HBO Max — Warnermedia streaming service
12-15-22, 08:45 AM
#1801
DVD Talk Hero
Re: HBO Max — Warnermedia streaming service
https://deadline.com/2022/12/raised-by-wolves-the-time-travelers-wife-among
titles-being-removed-from-hbo-max-as-warner-bros-discovery-lines-up-fast-plans-1235199433/
More titles being removed, with seeming confirmation that they want to sell them to ad supported services. Earlier they admitted they're taking a bigger write off than originally announced as well.
edited to add: geez at that auto gif in the url. But appropriate for Zaslav I guess.
titles-being-removed-from-hbo-max-as-warner-bros-discovery-lines-up-fast-plans-1235199433/More titles being removed, with seeming confirmation that they want to sell them to ad supported services. Earlier they admitted they're taking a bigger write off than originally announced as well.
This comes as more shows are being removed from the streaming service including Raised By Wolves, Head of the Class and The Time Traveler’s Wife as well as reality shows FBoy Island, Legendary and Finding Magic Mike.The company is taking these shows, most of which were previously known to be canceled (only Finding Magic Mike is newly scrapped), off the platform and instead put together a package of shows to license to third-party FAST channels.
While many of these shows are produced by other studios including the likes of Scout Productions and STX, sources said that arrangements have been made even if complete deals haven’t closed.
Westworld, the Warner Bros TV-produced series that Deadline revealed was being lined up for free streaming, is also among this list of shows, alongside The Nevers.
Meanwhile, the rights to Gordita Chronicles, Love Life, Made For Love, The Garcias and Minx, which have been canceled, are reverting to the producers and studios behind them. The company said that it is speaking with studio partners about opportunities to “further expand the reach of the shows, including but not limited to licensing the series to third-party FAST platforms”.
While many of these shows are produced by other studios including the likes of Scout Productions and STX, sources said that arrangements have been made even if complete deals haven’t closed.
Westworld, the Warner Bros TV-produced series that Deadline revealed was being lined up for free streaming, is also among this list of shows, alongside The Nevers.
Meanwhile, the rights to Gordita Chronicles, Love Life, Made For Love, The Garcias and Minx, which have been canceled, are reverting to the producers and studios behind them. The company said that it is speaking with studio partners about opportunities to “further expand the reach of the shows, including but not limited to licensing the series to third-party FAST platforms”.
“All those write-offs… we didn’t take one show off a platform that is going to help us in any way,” he added on a recent earnings call.
12-15-22, 10:05 AM
#1802
DVD Talk Hero
Re: HBO Max — Warnermedia streaming service
Zaslav is doing to HBO and Warners what Elon Musk is doing to Twitter.
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12-15-22, 10:07 AM
#1803
DVD Talk Hero
Re: HBO Max Warnermedia streaming service
Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
Zaslav is doing to HBO and Warners what Elon Musk is doing to Twitter.
12-15-22, 11:42 AM
#1804
Re: HBO Max — Warnermedia streaming service
I'm rather annoyed they're licensing to FAST platforms specifically and not paid platforms like Netflix, Hulu, or Apple TV+.
12-15-22, 11:50 AM
#1805
DVD Talk Legend
Re: HBO Max — Warnermedia streaming service
I hope they keep Warrior at least until season 3 airs.
12-16-22, 07:05 AM
#1806
DVD Talk Hero
Re: HBO Max Warnermedia streaming service
Originally Posted by randian
I'm rather annoyed they're licensing to FAST platforms specifically and not paid platforms like Netflix, Hulu, or Apple TV+.
For decades, HBO was a premium brand. They were creating prestige programming like Sex and the City and The Sopranos. Twenty years ago, these were huge pop culture phenomenons, and also closely identified with the HBO brand.
So when you see them stripping the carcass and selling off even recent prestige shows to junk peddlers like Tubi, it's kind of alarming and feels like the old HBO is no more.
It's like if Apple started letting companies that sell cheap MP3 players license the "iPod" name. You really get a sense that they're letting go.
12-16-22, 07:20 AM
#1807
DVD Talk Hero
Re: HBO Max Warnermedia streaming service
Originally Posted by Jay G.
Ugh. That's like if one of the other streaming services renamed themselves to "Plus."
It also seems like it could cause confusion with the DMAX (Discovery Max) channel:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMAX_(Spanish_TV_channel)
Keeping the name HBO Max and just adding Discovery content too it seems like the smartest move, but I guess that the new heads that came from Discovery didn't want to admit HBO had better branding than Discovery. Outside of that though, I'm not sure what a good name would be. Maybe go outside the box like NBC Universal did with the Peacock name?
It also seems like it could cause confusion with the DMAX (Discovery Max) channel:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMAX_(Spanish_TV_channel)
Keeping the name HBO Max and just adding Discovery content too it seems like the smartest move, but I guess that the new heads that came from Discovery didn't want to admit HBO had better branding than Discovery. Outside of that though, I'm not sure what a good name would be. Maybe go outside the box like NBC Universal did with the Peacock name?
So if they're dropping the "HBO" from "HBO Max," it sounds like they're completely dropping the HBO part of the name in favor the Cinemax part.
It's a strange and disturbing corporate movie. I agree that it would have been smarter to fold the Discovery content into HBO Max and keep that name. Discovery has been a joke for a long time, crapping out an endless stream of reality schlock like Naked and Afraid, American Chopper, and Deadliest Catch. It does come off like a spiteful move on the part of Discovery, but it's also keeping up the trend of Warners getting bought by some third party then being their bitch, like in the "AOL-Time Warner" days.
The weird thing about Warners is that they're always being bought up by companies like AOL, AT&T, and Discovery, and you're just kind of scratching your head, thinking that it should be the other way around.
12-16-22, 07:49 AM
#1808
Re: HBO Max Warnermedia streaming service
Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
Yeah, that's really weird when you think about it.
For decades, HBO was a premium brand. They were creating prestige programming like Sex and the City and The Sopranos. Twenty years ago, these were huge pop culture phenomenons, and also closely identified with the HBO brand.
So when you see them stripping the carcass and selling off even recent prestige shows to junk peddlers like Tubi, it's kind of alarming and feels like the old HBO is no more.
It's like if Apple started letting companies that sell cheap MP3 players license the "iPod" name. You really get a sense that they're letting go.
For decades, HBO was a premium brand. They were creating prestige programming like Sex and the City and The Sopranos. Twenty years ago, these were huge pop culture phenomenons, and also closely identified with the HBO brand.
So when you see them stripping the carcass and selling off even recent prestige shows to junk peddlers like Tubi, it's kind of alarming and feels like the old HBO is no more.
It's like if Apple started letting companies that sell cheap MP3 players license the "iPod" name. You really get a sense that they're letting go.
I think a lot of this situation is getting blown way out of proportion.
12-16-22, 08:38 AM
#1809
DVD Talk Hero
Re: HBO Max Warnermedia streaming service
But at least Sex and the City and the Sopranos remain ready to stream.
It's the removing of Warner-produced material from HBO Max outright that is surprising, not the licensing of it to Ad-supported platforms.
I do wonder if they'll stay in rotation on HBO channels though, since they seem to be working to distance HBO Max from HBO proper?
It's the removing of Warner-produced material from HBO Max outright that is surprising, not the licensing of it to Ad-supported platforms.
I do wonder if they'll stay in rotation on HBO channels though, since they seem to be working to distance HBO Max from HBO proper?
Last edited by RichC2; 12-16-22 at 08:54 AM.
12-16-22, 08:53 AM
#1810
Re: HBO Max Warnermedia streaming service
Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
it sounds like they're completely dropping the HBO part of the name in favor the Cinemax part. It's a strange and disturbing corporate move.
12-16-22, 10:45 AM
#1811
DVD Talk Hero
Re: HBO Max Warnermedia streaming service
Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
I may be completely mis-reading this, but I was always under the impression that the "Max" part of "HBO Max" was in refernce to its sister channel Cinemax.
So if they're dropping the "HBO" from "HBO Max," it sounds like they're completely dropping the HBO part of the name in favor the Cinemax part.
It's a strange and disturbing corporate movie. I agree that it would have been smarter to fold the Discovery content into HBO Max and keep that name. Discovery has been a joke for a long time, crapping out an endless stream of reality schlock like Naked and Afraid, American Chopper, and Deadliest Catch. It does come off like a spiteful move on the part of Discovery, but it's also keeping up the trend of Warners getting bought by some third party then being their bitch, like in the "AOL-Time Warner" days.
The weird thing about Warners is that they're always being bought up by companies like AOL, AT&T, and Discovery, and you're just kind of scratching your head, thinking that it should be the other way around.
So if they're dropping the "HBO" from "HBO Max," it sounds like they're completely dropping the HBO part of the name in favor the Cinemax part.
It's a strange and disturbing corporate movie. I agree that it would have been smarter to fold the Discovery content into HBO Max and keep that name. Discovery has been a joke for a long time, crapping out an endless stream of reality schlock like Naked and Afraid, American Chopper, and Deadliest Catch. It does come off like a spiteful move on the part of Discovery, but it's also keeping up the trend of Warners getting bought by some third party then being their bitch, like in the "AOL-Time Warner" days.
The weird thing about Warners is that they're always being bought up by companies like AOL, AT&T, and Discovery, and you're just kind of scratching your head, thinking that it should be the other way around.
Also I don't think there's that much overreacting. They are in extreme extreme cost cutting mode which is not good. If Netflix took, say, Stranger Things off their service to peddle somewhere else, similar eyebrows would be raised.
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12-16-22, 12:12 PM
#1812
DVD Talk Hero
Re: HBO Max Warnermedia streaming service
Originally Posted by dex14
It's really not that much different than when they licensed Sex and the City to E! or The Sopranos to A&E. Worse because they were edited.
One, that HBO would rent out their crown jewel to a commercial-supported cable station while it was still in production. And, on top of that, the episodes would be censored and filled with commercials for Taco Bell and class action settlements.
Two, that A&E paid out two hundred million dollars for the rights to a watered down show, then seemed to barely show it.
12-16-22, 12:47 PM
#1813
Re: HBO Max Warnermedia streaming service
Originally Posted by fujishig
Also I don't think there's that much overreacting. They are in extreme extreme cost cutting mode which is not good. If Netflix took, say, Stranger Things off their service to peddle somewhere else, similar eyebrows would be raised.
Westworld stopped being high profile. People stopped watching it. $160mil was spent on a fourth season with abysmal ratings. They needed to find a way to get a ROI.
12-16-22, 02:50 PM
#1814
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Re: HBO Max — Warnermedia streaming service
It looks like all these shows they've announced as leaving show as "Leaving December 18". Does that mean they'll be there all day Sunday? Or will they disappear after Saturday?
I'm currently trying to binge the second season of "Raised by Wolves" and "FBoy Island" before they leave, but not sure I can do it by the end of Saturday.
I'm currently trying to binge the second season of "Raised by Wolves" and "FBoy Island" before they leave, but not sure I can do it by the end of Saturday.
12-17-22, 03:52 PM
#1815
DVD Talk Hero
Re: HBO Max — Warnermedia streaming service
Are they pulling stuff that originated on HBO proper (like Westworld) from On Demand, too?
12-17-22, 05:44 PM
#1817
DVD Talk Legend
Re: HBO Max Warnermedia streaming service
Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
Are they pulling stuff that originated on HBO proper (like Westworld) from On Demand, too?
Originally Posted by whotony
Probably
It's a bit like when Starz and Showtime had licensed out their content to Netflix before both started their own streaming services, but the content was still on cable on-demand.
12-20-22, 02:47 PM
#1818
DVD Talk Hero
Re: HBO Max — Warnermedia streaming service
Titles coming and leaving. That's a lot of titles leaving. Justice League, Justice League Unlimited, and Batman Brave and the Bold? My son's gonna be crushed.
https://pressroom.warnermedia.com/us...bo-max-january
edited to add: oh, maybe this is their deal with amazon.
https://bamsmackpow.com/2022/12/03/w...n-deal-amazon/
https://pressroom.warnermedia.com/us...bo-max-january
January 31:
12 Years A Slave, 2013 (HBO)
Abduction, 2011 (HBO)
Amityville 3-D, 1983 (HBO)
Amityville II: The Possession, 1982 (HBO)
Aquaman (1967)
At Close Range, 1986 (HBO)
At First Sight, 1999 (HBO)
Bananas, 1971 (HBO)
Batman: The Brave and the Bold
Biker Boyz, 2003 (HBO)
Boogie, 2021 (HBO)
Borg vs. Mcenroe, 2018 (HBO)
Care Bears: Unlock the Magic
Cellular, 2004 (HBO)
The Champ, 1979
Chinatown, 1974 (HBO)
Chocolate City, 2015 (HBO)
Chopped: Holiday
Chopped: Thanksgiving
Code of Silence, 1985 (HBO)
Confidence, 2003 (HBO)
Daybreakers, 2010 (HBO)
Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them, 2016
Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald, 2018
Fools Rush In, 1997
Gang Related, 1997 (HBO)
Good Deeds, 2012 (HBO)
Head of the Class (1986)
Holiday Baking Championship, Season 7
Holiday Baking Championship, Season 8
Horsemen, 2009 (HBO)
Hyde Park on the Hudson, 2012 (HBO)
I, Robot, 2004 (HBO)
Jeff, Who Lives At Home, 2012 (HBO)
John Wick, 2014
John Wick: Chapter 2, 2017
John Wick: Chapter 3 - Parabellum, 2017
Jurassic Park, 1993 (HBO)
Jurassic Park III, 2001 (HBO)
Justice League
Justice League Unlimited
Kick-Ass 2, 2013 (HBO)
Land, 2021 (HBO)
Le Divorce, 2003 (HBO)
Life of Pi, 2012 (HBO)
Little Men, 2016 (HBO)
Macbeth, 2015 (HBO)
Much Ado About Nothing, 1993 (HBO)
The New Adventures of Old Christine
The Next Karate Kid, 1994
Nostalgia, 2018 (HBO)
Rango, 2011 (HBO)
Riddick, 2013 (Director’s Cut) (HBO)
Rules of Engagement, 2000 (HBO)
Running Scared, 1986(HBO)
School Ties, 1992 (HBO)
Solaris, 2002(HBO)
Soul Food, 1997 (HBO)
Source Code, 2011
Suite Francaise, 2014 (HBO)
Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street, 2007 (HBO)
The Adventures of Sharkboy and Lavagirl, 2005 (HBO)
The Book Thief, 2013 (HBO)
The Care Bears Movie, 1985 (HBO)
The Con is On, 2018 (HBO)
The Core, 2003 (HBO)
The Dead Zone, 1983 (HBO)
The Help, 2011 (HBO)
The Lost World: Jurassic Park, 1997 (HBO)
The Next Three Days, 2010 (HBO)
The One I Love, 2014 (HBO)
The Possession, 2012 (Extended Version) (HBO)
The Untouchables, 1987 (HBO)
Thirteen, 2003 (HBO)
Transcendence, 2014 (HBO)
Two Can Play That Game, 2001
West Side Story, 1961 (HBO)
Zero Dark Thirty, 2012
12 Years A Slave, 2013 (HBO)
Abduction, 2011 (HBO)
Amityville 3-D, 1983 (HBO)
Amityville II: The Possession, 1982 (HBO)
Aquaman (1967)
At Close Range, 1986 (HBO)
At First Sight, 1999 (HBO)
Bananas, 1971 (HBO)
Batman: The Brave and the Bold
Biker Boyz, 2003 (HBO)
Boogie, 2021 (HBO)
Borg vs. Mcenroe, 2018 (HBO)
Care Bears: Unlock the Magic
Cellular, 2004 (HBO)
The Champ, 1979
Chinatown, 1974 (HBO)
Chocolate City, 2015 (HBO)
Chopped: Holiday
Chopped: Thanksgiving
Code of Silence, 1985 (HBO)
Confidence, 2003 (HBO)
Daybreakers, 2010 (HBO)
Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them, 2016
Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald, 2018
Fools Rush In, 1997
Gang Related, 1997 (HBO)
Good Deeds, 2012 (HBO)
Head of the Class (1986)
Holiday Baking Championship, Season 7
Holiday Baking Championship, Season 8
Horsemen, 2009 (HBO)
Hyde Park on the Hudson, 2012 (HBO)
I, Robot, 2004 (HBO)
Jeff, Who Lives At Home, 2012 (HBO)
John Wick, 2014
John Wick: Chapter 2, 2017
John Wick: Chapter 3 - Parabellum, 2017
Jurassic Park, 1993 (HBO)
Jurassic Park III, 2001 (HBO)
Justice League
Justice League Unlimited
Kick-Ass 2, 2013 (HBO)
Land, 2021 (HBO)
Le Divorce, 2003 (HBO)
Life of Pi, 2012 (HBO)
Little Men, 2016 (HBO)
Macbeth, 2015 (HBO)
Much Ado About Nothing, 1993 (HBO)
The New Adventures of Old Christine
The Next Karate Kid, 1994
Nostalgia, 2018 (HBO)
Rango, 2011 (HBO)
Riddick, 2013 (Director’s Cut) (HBO)
Rules of Engagement, 2000 (HBO)
Running Scared, 1986(HBO)
School Ties, 1992 (HBO)
Solaris, 2002(HBO)
Soul Food, 1997 (HBO)
Source Code, 2011
Suite Francaise, 2014 (HBO)
Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street, 2007 (HBO)
The Adventures of Sharkboy and Lavagirl, 2005 (HBO)
The Book Thief, 2013 (HBO)
The Care Bears Movie, 1985 (HBO)
The Con is On, 2018 (HBO)
The Core, 2003 (HBO)
The Dead Zone, 1983 (HBO)
The Help, 2011 (HBO)
The Lost World: Jurassic Park, 1997 (HBO)
The Next Three Days, 2010 (HBO)
The One I Love, 2014 (HBO)
The Possession, 2012 (Extended Version) (HBO)
The Untouchables, 1987 (HBO)
Thirteen, 2003 (HBO)
Transcendence, 2014 (HBO)
Two Can Play That Game, 2001
West Side Story, 1961 (HBO)
Zero Dark Thirty, 2012
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12-26-22, 01:31 PM
#1819
Re: HBO Max — Warnermedia streaming service
I always thought the Max part of HBO was referring to HBO to the max, or HBO maximum. Like the highest level of HBO. Never even crossed my mind that it had anything to do with Cinemax, because it was pretty obvious it didn't lol.
It's already been said but taking the HBO brand name off is a head scratcher. Until you realize if they have a new app that isn't HBO branded, they'll be able to double charge. You want HBO? Buy HBO through your cable. You want Max? Buy that too, to get access to HBO stuff online. They're rolling back the clock to when HBO & HBO Now were separate entities. It's greedy & it's gross. It also auto cancels all the marketing deals out there that offer "HBO Max" for free like AT&T phone subscribers get. Can't get something for free that doesn't exist anymore.
Capitalism sucks.
It's already been said but taking the HBO brand name off is a head scratcher. Until you realize if they have a new app that isn't HBO branded, they'll be able to double charge. You want HBO? Buy HBO through your cable. You want Max? Buy that too, to get access to HBO stuff online. They're rolling back the clock to when HBO & HBO Now were separate entities. It's greedy & it's gross. It also auto cancels all the marketing deals out there that offer "HBO Max" for free like AT&T phone subscribers get. Can't get something for free that doesn't exist anymore.
Capitalism sucks.
01-12-23, 10:33 AM
#1820
Re: HBO Max — Warnermedia streaming service
Warner Bros. Discovery is raising the monthly price of HBO Max for the first time since launching it more than two years ago.
Effective Thursday, Jan. 12, the price of a new HBO Max ad-free monthly subscription in the U.S. will increase from $14.99 to $15.99 plus applicable taxes. That’s about a 7% increase. Existing HBO Max subscribers who are currently paying $14.99/month will see their monthly rate increase to $15.99 effective their next billing cycle on or after Saturday, Feb. 11, 2023.
“This price increase of one dollar will allow us to continue to invest in providing even more culture-defining programming and improving our customer experience for all users,” the company said in a statement.
HBO Max launched in May 2020 at $14.99/month, back when it was part of AT&T-owned WarnerMedia. In June 2021, the company introduced an ad-supported HBO Max plan that costs $9.99/month; it isn’t immediately clear if the price of that package also will be increasing.
Warner Bros. Discovery is prepping a merged HBO Max-Discovery+ platform, set to launch in the U.S. in the spring of 2023. The company hasn’t announced details on pricing, packaging or a name yet (although “Max” is the leading contender at this point).
Effective Thursday, Jan. 12, the price of a new HBO Max ad-free monthly subscription in the U.S. will increase from $14.99 to $15.99 plus applicable taxes. That’s about a 7% increase. Existing HBO Max subscribers who are currently paying $14.99/month will see their monthly rate increase to $15.99 effective their next billing cycle on or after Saturday, Feb. 11, 2023.
“This price increase of one dollar will allow us to continue to invest in providing even more culture-defining programming and improving our customer experience for all users,” the company said in a statement.
HBO Max launched in May 2020 at $14.99/month, back when it was part of AT&T-owned WarnerMedia. In June 2021, the company introduced an ad-supported HBO Max plan that costs $9.99/month; it isn’t immediately clear if the price of that package also will be increasing.
Warner Bros. Discovery is prepping a merged HBO Max-Discovery+ platform, set to launch in the U.S. in the spring of 2023. The company hasn’t announced details on pricing, packaging or a name yet (although “Max” is the leading contender at this point).
01-12-23, 10:40 AM
#1821
DVD Talk Hero
Re: HBO Max — Warnermedia streaming service
That price increase seems ok, but coupled with everything else going on with the company/service...
01-12-23, 12:16 PM
#1823
Re: HBO Max Warnermedia streaming service
Originally Posted by Why So Blu?
I paid for the year at that low price a couple of months ago, so don't know if that will be affected.
01-12-23, 01:17 PM
#1824
Re: HBO Max Warnermedia streaming service
Gotta make sure they cash in on any new signs up The Last of Us will bring.
01-12-23, 03:16 PM
#1825
DVD Talk God
Re: HBO Max Warnermedia streaming service
Pay us more....for less!
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