Go Back  DVD Talk Forum > Entertainment Discussions > Music Talk
Reload this Page >

Music Video Awards....Why ?

Music Talk Discuss music in all its forms: CD, MP3, DVD-A, SACD and of course live

Music Video Awards....Why ?

Old 08-24-13, 08:25 PM
  #26  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Drexl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 16,077
Likes: 0
Received 15 Likes on 13 Posts
Re: Music Video Awards....Why ?

The Grammys and Tonys don't really compare. Those awards were created by other organizations and are just carried by the broadcast networks. The VMAs, on the other hand, were created by MTV at a time when it devoted itself to music, in order to promote the music it showed. So I don't think its unreasonable to ask why they still do it.

But to try to answer the question, I guess they do it because it still gets good enough ratings.
Old 08-24-13, 11:39 PM
  #27  
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
 
TheKing's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: San Antonio, TX
Posts: 8,135
Likes: 0
Received 16 Likes on 8 Posts
Re: Music Video Awards....Why ?

Where you can still find videos:

MTV (usually from 3-9 AM weekdays)
MTV2 (mornings)
VH1 (usually in the morning)
VH1 Classic (various times, includes a new version of 120 Minutes)
Fuse
GAC (Great American Country)
MTV Hits
MTV Jams
VH1 Soul
Tr3s (Spanish music...get it?)
PalladiaHD (Mostly concerts and concert film, not so many videos anymore)
Old 08-24-13, 11:40 PM
  #28  
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,490
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Re: Music Video Awards....Why ?

The only music award shows I watch anymore all have to do with the country circuit. CMAs, ACMs, CMTs...that's it. I gave up on the VMAs about ten years ago, and haven't watched the Grammys in full for at least five.
Old 08-25-13, 12:02 AM
  #29  
DVD Talk Platinum Edition
 
AaronHernandez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Bayside
Posts: 3,133
Received 112 Likes on 88 Posts
Re: Music Video Awards....Why ?

Hey everyone go here http://www.youtube.com/
you can watch any music video ever 24-7
no need to worry about commercials or having to sit through a crap band to get to the good artists

Why doesn't MTV play video complaints if they were a person would be old enough to buy cigs just like the remember when SNL was funny riffs.
Old 08-25-13, 12:41 PM
  #30  
DVD Talk Gold Edition
 
Traxan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,474
Likes: 0
Received 30 Likes on 20 Posts
Re: Music Video Awards....Why ?

^^^ Shouldn't you be in jail?

And we complain about MTV because the name means Music Television and those of us old enough remember when it was constant music, 24/7, and many new bands were discovered that way.
Old 08-25-13, 12:48 PM
  #31  
DVD Talk Hero
 
Troy Stiffler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Under an I-10 Overpass
Posts: 25,786
Received 362 Likes on 262 Posts
Re: Music Video Awards....Why ?

I like Daft Punk.
Old 08-25-13, 01:13 PM
  #32  
DVD Talk Godfather
 
davidh777's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Home of 2013 NFL champion Seahawks
Posts: 52,467
Received 987 Likes on 818 Posts
Re: Music Video Awards....Why ?

Originally Posted by AaronHernandez
Hey everyone go here http://www.youtube.com/
you can watch any music video ever 24-7
no need to worry about commercials or having to sit through a crap band to get to the good artists

Why doesn't MTV play video complaints if they were a person would be old enough to buy cigs just like the remember when SNL was funny riffs.
Well, there are commercials, but only for a few seconds. But yes, YT is where I most often watch music videos.

Here's someone who would say that music videos are still relevant:

Old 08-25-13, 01:42 PM
  #33  
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: San Diego,CA
Posts: 8,051
Received 37 Likes on 22 Posts
Re: Music Video Awards....Why ?

Originally Posted by GuessWho
CBS doesn't show Broadway plays yet their channel broadcasts Tony Awards.
There's a difference. MTV was created as a music video channel, then pretty much ditched that format but continued to have a show about something they used to relate to.
Broadway plays never had their own formatted channel nor did CBS start off as a Broadway play channel. It's not called the CBS Tony Awards.
Old 08-25-13, 01:52 PM
  #34  
DVD Talk Godfather
 
davidh777's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Home of 2013 NFL champion Seahawks
Posts: 52,467
Received 987 Likes on 818 Posts
Re: Music Video Awards....Why ?

Weren't music videos just created as ads for music anyway? Not sure how relevant that still is, but I often check YT along with sound samples as I'm exploring a band.
Old 08-25-13, 05:09 PM
  #35  
DVD Talk Legend
 
JeffTheAlpaca's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: CA
Posts: 23,226
Received 699 Likes on 570 Posts
Re: Music Video Awards....Why ?

Agree with the OP though if they did show videos all the time who on this board would be actually happy with the selection they choose?

It would probably be all Justin Bieber and and boy bands like the Wanted and One Direction and the latest generic rap pop videos.

Palladia should show them.
Old 08-25-13, 08:51 PM
  #36  
DVD Talk Reviewer & TOAT Winner
 
Alan Smithee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: USA
Posts: 10,425
Received 328 Likes on 247 Posts
Re: Music Video Awards....Why ?

I'd rather see MTV show crappy videos than no videos at all. The idea of cable was to give us stuff without worrying about "ratings" or "profitability", just that it was good and what at least some people wanted. There's no excuse for the crap MTV shows now- looking at their schedule I've seen them even show sitcom reruns and movies, not musical ones and probably cut for TV versions at that. Looks like VH-1 Classic is also showing movies and "Married With Children" reruns, and CMT has been showing movies and reality shows. I'm not even a country music fan, but if I were paying for cable I would expect to get country music on a channel called Country Music Television.

"Just go to YouTube" doesn't cut it either- the quality there isn't as good as what you would get from a proper cable signal (which doesn't always happen either, another of many reasons why I don't have cable.) I've collected many of my favorite 80s videos on pre-recorded tapes and laserdiscs, which are miles ahead of anything on YouTube.
Old 08-25-13, 09:49 PM
  #37  
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Raleighwood
Posts: 6,643
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Re: Music Video Awards....Why ?

Originally Posted by Alan Smithee
The idea of cable was to give us stuff without worrying about "ratings" or "profitability", just that it was good and what at least some people wanted.
Where on Earth did you get that idea?
Old 08-25-13, 11:01 PM
  #38  
DVD Talk Hero
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 45,294
Received 1,011 Likes on 803 Posts
Re: Music Video Awards....Why ?

Music Videos on VEVO/YouTube are some of the most viewed videoclips on the net so they're definitely still relevant to an extent. They're generally a little less over the top than they were a decade ago though (or rather, less expensive).

Timerlake's Mirrors won the VMA thing tonight, his video has about 93m views.
Mackelmore's Thrift Shop was nominated, that video has about 406m views.

Psy's Gentleman video got 526m views and Gangnam Style is closing in on 2 billion views (1.748b).

Blurred Lines (Robin Thicke) has about 150m views, unfortunately his vastly superior Unrated version which is the same video, but all the girls are topless, only has about 15m hits.

The Mackelmore video for Same Love was pretty effective.

Maybe a YouTube Video Awards on VH1 next year.
Old 08-25-13, 11:07 PM
  #39  
DVD Talk Gold Edition
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 2,400
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Re: Music Video Awards....Why ?

Did I miss Daft Punk? Saw Gaga, Miley/Thicke, West, Perry, and Mars perform but only saw the robots in the audience and backstage.
Old 08-26-13, 12:47 PM
  #40  
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Conducting miss-aisle drills and listening to their rock n roll
Posts: 20,052
Received 168 Likes on 126 Posts
Re: Music Video Awards....Why ?

Originally Posted by Tom Creo
Did I miss Daft Punk? Saw Gaga, Miley/Thicke, West, Perry, and Mars perform but only saw the robots in the audience and backstage.
They did not perform. They presented an award and that's it.
Old 08-26-13, 01:05 PM
  #41  
DVD Talk Platinum Edition
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 3,107
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Re: Music Video Awards....Why ?

I think the last time I watched the VMAs was when Chris Rock was the host. He did a skit about the security measures in case ODB were to rush the stage.

FYI Wu Tang is for the children!
Old 08-26-13, 05:07 PM
  #42  
DVD Talk Gold Edition
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 2,400
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Re: Music Video Awards....Why ?

Originally Posted by Mabuse
They did not perform. They presented an award and that's it.
So they cancelled Colbert to present an award? What a crock.....on somebody's part. Not sure if it was DP or corporate.
Old 08-26-13, 05:22 PM
  #43  
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: San Diego,CA
Posts: 8,051
Received 37 Likes on 22 Posts
Re: Music Video Awards....Why ?

Thirty Seconds to Mars performed ... When?
I know MTV gave them the Best Rock award BEFORE the show (we all know MTV cant have rock during the show)
Old 08-26-13, 10:36 PM
  #44  
DVD Talk Gold Edition
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 2,353
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Re: Music Video Awards....Why ?

For anyone who has never seen this before, it's pretty accurate, and funny. And this is coming from a guy who is old enough to remember MTV in their glory days.

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/9ysyZF-DZFY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Old 08-26-13, 11:10 PM
  #45  
Banned by request
 
Supermallet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Termite Terrace
Posts: 54,150
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 8 Posts
Re: Music Video Awards....Why ?

Yeah, that about sums it up.
Old 09-01-13, 11:17 PM
  #46  
Banned
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: The lonely depths of my mind
Posts: 3,863
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Re: Music Video Awards....Why ?

Originally Posted by TomOpus
They can't all be Jem, eh?
What are you talking about ? Who mentioned JEM ?
Old 09-01-13, 11:19 PM
  #47  
Banned
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: The lonely depths of my mind
Posts: 3,863
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Re: Music Video Awards....Why ?

Originally Posted by TheKing
Where you can still find videos:

MTV (usually from 3-9 AM weekdays)
MTV2 (mornings)
VH1 (usually in the morning)
VH1 Classic (various times, includes a new version of 120 Minutes)
Fuse
GAC (Great American Country)
MTV Hits
MTV Jams
VH1 Soul
Tr3s (Spanish music...get it?)
PalladiaHD (Mostly concerts and concert film, not so many videos anymore)
We don't get most of those. It's not that we couldn't, it's that they're not available on Comcast, which is the only system available.
Old 09-04-13, 08:32 AM
  #48  
DVD Talk Hero
 
TomOpus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Kansas City, MO
Posts: 40,113
Received 1,287 Likes on 936 Posts
Re: Music Video Awards....Why ?

Originally Posted by Spottedfeather
What are you talking about ? Who mentioned JEM ?
You've mentioned your love for Jem before.

And I thought I was on your Ignore List?

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.