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Old 10-08-06 | 07:25 PM
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He also claims to have seen the PS3 playing BD...and it ain't pretty.
Wow. If that's true then damn, Sony is in BIG trouble. Does he eloborate at all on what's wrong with it?
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Old 10-08-06 | 07:26 PM
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Which thread at AVS, por favor?
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Old 10-08-06 | 07:30 PM
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Wow. If that's true then damn, Sony is in BIG trouble. Does he eloborate at all on what's wrong with it?
Here's what he said:

The PS3 isn't deciding a war. It doesn't stand the chance. For one I've seen it play BDs. The Standalone players do a better job. It didn't impress me at all. It is not as good as the Samsung. I have no reason to lie. Sony doesn't do jack for me. So I don't have to lie to get Sony to pat my head.
It's the Fox thread but his comments start on the last page.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&&#post8609552
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Old 10-08-06 | 07:37 PM
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Damn, his numbers have changed since 9/17:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...42#post8451542

Does this guy ever talk straight?
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Old 10-08-06 | 07:59 PM
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Here's what he said:



It's the Fox thread but his comments start on the last page.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&&#post8609552
Cheers! Thanks for the link. Wouldn't it be funny after all the reports claming the PS3 is the second coming of Christ that it turns out to be one of the worst BD players on the market. But only time will tell.
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Old 10-08-06 | 08:04 PM
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"I think the Mad Max Trilogy is in the works." --- TSD2005

How much I wish he is correct! I also wish he would post on this site as well as AVS.
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Old 10-08-06 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric D.
Cheers! Thanks for the link. Wouldn't it be funny after all the reports claming the PS3 is the second coming of Christ that it turns out to be one of the worst BD players on the market. But only time will tell.
I don't want to judge it too soon. As long as its a decent Blu-ray player I think that will be good enough. Not everyone has the highest quality HT setup so the output from the PS3 may be good enough for the average person interested in getting into Blu-ray. The PS3 is not going to have many people going after it with movies as their main focus. Its just a bonus and Sony probably will hope it will pull people into Blu-ray so they can buy a standalone later.
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Old 10-08-06 | 09:06 PM
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Does this guy ever talk straight?
At this point I'm pretty skeptical of everything said by both sides until the real reviews and announcements are out there. People make all kinds of wild claims.
This thing is even supposed to upconvert DVDs better than anything else
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Old 10-08-06 | 09:53 PM
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I hope Josh wasn't referring to me. He should be around here long enough to know the answer to that.

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Old 10-08-06 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric D.
Cheers! Thanks for the link. Wouldn't it be funny after all the reports claming the PS3 is the second coming of Christ that it turns out to be one of the worst BD players on the market. But only time will tell.
I think even BD fanatics have assumed it will be the worst BD player on the market. Just like the PS2 was one of the worst DVD players ever.
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Old 10-08-06 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
I hope Josh wasn't referring to me. He should be around here long enough to know the answer to that.

Nope. He was talking about TSD2005.

BTW, a few weeks ago he offered a bet to anyone doubting his sources about two studios, LGF and Disney, supporting Hd-dvd by January.

I believe his suggestion was to make it $1K and they would agree to let a neutral AVS member hold the money. No takers yet I guess.
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Old 10-08-06 | 10:28 PM
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Nope. He was talking about TSD2005.

BTW, a few weeks ago he offered a bet to anyone doubting his sources about two studios, LGF and Disney, supporting Hd-dvd by January.

I believe his suggestion was to make it $1K and they would agree to let a neutral AVS member hold the money. No takers yet I guess.
Wow. That's some serious shit.

Has he ever said where he works? I don't believe he has. From what I've read, he's definitely one of the more reliable people on there.

One person that I used to talk with hasn't been around for nearly a week now.

I look forward to finding out more on Wednesday at the meeting. Of course, I won't be able to talk about any of it...but I look forward to it nonetheless.
Amir, Robert (who runs VE) and 2 of Toshiba's HD DVD specialists will be there.
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Old 10-08-06 | 10:36 PM
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Then I must be missing something. If BD fanatics accept the fact the the PS3 will be a the worst BD player, then why are they all claming that it will also be the saviour of the format? Why would people buy movies for a player that looks bad? And why would they then go out and buy a regular player for that format if they were so unimpressed with the PS3 player? It's not like everyone who buys a PS3 will know that there are better BD players out there. Most of those people will just be joe-six-packs who only care about gaming. Why would they then want to invest in a format more expensive than DVD if the difference between the two will hardley be noticable on the PS3? And like someone already posted, most people buying a PS3 won't have great HT setups, so then why would then even go and buy another BD player if it won't look that much different on their HT? I'm confused now as to how the PS3 will save the format like everyone has been saying. Doesn't seem like much of a threat then aside from the fact that you can technically say that "there are a lot of people with BD players in their homes". Or will it be enough to save BD if all those people just bought 1 or 2 films and that's it?
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Old 10-08-06 | 10:39 PM
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Eric,

With all due respect to spiky, I've never heard of any BD fanatic resigning themselves to the PS3 not being all that hot a BD player. I've heard more than one say that the BD playback on the PS3 will be just as good as any of the stand-alone's.
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Old 10-08-06 | 10:49 PM
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Dunno which thread to put this in but I'm going to the NY meet on Wednesday with Amir and Robert at Value Electronics. Pretty sweet.
Any hints/details that you can provide about upcoming HD titles would certainly be welcomed.
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Old 10-08-06 | 11:07 PM
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Any hints/details that you can provide about upcoming HD titles would certainly be welcomed.
I know a meet quite a while ago showed Batman Begins. Who knows what we'll see now. With my luck, it will be Harry Potter which I could give 2 shits about. Regardless, I'll be there for the food, drink, Amir and any hot wife-less HT guys that may show up.

I know no one gave away that Batman info until a while after but, of course, any info that I can share, I will.

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We won't know how the PS3 performs as a playback device until it comes out and we actually can touch it. I'm in it for the HDMI v1.3 support. This will be the first player on the market to support it. And as much as this has been beaten into our skulls, the Cell is a very powerful data processor. As such, it should have no problem dealing with playback.
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Old 10-09-06 | 12:29 AM
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Actually, everything I've heard from BD is that the PS3 will not just be as good as the standalones, but that it will in fact be the best of all the G1 machines. So I think Spiky is confusing what the fanatics say with actual common sense.
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Time for Round 4
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