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Old 04-20-23, 03:21 AM
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Re: RIP Netflix disc rental service 1998-2023

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They are making money so why not keep the disc service?
Are they though? I don’t think they disclose this on their 10K so no way to know for sure what type of margins the disc service has.
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Re: RIP Netflix disc rental service 1998-2023

Originally Posted by JeffTheAlpaca
You were streaming movies in 2013??
You could stream movies on the PS3 in 2009. They sent you a special disc that you had to load up each time you wanted, but it was there. I still have the envelope for that disc but have long since lost the disc itself.
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Re: RIP Netflix disc rental service 1998-2023

I started in 2010 with Vizio’s first “smart TV” which I didn’t keep very long due to issues. Vudu had the best quality then, most of Netflix’s stuff was VideoCD quality but at least they left you the hell alone while watching it.
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Re: RIP Netflix disc rental service 1998-2023

It will suck since I liked the option of renting on disc along with streaming.

I think if you were a frequent renter they punished you and made you wait longer for new releases?

That and the long waits will not be missed.

I remember it took maybe 5 months to get the 40 Year Old Virgin in 2006 to rent on dvd after it was released on DVD.
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I was on the Netflix DVD plan until about three years ago, hanging on mostly because of the much larger library for DVDs vs streaming. By that time I had dropped down to the 1-disc-at-a-time tier, and I was subscribing to Netflix streaming one month a year to catch up on "Stranger Things" and a few other exclusives.
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Re: RIP Netflix disc rental service 1998-2023

Originally Posted by DJariya
I wonder if they will have a massive blow out sale of all their used discs or if they will just throw them all in the trash? I wouldn't be surprised if they don't even bother acknowledging what they will do with their remaining disc inventory.

Anyhow, I'm amazed it lasted this long when disc rentals pretty much became irrelevant in the last 10+ years.
They could send them to Alan.
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Old 04-23-23, 04:02 PM
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I think I did the trial a couple of times and maybe paid for a few months but it seemed like I would get a lot of discs at the beginning and then I couldn't keep up with watching them. I'm surprised Redbox is still going. I suspect they will be gone in the next 2-3 years. They alread took two boxes out of one Walmart near here.
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Speaking of Redbox, apparently they’ve been trying to buy Netflix’s DVD service, but keep getting rebuffed.

https://www.theverge.com/2023/4/21/2...-business-save
Old 04-23-23, 04:36 PM
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Re: RIP Netflix disc rental service 1998-2023

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Speaking of Redbox, apparently they’ve been trying to buy Netflix’s DVD service, but keep getting rebuffed.

https://www.theverge.com/2023/4/21/2...-business-save
It's weird that they wouldn't sell it to them. They're closing might as well make a sale and more money off a closing business.
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It's weird that they wouldn't sell it to them. They're closing might as well make a sale and more money off a closing business.
According to the article, all the attempts were made before the recent closing announcement. So, who knows, maybe if they try again they can do it this time? On the other hand, maybe Netflix is taking some kind of tax write-off and it's more profitable for them to close it than sell it.
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Re: RIP Netflix disc rental service 1998-2023

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I think I did the trial a couple of times and maybe paid for a few months but it seemed like I would get a lot of discs at the beginning and then I couldn't keep up with watching them. I'm surprised Redbox is still going. I suspect they will be gone in the next 2-3 years. They alread took two boxes out of one Walmart near here.
Redbox signed a deal with Dollar General stores to install 1500 kiosks at their stores.
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Re: RIP Netflix disc rental service 1998-2023

Originally Posted by lwhy?
It's weird that they wouldn't sell it to them. They're closing might as well make a sale and more money off a closing business.
Maybe the end goal is to hinder the disc rental service business all together to push more to streaming. So selling to someone else wouldn't be in line with that goal.
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I signed up for Netflix in 2003 or so. 3 disc plan, I thought it was great. Eventually I upped to the 6 disc plan, and had multiple queues set up. One for new movies, one for older movies, one for tv shows, one for documentaries. Can't recall the other two. It was pretty cool having the different things sent as I returned discs. If I wasn't feeling the documentary for a week or so, I wouldn't get a new doc until I finally sent that one back. When the streaming started, where you got one hour of streaming for every dollar your subscription cost, the selection was awful. I still watched stuff, just because of the novelty. Eventually it grew to its peak, prior to all of the other streaming services yanking back the rights to content, and Netflix going hog wild on creating their own content. Ultimately, I dropped Netflix altogether recently when I realized I didn't care for many of their new properties, and the ones I did like they kept on canceling after one or two seasons.
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Redbox signed a deal with Dollar General stores to install 1500 kiosks at their stores.
All the Dollar General stores around here are located in the worst parts of the towns and some have been forced to close due to fire hazards. I was hired as a co manager of one about seven years ago. I kept wanting to unblock emergency exits, electric panels, lighting fixtures and make the public areas accessible for wheel chairs. The manager kept screaming at me telling me I was wasting my time. I got fed up walked out after ten days warning the manager that there's no way he could legally pass a fire inspection. I'm surprised they made it this long without getting fined. There's no way I would go anywhere near a Dollar General to rent a DVD, but most of their clientele probably can't afford Netflix, so maybe there's a market for it in those stores.
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Re: RIP Netflix disc rental service 1998-2023

Originally Posted by JeffTheAlpaca
They are making money so why not keep the disc service?
They wouldn't be cutting the service if it was making money. They were losing money when they were exclusively a disc renting service 12 year ago,and that was with a larger customer base,cheaper mailing costs,storage costs and worker salaries. They probably didn't get rid of disc service years ago out of a feeling of obligation to the core part of their business that made them what they are.
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Re: RIP Netflix disc rental service 1998-2023

In recent years Dollar General has been opening up stores in small, rural towns. Usually, they're building cheap metal buildings on the outskirts of the town and putting stores in those.

And even though they're out in the sticks, people still break into them and steal stuff like cigarettes.

But I could see them putting Red Boxes outside of those stores. Rural towns don't always have good internet, and streaming probably isn't an option for a lot of those people.

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Re: RIP Netflix disc rental service 1998-2023

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In recent years Dollar General has been opening up stores in small, rural towns. Usually, they're building cheap metal buildings on the outskirts of the town and putting stores in those.
I went into the Dollar General in my rural Kansas hometown last year, and was surprised at just how much stuff they had in there. The grocery section was pretty well stocked, although no fresh fruits/vegetables. The medicine and makeup sections were more complete than the local grocery store.
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Re: RIP Netflix disc rental service 1998-2023

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According to the article, all the attempts were made before the recent closing announcement. So, who knows, maybe if they try again they can do it this time? On the other hand, maybe Netflix is taking some kind of tax write-off and it's more profitable for them to close it than sell it.

A small glimmer of misguided hope that Redbox could be like Netfix and mail discs in envelopes.
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Re: RIP Netflix disc rental service 1998-2023

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They wouldn't be cutting the service if it was making money. They were losing money when they were exclusively a disc renting service 12 year ago,and that was with a larger customer base,cheaper mailing costs,storage costs and worker salaries. They probably didn't get rid of disc service years ago out of a feeling of obligation to the core part of their business that made them what they are.
And wasn't it 12 years ago when they had the brilllant Qwikster spinoff plan?
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Re: RIP Netflix disc rental service 1998-2023

Originally Posted by milo bloom
You could stream movies on the PS3 in 2009. They sent you a special disc that you had to load up each time you wanted, but it was there. I still have the envelope for that disc but have long since lost the disc itself.
Yeah that was that funny time period when Microsoft paid for Netflix exclusivity out of the box on XBOX 360, but Netflix worked around it with those boot discs. The Wii had one too. Xbox's Netflix client even had the option to set up virtual watch parties, which is something that Netflix doesn't even offer at all today.
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Re: RIP Netflix disc rental service 1998-2023

We're still getting Netflix DVDs. It's inexpensive, and they have a larger catalogue than the streaming service.
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In 2010, Netflix had 18 million subscribers, and $320 million profit on revenue of $2.1 billion.

Now, in 2022, Netflix had about 1.2 million DVD subscribers, with revenue of $145 million (they don't break out profitability). They've probably lost some economies of scale, and costs have gone up, especially with postage. So, it's not hard to imagine that they may not even be breaking even on the DVD division.
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This article brings up some good points on why getting rid of the DVD service is a terrible move and bad for movie fans.

Streaming as the only option sucks dick.


By the mid-2010s, as streaming options such as Prime and Netflix supplanted physical media, I began to sense that the central promise of streaming – every movie or show ever, available at your fingertips – was false. Too many great films are inaccessible. In 2017, I wrote about Netflix’s abysmal catalogue of classic films to stream. As of 2023, the US service offers just 35 movies released before 1980. Far more are available to rent on Amazon, but certainly not everything. Many culturally significant films, like Pink Flamingos(1972) or Rebecca(1940), remain mysteriously unstreamable.


Meanwhile, streaming content seems increasingly disposable because the corporate powers treat it as such. In the US, HBO Max (soon to be Max) recently removed a handful of its own original films and shows, including The Witches (2020) and An American Pickle (2020), starring Seth Rogen. If HBO Max can’t even be trusted to care for and preserve its own original movies, how can it be trusted to care about anyone else’s?

We were told that “everything’s on streaming now”. We thought we’d have access to 120 years of cinema history. Instead, we have access only to the content that can be readily and easily monetised, trapped in garish and unreliable platforms. There’s no guarantee your favourite movie will still be streaming next month. It feels as if the internet’s vast early possibility has shrunk.



https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...cinema-history
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Re: RIP Netflix disc rental service 1998-2023

If you have a favorite movie, just buy it. No need to worry about streaming. Is this such a difficult thing?
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Old 05-04-23, 01:47 AM
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Re: RIP Netflix disc rental service 1998-2023

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If you have a favorite movie, just buy it. No need to worry about streaming. Is this such a difficult thing?
I don’t use Netflix rentals for my favorite movies, but for things I want to watch once.
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