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Old 04-04-11 | 01:20 PM
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IMO, comparing a B&M store to an pure E-Tailer is like comparing Apples to Oranges.
If Amazon is Apples and Borders is Oranges, then the Oranges had at least ten years to get their act together and figure out how to compete with the Apples.
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If Amazon is Apples and Borders is Oranges, then the Oranges had at least ten years to get their act together and figure out how to compete with the Apples.
I meant B&M stores have a hard time competing with E-Tailer Prices.

As a former Operations Manager of a local Borders, there is a lot more fuss with the Payroll/hours of a normal B&M store compared to an E-Tailer.

B&M stores can only offer so much savings because of the way their Payroll/Operations are setup. That has more to do with the limitations of being a B&M (of any kind)
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Does anyone know if the Peabody, MA store has closed yet? If not, what are you seeing for markdowns?
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Another head's up for those of you in Southern CA. The Montclair store has a lot of book stock left. Only a handful of Blu-rays (mostly Bond titles, Traitor, Eclipse, Fight Club, and a couple of others).

Books ranged from 50% (Blu-rays, biographies, history and travel) to 60% (for literature). An extra 10% for three days this week. Nabbed a copy of Lonely Planet Thailand for $4 less than Amazon, so there are some (albeit very few) deals to be had.
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Originally Posted by davidh777
http://ereads.com/2011/04/borders-ha...ast-laugh.html

A closing Borders Bookstore in Chicago hung this sign in their window.

I could appreciate the bitterness if we were talking about a mom-and-pop operation but coming from a big-box retailer I can't help but have a "that's what you get for being the dinosaur" mentality.

Borders has a website and instead of writing clever little signs that make them look like sore losers (and yes, I know this was done on a local, individual level) maybe they should be kicking themselves for not putting more eggs into the online basket a decade or so back.
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I could appreciate the bitterness if we were talking about a mom-and-pop operation but coming from a big-box retailer I can't help but have a "that's what you get for being the dinosaur" mentality.

Borders has a website and instead of writing clever little signs that make them look like sore losers (and yes, I know this was done on a local, individual level) maybe they should be kicking themselves for not putting more eggs into the online basket a decade or so back.
Yeah, and it's not like Borders.com isn't still functional, so they might as well say "No bathroom, go to Borders.com". Shouldn't they be more bitter at their own central management? What's the term for this... projection or displacement? It's been a while since high school psychology.

Another strike against the bathroom joke: it's quite a short trip from my PC to my bathroom. So, I think I would rather browse Amazon's cheaper DVDs and take a leak in my own bathroom (which doesn't smell like piss).
Old 04-11-11 | 04:31 PM
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San Rafael, CA store is at 30% Books/30% DVD's/Blu-Ray's. Paperchase items were at 50% but there was hardly anything left other than Greeting Cards.

I still have friends who work at that store and it was sad to hear customers getting a laugh at their expense.

While waiting in line with my girlfriend to buy some magazines that were on sale, I heard one customer walk up and say to a Cashier:

"Wow, you look happy"

This after the store was a madhouse and all the staff on duty was doing their best to get the line in check.

Another customer came up to one of my friends who was cashiering and said:

"Maybe if you guys got into the E-Reader business earlier, you would still have a job"

All these responses from a simple "I can help the next customer in line"

I can understand if these people aren't a fan of a company, but have a little bit of respect for this group of people who are losing their jobs. Hearing people get in their snide remarks just randomly (for no reason) was pretty disgusting to say the least.
Old 04-11-11 | 09:21 PM
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Yeah, and people should also keep in mind that these employees have nothing to lose.
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Was in one today and heard someone asking about the price of something and wondering why it was cheaper online.
The woman working began muttering to the customer about it being cheaper because it bypasses
The midddleman and "her supplier and her other middle people" don't get paid and that's why it's cheaper online.
She had a tone to her voice that was a bit arrogant and was borderline insulting to the customer.
While she was talking to this person she was walking away from her instead of standing there and speaking directly to her, "so yeah that's why we don't price match to the web site." customer of course says "well I'll just go home and get it from the web site then."

Employee snottily replied something like "well if you had the plus card you could buy it for like 40% off the list price." this last part she was mumbling under her breath but since she was still walking away from the person I doubt she would have heard it anyway.
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Sounds like this sucks for everyone--the store workers who are losing their jobs and getting laughed at for it, and the customers who are becoming outlets for the workers' frustration. We're talking about specific cases, of course, not every customer or worker, but there aren't any real winners here, even if some people are getting cheap stuff.
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Was in the Dallas store at Preston and Royal. It closes for good in 2 days. All items are $2.99 or less. History and Biography books are 90% off; all others are 80% off. DVDs and Blue Rays have been shipped to other stores, but I did manage to find a BluRay copy of THE ALPHABET KILLER that cost me $1.80 after a 90% discount. The only CDs were some Christmas titles. On the book front, I managed to get a copy of THEY CALL ME BABBABOOEY for $2.50.
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Yeah, and people should also keep in mind that these employees have nothing to lose.
If I was one of these employees and I had no shot in transfering to another store, I would easily have told those morons to go fuck themselves.
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Sounds like this sucks for everyone--the store workers who are losing their jobs and getting laughed at for it, and the customers who are becoming outlets for the workers' frustration. We're talking about specific cases, of course, not every customer or worker, but there aren't any real winners here, even if some people are getting cheap stuff.
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This

The thing is both of those things are normal occurrence in Retail outside of a Liquidation. Much of the general public looks down on Retail Employees, regardless of how well some of them decide to do their job. Also many Retail Employees sometimes take their frustrations of the stress of working Retail on Customers (and each other).

This is too funny not to share
http://www.buzzfeed.com/donnad/bitte...rs-compilation
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Funny that the sign was hanging in Chicago. I used to live in Chicago and the Borders bathrooms were essentially homeless shelters. I'd go in there and aside from the bathroom being mostly torn apart with urine everywhere, you could fairly often notice that someone had set up camp in one of the stalls from the coats thrown over the wall and the bags piled up on the floor (which you could see under the divider).
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San Rafael, CA has their "Final Days" sign up. Currently at 50%-70%

Looks like they sent all their Blu-Rays to another store, either that or they got gobbled up.
Old 05-08-11 | 06:06 PM
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Finally bit today on 3 items @ 70% off (Tacoma, WA):

1. Sweet & Hoffs Under the Covers #2 CD $4.80

2. James Cagney Signature Box $15

3. Fanny & Alexander Criterion Box $18

last week a checker told me that the last day or 2 of the sale cd's & dvd's would likely be priced @ $2-$4 for all remainders
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When they closed the stores in the Dallas area all CDs and DVDs (except for Christmas titles) were removed from the closing stores in the final days and sent either to the stores that were staying open or to a distribution center.
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Originally Posted by asianxcore
San Rafael, CA has their "Final Days" sign up. Currently at 50%-70%

Looks like they sent all their Blu-Rays to another store, either that or they got gobbled up.
Yeah, I saw that today. One Criterion at 60% off, the price I can get the Blu-ray at Amazon or BN during a sale.
Old 05-09-11 | 01:45 PM
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Yeah, I saw that today. One Criterion at 60% off, the price I can get the Blu-ray at Amazon or BN during a sale.
Very true.

The only thing I saw that I was curious about was Dogtooth on DVD. Would be $12+ tax after the 60% off and for some reason Amazon still has that sucker at $20.95.
Old 05-21-11 | 01:06 PM
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Just a heads up for anyone in the area, San Rafael, CA Borders is closed now.

I will take a little pleasure in seeing all the freeloaders that frequented that store move 5 minutes down the freeway to Barnes & Noble.
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Well, they found a suitor... the owners of Columbia House and the Book-of-The-Month Club.

Borders agrees to sell itself for $215 million
June 30, 2011 11:44 PM ET
By MAE ANDERSON

(AP) - Borders Group Inc. said late Thursday it agreed to sell itself to private investment firm Najafi Cos. for $215 million and is seeking court approval for the agreement.

Najafi Cos., which owns the Book-of-the-Month Club, will also assume $220 million in debt.

The agreement is tentative and is what is known as a "stalking horse" bid for a company under bankruptcy protection. The bid will open an auction for the company and its assets, so a higher bid is possible.

A bankruptcy court hearing on the deal is set for July 21. Borders, the second largest U.S. traditional book store chain, filed a separate motion to liquidate in case the court does not approve an auction.

Najafi Cos. has been a speculative suitor for the Ann Arbor, Mich.-based company, although Borders has not previously confirmed any specific bidders.

Borders filed for bankruptcy protection in February, hurt by stiff competition from online booksellers and discounters.

A sale provides the "best path forward to reposition the business for a successful future and to maximize value for the Company's stakeholders," Borders said in a statement.

Under terms of the deal, Borders will become part of the business unit of Phoenix, Ariz.-based Najafi Cos. that also owns Book-of-the-Month Club, Doubleday Book Clubs and Columbia House.

Najafi Cos. bills itself as the largest private equity firm in Arizona with more than $1.1 billion in assets. It has investments in restaurant chain Pasta Pomodoro as well as the Phoenix Suns basketball team, for which CEO Jahm Najafi serves as vice chairman.

Borders had said previously in bankruptcy court filings it was in discussions with several potential bidders. It has said it hoped to name a bidder by July 1 and sell itself by the end of July.

Borders, which started with a single store in 1971, helped pioneer the book superstore concept along with larger rival Barnes & Noble Inc. It was brought down by heightened competition by discounters and online booksellers, as well as the growth in popularity of electronic books. It currently operates about 400 stores, down from its peak in 2003 of 1,249 Borders and Waldenbooks.

Borders stressed in a statement that its Borders Rewards program, gift cards and other customer programs all continue to operate normally.

If Borders doesn't successfully sell itself as a complete company, it is asking the bankruptcy court that its assets be sold by a joint venture led by liquidation firms Hilco and Gordon Brothers. Borders is also asking the court to let the two companies liquidate any stores Najafi doesn't acquire in its bid for the company.

Borders expects the sale process will be complete by late July.
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Columbia House?

Kiss Borders good-bye.
Old 07-02-11 | 08:49 AM
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They are being bought out by other dinosaurs going extinct. They will be out in a few years.
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Well it seems nobody thought the Columbia House buy-out was a good idea, so now Borders may be down to weeks as a retailer...

Borders Group Inc. stood on the brink of liquidation after a recent offer for the bookstore chain from a private-equity investor fell apart late Wednesday.

Borders, which employs nearly 11,000 people, designated a group of liquidators as the opening bidders in a looming bankruptcy-court auction amid difficulties getting publishers to relax terms under which they ship merchandise to the U.S.'s second-largest bookstore chain, said people familiar with the matter.

The development raises the prospect that Borders will soon close all its remaining 399 stores and go out of business. No other suitors have so far emerged for Borders ahead of a Sunday bidding deadline.

Borders's deal with the investor, Jahm Najafi, unraveled Wednesday after publishers and landlords owed money from the company complained that his bid would allow him to liquidate the bookstore chain after buying the business.

Mr. Najafi had offered $215 million for Borders, plus an assumption of $220 million in liabilities. The terms allowed him to operate the chain as a going concern or to liquidate the business. A creditors committee said an offer of at least $252 million from a group of liquidators made for a better deal.

Creditors were essentially concerned that Mr. Najafi would pay $215 million in cash for Borders and then liquidate the chain. With that potential scenario lurking, the creditors preferred Borders sell itself to a group of liquidators in a deal they believed would pay them more money ranging between $252 million and $284 million.

They also objected to a $6.5 million break-up fee Mr. Najafi was set to receive if another bidder topped his offer.

Mr. Najafi was willing to drop his liquidation option if publishers agreed to grant him normal trade terms, according to people familiar with the matter.

Some major publishers agreed, but by late Wednesday afternoon a couple hadn't, the people said. At that point, Mr. Najafi signaled he wouldn't alter his terms.

Time was running short, with Borders set to address a bankruptcy judge early Thursday to seek approval of Mr. Najafi's bid and procedures for an auction next week. The bookstore chain pivoted to anointing liquidators as the opening bidders in the auction, set for Tuesday.

In a letter to employees Wednesday, Borders President Mike Edwards said that Mr. Najafi had withdrawn his bid and that liquidators were now circling the company. He told employees he remained hopeful other suitors would emerge to keep Borders in business before next week's auction.

In a statement, Mr. Najafi denied he had withdrawn his bid and said the offer was "no longer supported by the deciding parties." The liquidation bid, his statement said, was "in contrast to what we had envisioned for the future of Borders." Mr. Najafi said he remained willing to move forward with a deal "should the deciding parties instead choose to work with us and our existing offer."

Borders filed for bankruptcy protection in February and has since been bleeding cash and closed more than a third of its stores. Amid mounting losses, the bookstore chain put itself up for sale in a last-ditch attempt to survive.
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