC's decision to air SPR in its entirety, I have to wonder why only this and SL have been deemed worthy of such treatment. Are we to believe that only these films have such strong messages about war or the human condition that only they should be viewed untouched by the network editor's hands? Why not APOCALYPSE NOW? What about THE ENGLISH PATIENT? Are only war films worth the trouble? Would something like TRAFFIC or REQUIEM FOR A DREAM eventually be considered valuable enough to be seen without cuts?
Don't get me wrong. I'm glad they chose to do this and I'd like to see it done more often, but why is it that only Spielberg's films or films about WWII are considered insightful and sensitive enough to be shown with this consideration these days?
I agree and I'll add....
It's a scam the networks have been running to push the limits and slowly numb people to swearing and intense violence on regular tv.
Speilberg is considered a god in the industry so they can pass his stuff off as "IMPORTANT ART" that way they can claim editing will ruin it.
Next they'll be showing "BOOGIE NIGHTS" un-cut with full frontal shots.....
Pretty soon you'll only be able to let your kids watch VHS tapes of kids shows because regular tv woll be to adult. Oh well.
11-12-01 | 07:18 PM
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Nah, it's none of those things. It's because Spielberg refuses to allow certain movies of his to be shown "cut". So the tv newtworks have a choice: huge ratings or nada. Ratings win out every time. If every studio head took this same stand I guarantee that every film would be shown the same way.
As far as widescreen went, there was a very nice HDTV broadcast 720p 1.85 OAR with DD 5.1. Too bad DTS isn't part of the HDTV spec. Ah well, it looked great but I'd still rather watch the DVD so I don't have to put up with the commercials.
As far as widescreen went, there was a very nice HDTV broadcast 720p 1.85 OAR with DD 5.1. Too bad DTS isn't part of the HDTV spec. Ah well, it looked great but I'd still rather watch the DVD so I don't have to put up with the commercials.
11-12-01 | 10:08 PM
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I sent a letter in, and I got a nice form reply back that totally ignored what I wrote:
Thank you for your inquiry about the film, "Saving Private Ryan."
In conjunction with the film's director, Steven Spielberg, ABC
broadcast the movie in its original format on Veterans Day, November 11.
While our telecast was accompanied by strict viewer advisories, we realize
that we asked our audience, especially parents, to make a decision that
requires a great deal of thought and debate. With this film, Mr. Spielberg
was committed to showing the true horrors of war alongside its moments of
victory and heroism. With this telecast, we were committed to that same
goal.
In conjunction with the film's director, Steven Spielberg, ABC
broadcast the movie in its original format on Veterans Day, November 11.
While our telecast was accompanied by strict viewer advisories, we realize
that we asked our audience, especially parents, to make a decision that
requires a great deal of thought and debate. With this film, Mr. Spielberg
was committed to showing the true horrors of war alongside its moments of
victory and heroism. With this telecast, we were committed to that same
goal.
11-12-01 | 10:30 PM
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I find it ironic that a movie anyone under 18 would have been made to show an id before they could buy a ticket can now be turned on by anyone, any age.
It's a scam the networks have been running to push the limits and slowly numb people to swearing and intense violence on regular tv.
Speilberg is considered a god in the industry so they can pass his stuff off as "IMPORTANT ART" that way they can claim editing will ruin it.
Next they'll be showing "BOOGIE NIGHTS" un-cut with full frontal shots.....
Pretty soon you'll only be able to let your kids watch VHS tapes of kids shows because regular tv woll be to adult. Oh well.
Speilberg is considered a god in the industry so they can pass his stuff off as "IMPORTANT ART" that way they can claim editing will ruin it.
Next they'll be showing "BOOGIE NIGHTS" un-cut with full frontal shots.....
Pretty soon you'll only be able to let your kids watch VHS tapes of kids shows because regular tv woll be to adult. Oh well.
Movies ARE important art. If you don't like parts of it, you DON'T WATCH IT. It shouldn't be edited because some people might be lazy and not find out what their kids are watching.
Now, if violence on the level of Saving Private Ryan was shown on saturday mornings, then I'd have a problem. Certain things should be avoided to keep things easy.
As for the nudity in Boogie Nights, as I find that was porn related, which leads into all sorts of things, and the darker side of sex. Which I wouldn't want my kids to see. Normal nudity I wouldn't have a problem with though... my kids would have those body parts (or develop them later on) so I don't understand why they can't be seen.
11-13-01 | 01:14 AM
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Originally posted by BizRodian
As a parent you should monitor what your kids watch. It's not the job of the film industry.
Movies ARE important art. If you don't like parts of it, you DON'T WATCH IT. It shouldn't be edited because some people might be lazy and not find out what their kids are watching.
As a parent you should monitor what your kids watch. It's not the job of the film industry.
Movies ARE important art. If you don't like parts of it, you DON'T WATCH IT. It shouldn't be edited because some people might be lazy and not find out what their kids are watching.
Of course it'snot the job of the industry. Art is in the eye of the beholder. Movies are NOT so sacred.
If YOU can't take an edited film then DON'T watch them on Broadcast tv. The world doesn't revolve around you and your OPINIONS any more than they do mine or any other member on this board.
11-13-01 | 02:43 PM
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Of course it'snot the job of the industry. Art is in the eye of the beholder. Movies are NOT so sacred.
If YOU can't take an edited film then DON'T watch them on Broadcast tv.
The world doesn't revolve around you and your OPINIONS any more than they do mine or any other member on this board.
