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clckworang 08-25-22 05:57 PM

Re: Plex
 

Originally Posted by John Galt (Post 14153764)
What hardware are you using for 3d? I have a Zidoo and just use their built in software. I could never get Plex to display 3d and stopped trying.

I realized quickly Roku wouldn't do the trick. Then I have been trying to use my desktop computer, but I've since found out that most newer graphics cards don't support 3D. I've been trying to figure out an alternative. I'll look into Zidoo.

clckworang 08-26-22 12:57 PM

Re: Plex
 
After some temporary difficulties, I was finally able to figure out how to expand my storage pool. :banana: But it's going to take like 2 days to finish migrating everything. :sad:

RocShemp 08-30-22 10:35 PM

Re: Plex
 

Originally Posted by John Galt (Post 14153764)
What hardware are you using for 3d? I have a Zidoo and just use their built in software. I could never get Plex to display 3d and stopped trying.

I was considering building my own media player PC to run ISOs of my discs from a NAS until I heard of Zidoo. Unfortunately, I can't tell which model is right for me. Yes, I wanna play all my 4K, 3D BD, and BDs from a NAS but I don't want to get the fanciest model if one of their lower tiers will suffice. Sadly, I could never find a comparison chart of the different models. Just their individual product pages which kinda skew the same, minus a few differences I might spot here and there.

RocShemp 09-01-22 08:09 PM

Re: Plex
 
I was able to find the answer to my own question.


I'll be ordering the Zidoo Z1000 Pro, rather than the UDH3000.
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clckworang 09-02-22 10:15 AM

Re: Plex
 
It's really annoying when Plex won't read a movie. I've got two now that just don't show up at all. I guess I'll need to play around more with it.


Originally Posted by RocShemp (Post 14157560)
I was able to find the answer to my own question.

https://youtu.be/g9qR1Q8rPbs

I'll be ordering the Zidoo Z1000 Pro, rather than the UDH3000.
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After just looking up the prices, I think you made the right call.

fujishig 09-02-22 11:21 AM

Re: Plex
 

Originally Posted by clckworang (Post 14157794)
It's really annoying when Plex won't read a movie. I've got two now that just don't show up at all. I guess I'll need to play around more with it.



After just looking up the prices, I think you made the right call.

They don't show up even if you view by folder, or they don't get indexed and recognized?

clckworang 09-02-22 11:37 AM

Re: Plex
 

Originally Posted by fujishig (Post 14157833)
They don't show up even if you view by folder, or they don't get indexed and recognized?

They don't show up at all. There are folders with video files, but they don't appear at all within Plex. It's like the folders aren't there. I wouldn't mind if the folder popped up but Plex didn't know how to match it. At least it would be there!

andicus 09-02-22 01:16 PM

Re: Plex
 
Not to state the obvious, but have you manually done a 'Scan Library Files' ?

And, presumably the format is the same as other files you can see, or at least a supported format?

clckworang 09-02-22 01:34 PM

Re: Plex
 

Originally Posted by andicus (Post 14157897)
Not to state the obvious, but have you manually done a 'Scan Library Files' ?

And, presumably the format is the same as other files you can see, or at least a supported format?

Scan library files, analyze files, refresh meta data ... tried all of those. They are the same files produced through makemkv that all the others are that show up.

andicus 09-02-22 01:48 PM

Re: Plex
 
Do you have more than one server?

I have a server on my PC, and also one running on my Synology NAS.

That throws me, now and then, because some of my content is duplicated.

I'm still pretty new to this, so always seem to be running into one strangeness or another. It took a while to get things running, again, after the recommended password update.

Edit: One other thing... you said they were produced through makemkv, but were their original sources the same, as well? MKV is a container, so it's possible to have a different codec, and possibly one that's not supported.

clckworang 09-02-22 02:46 PM

Re: Plex
 

Originally Posted by andicus (Post 14157931)
Do you have more than one server?

I have a server on my PC, and also one running on my Synology NAS.

That throws me, now and then, because some of my content is duplicated.

I'm still pretty new to this, so always seem to be running into one strangeness or another. It took a while to get things running, again, after the recommended password update.

Edit: One other thing... you said they were produced through makemkv, but were their original sources the same, as well? MKV is a container, so it's possible to have a different codec, and possibly one that's not supported.

Only one server. These folders are sitting right next to the other folders being read. One title is a UHD, and the other is a movie from the Andy Milligan set. I've not had any previous issues with UHDs I've backed up. As for the Milligan, the other movie pulled from the same disc shows up fine.

I think Plex mainly looks for a file in the folder. If there's an unsupported codec, I would think Plex would log the film into your collection but be unable to play it. I mean, films show up as soon as they start ripping, not when they're confirmed to be able to be played. So, I think you can have a corrupt, incomplete or unsupported file in there; it just won't play. My file will play just fine on my computer - Plex just doesn't see it.

It's not the first time something like this happens, but I can usually get it to work. And then there's one file that I couldn't get to match correctly. So, I kept trying to update the file and folder names to get it matched, and now it won't even show up. So, it's not a codec thing. Plex is just weird sometimes.

andicus 09-02-22 03:44 PM

Re: Plex
 
I initially thought that, too (that Plex would show, but not be able to play the content). Something I read made me question whether that was the case.

As a test, I would copy an existing/working file to a different filename, in the same folder that's not working.

See if that then shows up. If so, it would appear that it's content related.

And I agree, Plex is definitely weird, at times. Great when it works, though.

clckworang 09-02-22 04:01 PM

Re: Plex
 

Originally Posted by andicus (Post 14157998)
I initially thought that, too (that Plex would show, but not be able to play the content). Something I read made me question whether that was the case.

As a test, I would copy an existing/working file to a different filename, in the same folder that's not working.

See if that then shows up. If so, it would appear that it's content related.

And I agree, Plex is definitely weird, at times. Great when it works, though.

So, again, you're saying it's a content issue when other content pulled from the same disc shows up fine? And the file that I mentioned that used to show up but no longer does ... I guess I somehow changed the codec for that, too?

andicus 09-02-22 04:25 PM

Re: Plex
 
I'm just suggesting a troubleshooting method, and that 'if' that pans out (i.e. the renamed file then shows up), it would appear that it's content related. I.e. same name, different content.

I missed the part about the file that no longer shows up. Did you rename it to the original folder/name, and it still doesn't show up?

Edit: I'm even confusing myself, re-reading that. What I'm saying is change one thing. In this case, the name/location of a known working file. If that works, it would appear that it's the content causing the issue, for some reason.
Not to be confused with the second case, you mentioned, where the once working file now doesn't show up.

clckworang 09-02-22 05:06 PM

Re: Plex
 

Originally Posted by andicus (Post 14158016)
I'm just suggesting a troubleshooting method, and that 'if' that pans out (i.e. the renamed file then shows up), it would appear that it's content related. I.e. same name, different content.

I missed the part about the file that no longer shows up. Did you rename it to the original folder/name, and it still doesn't show up?

Edit: I'm even confusing myself, re-reading that. What I'm saying is change one thing. In this case, the name/location of a known working file. If that works, it would appear that it's the content causing the issue, for some reason.
Not to be confused with the second case, you mentioned, where the once working file now doesn't show up.

Thanks for the suggestion. It's not a content issue.

Does anyone else have any ideas?

Dan 09-02-22 09:01 PM

Re: Plex
 
Really no idea. What a strange thing.

The only experience I've had that's remotely similar (and only a little bit) is that sometimes Plex thinks two different movies are actually the same movie, so when I add the second file to my database, it seems like nothing shows up at all. Somehow (I can't remember...) I managed to figure out which movie it thought it was and I could then 'split' the two files into two separate entries, then fix the one that was erroneously cataloged.

But in your case... I dunno. :shrug: super weird.

RichC2 09-02-22 09:27 PM

Re: Plex
 

Originally Posted by clckworang (Post 14157843)
They don't show up at all. There are folders with video files, but they don't appear at all within Plex. It's like the folders aren't there. I wouldn't mind if the folder popped up but Plex didn't know how to match it. At least it would be there!

It's probably matching to another movie that's in your collection or otherwise just glitching. I'd rename the folder/files to something polar opposite and then manually match it with the proper title.

IE: Remove the folder/files, rescan, rename folder/files and copy them back to your Plex folder, rescan

mndtrp 09-06-22 01:05 PM

Re: Plex
 
Does the folder and file start with a period or ellipsis "." or "..."?" I had a problem with things like "...And Justice for All" not showing up, and it was due to the period at the beginning. Apparently some file systems ignore files that start with periods.

IDrinkMolson 09-06-22 03:07 PM

Re: Plex
 
Just to confirm, are you using the Admin account, and not an acct that does not have access to that particular library?

And, I found this on Reddit (from 4 years ago) -
The fix: remove the movie to a folder outside of the Plex library. Then run a manual library scan/update. Then move the movie back and scan/update again.



clckworang 09-08-22 10:03 AM

Re: Plex
 

Originally Posted by RichC2 (Post 14158167)
It's probably matching to another movie that's in your collection or otherwise just glitching. I'd rename the folder/files to something polar opposite and then manually match it with the proper title.

IE: Remove the folder/files, rescan, rename folder/files and copy them back to your Plex folder, rescan


Originally Posted by mndtrp (Post 14159598)
Does the folder and file start with a period or ellipsis "." or "..."?" I had a problem with things like "...And Justice for All" not showing up, and it was due to the period at the beginning. Apparently some file systems ignore files that start with periods.

I was able to get the UHD working. It turns out I had already ripped the Blu-ray but had a typo in the title, which is why it didn't show up when I searched on my computer and wasn't showing as a new addition on Plex.

The other title still won't show up. I've basically given up on it. It dosn't have a title with any weird punctuation or resemble any other title in my collection. The movie is Fiend with the Electronic Brain. Not many similar titles.


Originally Posted by IDrinkMolson (Post 14159641)
Just to confirm, are you using the Admin account, and not an acct that does not have access to that particular library?

And, I found this on Reddit (from 4 years ago) -
The fix: remove the movie to a folder outside of the Plex library. Then run a manual library scan/update. Then move the movie back and scan/update again.

If I wasn't using an admin account, how would I be able to add anything at all? Besides, I'm the one who created the account. And I've done the Plex dance many times. That's always the first thing to try when something isn't being picked up.

RichC2 09-08-22 11:22 AM

Re: Plex
 

Originally Posted by clckworang (Post 14160422)
I was able to get the UHD working. It turns out I had already ripped the Blu-ray but had a typo in the title, which is why it didn't show up when I searched on my computer and wasn't showing as a new addition on Plex.

The other title still won't show up. I've basically given up on it. It dosn't have a title with any weird punctuation or resemble any other title in my collection. The movie is Fiend with the Electronic Brain. Not many similar titles.



If I wasn't using an admin account, how would I be able to add anything at all? Besides, I'm the one who created the account. And I've done the Plex dance many times. That's always the first thing to try when something isn't being picked up.

fwiw, I dropped a file called "Fiend with the Electronic Brain" into my folder, it matches as Blood of Ghastly Horror.

I have a Family folder and Plex once matched a kid movie with a French flick featuring two full frontal naked men on the cover :shrug:

clckworang 09-08-22 11:57 AM

Re: Plex
 

Originally Posted by RichC2 (Post 14160477)
fwiw, I dropped a file called "Fiend with the Electronic Brain" into my folder, it matches as Blood of Ghastly Horror.

I have a Family folder and Plex once matched a kid movie with a French flick featuring two full frontal naked men on the cover :shrug:

Oh, that's very useful! I'll try changing the name when I get home. Yeah, I've seen Plex do some wonky matching before. That's why I always look while things are getting added to confirm it's correct and getting picked up. The problem here is nothing was ever added, not even Blood of Ghastly Horror. I would have noticed that if it popped up.

I just searched my Plex library on my phone, and there's no listing for it under either name. If this name change doesn't work, maybe I'll try to rip the title again. As I mentioned before, I don't think Plex likes it if you change names too many times. Maybe that's why it's not picking it up now. Not sure why I didn't pick it up then, though.

John Galt 09-09-22 10:38 AM

Re: Plex
 
Well, it finally happened...I upgraded my libraries from the legacy agent to the "new" Plex agent. I had been dreading it because I know Plex can't implement anything without breaking things. After running the scan, my library decreased from 2,581 movies down to 2,540. Now I have to go through almost 2600 titles and figure out which ones aren't getting pulled in now.

EDIT: Turns out they combined any movies with multiple editions into a single title, despite me having them previously split apart. Fortunately there is a way to filter these down to make the process quicker. Still a majorly unnecessary pain in the ass to split apart 40 movies and rename them back to what they originally were. After all this I'm still left with 1 single title that isn't pulling in.

clckworang 12-16-22 09:58 PM

Re: Plex
 
Does anyone here have the Jean Rollin film Lips of Blood on Plex? I can't find anything for it. It wants to match it to Love Brides of the Mummy, which is a film from 2 years earlier that had Lips of Blood as an alternate title in some areas. I tried some alternate titles, including the French name, but no luck.

This one really stumps me, though, because I thought this was one of his better known films and I haven't had any issues matching other Rollin films. When I look at his filmography on Plex, it's not listed. I don't get it. Anyway, I'm hoping someone else has added it or knows a possible solution.

andicus 12-16-22 10:30 PM

Re: Plex
 

Originally Posted by clckworang (Post 14207277)
Does anyone here have the Jean Rollin film Lips of Blood on Plex? I can't find anything for it. It wants to match it to Love Brides of the Mummy, which is a film from 2 years earlier that had Lips of Blood as an alternate title in some areas. I tried some alternate titles, including the French name, but no luck.

This one really stumps me, though, because I thought this was one of his better known films and I haven't had any issues matching other Rollin films. When I look at his filmography on Plex, it's not listed. I don't get it. Anyway, I'm hoping someone else has added it or knows a possible solution.

I don't have it, but I tried to match another title to it, and failed.

Then I found a solution, someone had posted... Instead of putting the title in, for the match search, use the IMDB number.

In this case, it's tt0073324.

When I used that for the title, the correct match came up.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/dvdtalk...a86edbaeb5.png

clckworang 12-17-22 02:22 PM

Re: Plex
 

Originally Posted by andicus (Post 14207286)
I don't have it, but I tried to match another title to it, and failed.

Then I found a solution, someone had posted... Instead of putting the title in, for the match search, use the IMDB number.

In this case, it's tt0073324.

When I used that for the title, the correct match came up.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/dvdtalk...a86edbaeb5.png

Wow! It worked! Thanks so much. I had no idea about that trick. I have a feeling that will come in handy.

andicus 12-17-22 03:50 PM

Re: Plex
 
^You're welcome, and yeah, I think it will be very handy, indeed!

RichC2 08-01-23 12:26 PM

Re: Plex
 
Just a random chime in, but the Plex FAST service is surprisingly stacked.

mndtrp 08-02-23 12:33 PM

Re: Plex
 
PlexAmp has become one of the best things about Plex for me. I don't even have cell service, and use it entirely on my home network with a wifi smartphone. If I leave the house, I use the download feature for various albums or playlists.

The Sonic Analysis really opens up a lot of options, especially with the Guest DJs. I love picking an album or playlist, and then using DJ Stretch or DJ Gemini to pad out the runtime with other similar songs. The radio stations are nice, particularly Time Travel radio, and the Mixes for You are an easy way to start listening to something if I don't have an album or artist in mind already.

They recently opened the app up for free users of Plex, although some parts of it are still locked behind the paid plan. Easily worth the $60 I paid for a lifetime membership.

The Cow 08-02-23 05:34 PM

Re: Plex
 
I've been using that for a while too, we like it. I wish they would make a Roku app. The developers still say they have no current plans to do so (because of having to create and support a totally different UI).

John Galt 09-14-23 07:59 AM

Re: Plex
 
Over the last week I had a number of titles in my library have their posters removed. While researching the issue, it sounds like Plex is getting hit with some copyright violations for using the posters from certain studios. Not sure what the long term effects will be, but I'm going through my entire library and fixing dozens of titles yet again.

andicus 09-14-23 08:19 AM

Re: Plex
 
Well, that's disappointing, for two reasons... Obviously, because posters are disappearing, but also because it's a dynamic process. I would've hoped that once the posters were set, they were just stored locally and never modified, unless you actively did so.

mndtrp 09-14-23 11:28 AM

Re: Plex
 
I don't know about movie posters changing, but I've seen posters for the TV shows change randomly. I believe you can opt out of automatic metadata updating, which would likely stop any changes made to the posters.

andicus 09-14-23 12:28 PM

Re: Plex
 

Originally Posted by mndtrp (Post 14322601)
I don't know about movie posters changing, but I've seen posters for the TV shows change randomly. I believe you can opt out of automatic metadata updating, which would likely stop any changes made to the posters.

Thanks. I think this is the key:

The 'Plex Settings' icon. On the left menu, click the Scheduled Tasks option under the Settings section. Check the Refresh local metadata every three days option.

In my case, I unchecked the option. Hopefully that will do it.

John Galt 09-14-23 02:12 PM

Re: Plex
 
Yeah, I have refresh metadata unchecked. It didn't change posters like they do with metadata updates, it physically removed them. Now it's just one of those random screengrabs from the movie in place of the poster.

andicus 09-14-23 03:11 PM

Re: Plex
 
^Just to clarify, you had that unchecked already, and still lost some of your posters?

fujishig 09-14-23 10:35 PM

Re: Plex
 
Can’t you configure which site you get the metadata from? I thing default is thetvdb and moviedb or something, are those sites getting hit with cease and desist?

John Galt 09-16-23 10:30 AM

Re: Plex
 

Originally Posted by andicus (Post 14322687)
^Just to clarify, you had that unchecked already, and still lost some of your posters?

Correct. Here's the thread I found on the issue.


Originally Posted by fujishig (Post 14322895)
Can’t you configure which site you get the metadata from? I thing default is thetvdb and moviedb or something, are those sites getting hit with cease and desist?

It used to be the two you mentioned, but Plex started pushing their own plex agent last year and basically forcing you to switch to maintain the same level of service. The Plex agent was a lot faster for pulling in movies than the other ones, but it looks like this is the downside to that.

fujishig 09-17-23 08:05 AM

Re: Plex
 
Ha I didn't even realize it changed over, I swear it still uses the TVDB/moviedb stuff or they are very very similar. Seems like you can change the source by library but that's obviously a hassle if your library is large, do we know if themoviedb is also affected? Which movie?

mndtrp 09-18-23 11:57 AM

Re: Plex
 
I just did a scroll through my movie database, and nothing appeared to be affected. I have the auto-update for metadata enabled. I checked a couple that were listed in the Plex forums as being affected, and mine are still all good.

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