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Old 10-04-01 | 08:02 AM
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D'oh! I forgot about Robert April.

BTW das, the boytoy commented on your vast knowledge being impressive. Then he proceeded to rag on Buffy!
Old 10-04-01 | 08:12 AM
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Originally posted by elektra
D'oh! I forgot about Robert April.

BTW das, the boytoy commented on your vast knowledge being impressive. Then he proceeded to rag on Buffy!
One day he'll understand. Does he just not watch Buffy, or does he watch it and not like it? If the former, there's hope for him yet. If the latter, you may need to trade him in for another model.

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Old 10-04-01 | 08:46 AM
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He's watched a bit of it, I believe, but not enough to really judge. He just thinks the premise is stupid. But loves to watch world's most moronic police chases. Yuck! I've threatened to upgrade him.
Old 10-04-01 | 09:38 AM
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I don't know why everyone is comparing Harry Kim to Hoshii. I mean they are both asian and stuff. But cmon. Harry was the one who wanted to go home as bad as anyone else on Vger. But Hoshii just did not want to adapt to anything.

You have to remember that Harry wanted no more than anything to see his family. SO would I. He did not sign up to explore the Gamma Quadrant. He wanted to stay and explore the Alpha Quadrant.

Hoshii is just a sniffling baby. She is used to being in control and she has no control over anything. She is so reactive instead of proactive. That is what they were trying to relate to the slug reference.

As for Dr. Phlox he is awesome. Cmon feeding Tripp those potatoes. Yes he is more overly excited for a Cardassian but you have to remember that Cardassians just are plain crude. Except for that tailor one on DS9.

The only I am worrying about is the Tactial officer, Lt. Reed he is a little too gung ho and he is going to end up getting someone hurt. He is absent minded. Quick fused trying to blow up everything, kind of like a Klingon. Stereotypical Military mind.

The one I can relate to Is Ensign Travis.
Old 10-04-01 | 10:28 AM
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Just finished the episode... Not perfect, but pretty darn good. I actually have hope for this show.
Old 10-04-01 | 10:29 AM
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[SPOILERS, I guess]
I had this feeling of dread at the beginning of this episode. The title wasn’t “The Naked Before”, but I was still waiting for someone to start rubbing imagined goop off their hands and acting weird…

Am I the only one who thinks Archer shoulda slapped the cr@p outa Hoshi? I mean, that’s the classic cinema response to her type of hysteria. (OK, admittedly, it’s usually used in comedy, but still…) Is falling apart under stress going to be her character flaw? If so, the crew should eventually line up a la Airplane. Or we could feed her to the doctor’s bat.

Originally posted by huzefa
Isn’t there a freakin manual they can use?
Yah, but it’s in Vulcan, and it’s locked up in T’Pol’s quarters under her frilly panties.

If everybody else has shields and tractor beams, etc. it’s not too surprising, remembering that “we” are still infants in space.

Originally posted by MrN
Looks like the Enterprise will be outclassed most of the time in this show and they'll have to use their wits to get them out of trouble.
Hopefully this will be the underlying theme of the show.

Reserving judgment on the doctor. (das, Richard Dreyfuss??)

Vulcan’s lips are too pouty.

Not much of a music track, thankfully.

Archer doing a soliloquy (several pages of dialogue) to his personal log is a cheat, IMHO. Thank goodness they didn’t have him give that speech to the dog, but at first I thought he was talking to the dog. (Hmmm. I think that just might have worked better. Hmmm. [Wizdar rubbing his chin like the kid in the Dell commercials.])

On a positive note, for those who complain that we complain too much, has anyone considered that Enterprise has to reinvent itself? The Star Trek Universe was already established for the shows that followed, and there wasn’t the need to rehash things like warp drives or transporters. If the writers can resist the temptation to rush into the development of technology, I think the show will continue to be a fresh, new look at Roddenberry’s creation. The idea of the crew getting “cabin fever” was wonderful.

Spoiler:
Torpedo wanders about, then turns and heads directly toward the Enterprise.
Archer/Becket: “Ho, boy!”

“I crack myself up.”






Originally posted by elektra
… the boytoy commented on your vast knowledge being impressive…
Did he use the word, “Dork”?



Bah!


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Old 10-04-01 | 10:44 AM
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We were having a discussion here at work, do you think they will meet up with the Borg?

I mean Kirk never did and Capt Picard acted like he has never seen this species before so.....

But in First Contact they said they were Borg of that time period.
The only thing I can think of is since in First Contact they kind messed around with history, I guess they could meet up with the Borg.
Old 10-04-01 | 10:54 AM
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If the ratings suck, then yes. Otherwise, they're still in the Delta quadrent and IRRC not aware of humans at this point.
Old 10-04-01 | 10:56 AM
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Wizdar - um no, he didn't use Dork. He's somewhat knowledgabel himself.

I disagree with your signature. No Trek is always better than bad Trek, to me. That's why I stopped watching Voyager and never missed it.
Old 10-04-01 | 10:56 AM
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I'm really getting interested in this series. I thought the episode was generally great.

I agree about the Doctor being an interesting 'alien' aboard the Enterprise. I think be brings an interesting perspective to the show.

Spoiler:
But for the slug thing. So is it going to be a future episode when they come by that planet again and find that that slug ruined the local ecology and took over the planet?
For a Star Trek episode, you think they would have been more careful about that, especially in our environmentally conscious (sort of) society.
Old 10-04-01 | 11:13 AM
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Originally posted by elektra
I disagree with your signature. No Trek is always better than bad Trek, to me. That's why I stopped watching Voyager and never missed it.
Totally understand that point of view. I'm just a lot more forgiving re sci-fi than a lot of folks. But what can you expect from a guy with Dinosaurus! in his DVD collection...

Old 10-04-01 | 11:35 AM
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Originally posted by thejammy
We were having a discussion here at work, do you think they will meet up with the Borg?

I mean Kirk never did and Capt Picard acted like he has never seen this species before so.....

But in First Contact they said they were Borg of that time period.
The only thing I can think of is since in First Contact they kind messed around with history, I guess they could meet up with the Borg.
Borg of this time period are unaware of humans, as mentioned before.

Also, humans are unaware of the Borg and even the Romulans for that matter. First Contact with Romulans happened with Kirk and co. I guess thats why they had to invent the 'Caliban' or whatever they're called...
Old 10-04-01 | 11:39 AM
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Originally posted by Wizdar
Reserving judgment on the doctor. (das, Richard Dreyfuss??)
Trust me on this. Watch it again. Then watch Darrell Hammond's Richard Dreyfuss impersonation during the Star Wars auditions on SNL. Dead ringer

Bah!
My thoughts exactly!

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Old 10-04-01 | 11:43 AM
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Originally posted by Rascal
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But for the slug thing. So is it going to be a future episode when they come by that planet again and find that that slug ruined the local ecology and took over the planet?
THIS is Ceti Alph Five!!!

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Old 10-04-01 | 11:50 AM
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This was a good episode too.. I thought Hoshi was great, I like that she's not your typical soldier type. She's scared of everything and more of a normal human being. If you were just a normal civilian and got talked into coming on a battleship in the middle of WW2 you'd be jumpy too In the other treks all the people just seem like carbon copies of each other more or less (At least thats the idea I got being a non trek fan and only watching shows every so often...), in this show, people seem more "human".

The vulcan chick.. she bugs me but if we have more T&A sceenes with her like the first episode, she'll be fine

And I also like how they don't use transporters. Always thought they were kinda lame.. here it's like they have the technology but they're all scared to use it, like they'll turn out like Jeff Goldblum in the fly

Already this show is shaping up to be a darker version of star trek, and I think that's what I like about it all around. I hope it stays this way and we get to see more action instead of "Lets be happy and make every other episode be based on some social issue that no one cares about". I wanna see explosions and laser gun fights where people get limbs blown off
Old 10-04-01 | 11:55 AM
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Originally posted by das Monkey
Trust me on this. Watch it again. Then watch Darrell Hammond's Richard Dreyfuss impersonation during the Star Wars auditions on SNL. Dead ringer
I'll have to trust you on that one -- SNL is WAY past my bedtime.

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Old 10-04-01 | 12:16 PM
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Has the Prime Directive been established, or do you think that the slug (becoming a huge slug causing ecological havoc) will lead to the creation of the Prime Directive?
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Has the Prime Directive been established, or do you think that the slug (becoming a huge slug causing ecological havoc) will lead to the creation of the Prime Directive?

I assume that the Prime Directive does not come into effect until the formation of the UFP.
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Too early to tell, on the Prime Directive, I think. My guess is that it doesn't exist yet, at least for humans.

Sluggo will grow huge, having no natural enemies, will develop interstellar travel, and will play the title role in “The Son of The Son of The Blob.” Travolta will play the protagonist, and Keanu Reeves will have a cameo. Whoa!
Old 10-04-01 | 12:34 PM
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Or this is how we get Godzilla????

Wizdar - I like this signature much better. One of the funniest lines I 'd heard in a while.....
Old 10-04-01 | 01:09 PM
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Originally posted by das Monkey


THIS is Ceti Alph Five!!!

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That's exactly what I was thinking too!
Old 10-04-01 | 01:15 PM
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Thought it was alright. Pretty good character developing episode, but not exactly the kind you want to rewatch. Yeah, there were some stumbles like Archers overlong humanity speech to Ni'Pol, and the middle school fiction wrinting of the slug bit,... but I was interested enough to watch the whole thing and had a chuckle or two.

I still get a kick out of all the primative bits, the docking of the ship, the bad targeting, how they are unable to keep a slugalive. I liked the comment the doctor made about how his people dont talk during meals, quick lines like that, in so few words tell you that he is jovial because his people are reserved and being away from them opens him up- its just nice writing.

From the preview, Next week looks like a "scary planet" episode, which reminds me a lot of the Original and Next Gen.

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Old 10-04-01 | 01:24 PM
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Is Archer's dog (Pothos?) cute or what? I can't wait until that dog finds himself weightless in space in an upcoming episode. That would be funny. Or just take him for a walk in that middle of the Enterprise where Mayweather was enjoying the no-gravity zone.
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Where does that dog (Porthos) go to the bathroom? Archer fed him the cheese, but there's no back yard! Are we going to have a "Porthos Runs Amuck" episode? "The Trouble With...Porthos."
Old 10-04-01 | 01:37 PM
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technically they're all the same ship, NCC1701
Kirk got it for it's 3rd or 4th 5 year mission

Originally posted by elektra


When people say first Enterprise, are they referring to Kirk's ship or Pike's? I don't know if they covered sheilds with Pike's ship, but we all know that Kirk's ship had sheilds.

Overall, good story. Slug was a waste of film. I'll keep watching.


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