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auto 03-16-14 10:04 PM

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Honestly, researching the last few days, I had no idea records were so cheap. Lots of ten dollar records and thirty dollar records. Don't understand the idea behind the prices differences.

Moopher 03-16-14 10:07 PM

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God dammit...I bought way too many albums this week...and now I have to buy that one as well.

Moopher 03-16-14 11:09 PM

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I can vouch for the upgraditis...as I already want some even better speakers.

Why So Blu? 03-17-14 01:23 AM

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I was blessed that my Onkyo 705 has a phono built in input, so no external amp is required and I've totally incorporated the turntable into my home theater and have the sound coming through a pair of floor standing JBL's and a KLH subwoofer, when I'm feeling saucy. One thing with vinyl and low end reproduction is that it sounds so fucking cool and tight. If I want to cut back on the bass I just hit the switch on the powered subwoofer and let the speakers to the work, but I love bass, so the more the merrier.

BTW, when I bought the Queen vinyl there were only 7 copies left and I see you guys scooped up the rest cuz it's now sold out.

Well done, lads.

Why So Blu? 03-17-14 01:59 AM

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Fuck it, for $7.00 I decided to scoop up Neon Trees - I really like the Lessons in Love track and dat price is right. They have a cool heart shaped vinyl with that single but it's more than $15 shipped, but the novelty rocks:




CRM114 03-17-14 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by auto (Post 12045885)
Ughhh. That looks pretty sweet but is double what I wanted to spend. Grrr...

I'd buy a used unit.

I've been eye-balling that Queen album for a while on Amazon but never pull the trigger because the original is a $5 record and are around fairly often. That's another album I used to have but must have thrown out at some point.

Geofferson 03-17-14 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by MBoyd (Post 12045833)
By the way he also posted recently that the original TRON soundtrack is coming soon.

http://www.analogplanet.com/content/...audio-fidelity

Excited news about the Tron OST - here's the article for the lazy:


Marshall Blonstein's Audio Fidelity Records today inked the deal with The Walt Disney Corporation to release Wendy Carlos's groundbreaking original soundtrack to the 1982 Disney feature "TRON".
The original release crammed fifty plus minutes onto a single LP and didn't do justice to the soundtrack, which analogplanet.com editor Michael Fremer (that's me) supervised.

I am now in Los Angeles for the mastering session that will begin tomorrow at Kevin Gray's Cohearent mastering.

With all eyes were on the visuals—the first use in a major motion picture of computer animation—the equally innovative soundtrack never got it's due. It was originally envisioned to be mostly synthesizer with some "sweetening" via small string section overdubs but because of production delays involving the groundbreaking computer animation and backlit film processing, in addition to some other issues that will discussed in the liner notes I will contribute, we were forced to reverse the original plan and produce a soundtrack that was mostly orchestral, with synthesizer overdubs.

The final soundtrack includes the 108 piece London Philharmonic Orchestra, conducted by Douglas Gamley, with orchestration by the late Jorge Callendrelli recorded at The Royal Albert Hall using a BBC remote crew overseen by the late John Mosley, who devised "Quintaphonic Sound" for the "Tommy" movie soundtrack.

Small string ensembles were recorded during the same UK trip at famed Walthamstow Town Hall, the venue where many famous DECCA classical recordings were produced.

Back in America, the UCLA chorus was recorded at Royce Hall, another famous venue and then Wendy Carlos worked her synthesizer magic during a time before polyphonic synthesizers were available. All of these elements had to be synched together and blended and then synched to the final reels of film. It was a monumental effort that Carlos and her producer AnneMarie Franklin managed brilliantly.

The score deserves another listen in the analog domain by another generation and that will happen when this soundtrack is reissued.

It will also include the songs Journey contributed that strangely sound more like The Police than Journey, for good reasons. But you'll have to wait for the liner notes to read all about it!

Why So Blu? 03-17-14 12:59 PM

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I also noticed that Amazon has the Kiss catalog (most of it anyway) for pre-order at about $34 per LP. The one eye-catcher there is Revenge, which I paid $60 for in blue marble. Don't think I'll fork over the $34 for this new version, though.

CRM114 03-17-14 01:19 PM

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Why not just buy used copies? $34? Ouch.

Why So Blu? 03-17-14 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CRM114 (Post 12047223)
Why not just buy used copies? $34? Ouch.

Not for Revenge. Those are sky high. I got mine from a friend who just happened to get the blue marble edition. He cut me a deal, because he could have totally gotten 2-3 times as much on the 3rd market. Friendly prices, so to speak.

Supermallet 03-17-14 01:29 PM

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Ordered that Queen album. It says temporarily out of stock, but still let me order at the $7.99 price.

And a used turntable could give you more bang for the buck than a new lower end turntable, but it may also need sprucing up, which could cost some $$$, and the point of a new low end turntable is to save money.

When I got my Technics, it was from the original owner who had it since 1979, even came with the original box and instruction manual. I still had to spend some money at a shop getting it recalibrated and replacing some worn out parts. It was totally worth it to me, especially since the one I got was way less than the going rate, but not everyone can go that route the first time out.

Rocketdog2000 03-17-14 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Why So Blu? (Post 12047197)
I also noticed that Amazon has the Kiss catalog (most of it anyway) for pre-order at about $34 per LP. The one eye-catcher there is Revenge, which I paid $60 for in blue marble. Don't think I'll fork over the $34 for this new version, though.

I know, the prices on these KISS albums is outrageous! Even Destroyer:Resurrected didn't cost that much brand new. I would have gone for some of these at perhaps $10 cheaper a pop, but certainly not at the prices they are currently offering.

Like you, I was fortunate enough to get a blue marbled copy of Revenge, but I got it for an absolute steal (like $12 or $15). I believe I told the story here or somewhere else in this forum already, but I'd been looking for a copy, even a black vinyl one, for years before with no luck.

Why So Blu? 03-18-14 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Rocketdog2000 (Post 12047842)
I know, the prices on these KISS albums is outrageous! Even Destroyer:Resurrected didn't cost that much brand new. I would have gone for some of these at perhaps $10 cheaper a pop, but certainly not at the prices they are currently offering.

Like you, I was fortunate enough to get a blue marbled copy of Revenge, but I got it for an absolute steal (like $12 or $15). I believe I told the story here or somewhere else in this forum already, but I'd been looking for a copy, even a black vinyl one, for years before with no luck.

I own the remastered Destroyer vinyl and I paid way under $20 but I bought it from a 3rd market seller brand new. Those 3rd market sellers that have online shops tend to undercut Amazon sometimes, so hopefully when the release date hit these $34 titles will be much lower through those people.

Supermallet 03-18-14 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Rocketdog2000 (Post 12047842)
I know, the prices on these KISS albums is outrageous! Even Destroyer:Resurrected didn't cost that much brand new. I would have gone for some of these at perhaps $10 cheaper a pop, but certainly not at the prices they are currently offering.

Like you, I was fortunate enough to get a blue marbled copy of Revenge, but I got it for an absolute steal (like $12 or $15). I believe I told the story here or somewhere else in this forum already, but I'd been looking for a copy, even a black vinyl one, for years before with no luck.

You did tell that story.

Rocketdog2000 03-18-14 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Why So Blu? (Post 12047893)
I own the remastered Destroyer vinyl and I paid way under $20 but I bought it from a 3rd market seller brand new. Those 3rd market sellers that have online shops tend to undercut Amazon sometimes, so hopefully when the release date hit these $34 titles will be much lower through those people.

True, as with just about any vinyl release and second or third market sellers on Amazon. That said, think I only paid $15 from Amazon directly when it first came out. Granted, it was on sale, but still.

BTW - have you seen this yet?

http://http://www.kissteria.kissonline.com

Typical, over the top fashion for KISS, but all the same, it'd bee pretty sweet to have one of these.

Why So Blu? 03-18-14 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Rocketdog2000 (Post 12047950)
True, as with just about any vinyl release and second or third market sellers on Amazon. That said, think I only paid $15 from Amazon directly when it first came out. Granted, it was on sale, but still.

BTW - have you seen this yet?

http://http://www.kissteria.kissonline.com

Typical, over the top fashion for KISS, but all the same, it'd bee pretty sweet to have one of these.

Yeah, I saw that. Rumor has it it's gonna cost about 10k. At least that's what I read on FB.

Why So Blu? 03-18-14 03:03 PM

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My copy of the new Pretty Reckless album came in today. Blood red vinyl, too!

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k5...ps3a1c15e6.jpg

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k5...pse444c492.jpg

Why So Blu? 03-19-14 04:23 PM

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My Queen: News of the World LP arrived today.

Supermallet 03-19-14 06:03 PM

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Mine shipped today.

Eddie W 03-19-14 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MBoyd (Post 12046315)
It may need some talc powder. I've heard putting some in a ziploc bag with the belt and shaking it around can work. Not ideal I know. You aren't the first uturn owner to report this.

Hey thanks, that worked like a charm!

MBoyd 03-19-14 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Eddie W (Post 12050124)
Hey thanks, that worked like a charm!

Ah good to hear. How are you doing with placing the stylus on the record? That kept me away from this current model. I like to drink too much while playing records. :)

auto 03-19-14 08:45 PM

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What kind of sleeves do you buy and where do you get them?

Why So Blu? 03-19-14 08:47 PM

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I get these outer sleeves, which are basic, but hold up pretty well.

http://www.amazon.com/PLASTIC-OUTER-...=vinyl+sleeves

These are the inner sleeves I use:

http://www.amazon.com/Poly-Lined-Inn...1DRRYEYS3D8JBS

MBoyd 03-19-14 09:43 PM

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I like sleevecityusa.com for their crystal clear sleeves.

Rocketdog2000 03-19-14 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Why So Blu? (Post 12049982)
My Queen: News of the World LP arrived today.

Sweet. My Best Buy order should arrive tomorrow. Got like five records for what two or three of them would have cost normally. Sorry you didn't find anything you liked on the list. Looking forward to spinning Spinal Tap soundtrack and UFO - Lights Out. The others were ones I thought about buying at one time or another, but at the prices I got them for, couldn't afford to pass by any longer.

Eddie W 03-20-14 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MBoyd (Post 12050148)
Ah good to hear. How are you doing with placing the stylus on the record? That kept me away from this current model. I like to drink too much while playing records. :)

That's not really a problem, I've always preferred dropping it manually anyway. What's taking some getting used to is the fact that there is no automatic return, so I have to remember to be right there at the end of a side. They have an automatic tonearm return as an add on & think they're working on stylus cue as well.

Still, at least I can finally play that Sgt Pepper inner groove from my old U.K. import.

Moopher 03-20-14 06:51 PM

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I hate to be the rube once again, but my knowledge of turntables is mostly lacking...but what is the purpose of a stylus cue and the automatic tonearm return?

van der graaf 03-20-14 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Moopher (Post 12051472)
I hate to be the rube once again, but my knowledge of turntables is mostly lacking...but what is the purpose of a stylus cue and the automatic tonearm return?

The first, so you don't have to pick up the needle and place it on the record, just press a button and it does it automatically. The second, so you don't have to pick up the needle at the end of the record (otherwise, it will just sit there while the record spins into eternity) -- the arm picks up and returns to the resting position automatically. Some audiophiles don't like either because they full the more gizmos there are on a turntable, the worse the sound may be (interference, vibration, etc.). I have a pretty decent late-70s Sanyo (Plus Q50) that has those features, but uses a separate motor for the arm and plate, so it isolates any noise from the arm.

Why So Blu? 03-20-14 07:15 PM

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So I just got back from Amoeba with a pretty nice haul of NEW vinyl. As Supermallet said before, you definitely need to coordinate before entering the shop, because once you do, if you don't know what you want, you'll be there forever. It's very overwhelming. I had about $250 of store credit and scored all of this:

Dead Waltz "They Live"
Dead Waltz "Assault on Precinct 13"
Dead Waltz "The Fog" (this might be Blake's Gold Edition, so we'll see when I open it)
"Dredd" Score import
Stone Temple Pilots "Purple"
Shiny Toy Guns "III"
"Halloween" the new 180 gram vinyl


I'll post pictures later. Traffic sucked balls!

I do want to comment and say that the place is literally Empire Records. I've lived in this fucking town all of my life but never actually went inside. As soon as you walk in the smell of weed hits before that one-two punch of funk and piss wash over you. You have people from every walk of life and staff is nice and the customers are nice. I was very impressed. Fuck me, I want to work there!

Moopher 03-20-14 07:22 PM

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Awesome, thanks for the details van der graaf. I had no idea either of those existed. I'm typically in close proximity to my turntable so I don't see myself needing anything like that just yet.

MBoyd 03-20-14 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Moopher (Post 12051499)
Awesome, thanks for the details van der graaf. I had no idea either of those existed. I'm typically in close proximity to my turntable so I don't see myself needing anything like that just yet.

Most newish tables don't have a button to drop the stylus though like the regas! projects! and music halls and even VPIs. Usually it's a dampened arm which I actually like. I didn't think I would, but it's worked well.

Moopher 03-20-14 08:39 PM

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Such a new world for me!

Now, I had this issue just happen and it happened as well yesterday...flicked my U-turn on and it does nothing, doesn't start spinning it anything. Flick it off and back on and it goes...hope I don't have a faulty table. Made sure that power source was snug on both ends as well.

Toddarino 03-20-14 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Why So Blu? (Post 12051490)
So I just got back from Amoeba with a pretty nice haul of NEW vinyl. As Supermallet said before, you definitely need to coordinate before entering the shop, because once you do, if you don't know what you want, you'll be there forever. It's very overwhelming. I had about $250 of store credit and scored all of this:

Dead Waltz "They Live"
Dead Waltz "Assault on Precinct 13"
Dead Waltz "The Fog" (this might be Blake's Gold Edition, so we'll see when I open it)
"Dredd" Score import
Stone Temple Pilots "Purple"
Shiny Toy Guns "III"
"Halloween" the new 180 gram vinyl


I'll post pictures later. Traffic sucked balls!

I do want to comment and say that the place is literally Empire Records. I've lived in this fucking town all of my life but never actually went inside. As soon as you walk in the smell of weed hits before that one-two punch of funk and piss wash over you. You have people from every walk of life and staff is nice and the customers are nice. I was very impressed. Fuck me, I want to work there!

I'm visiting LA for the first time in two months. Amoeba is my second stop after I land.

MBoyd 03-20-14 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Moopher (Post 12051579)
Such a new world for me!

Now, I had this issue just happen and it happened as well yesterday...flicked my U-turn on and it does nothing, doesn't start spinning it anything. Flick it off and back on and it goes...hope I don't have a faulty table. Made sure that power source was snug on both ends as well.

Hmmm, well if you do I hear they are great at addressing issues by email. I've heard of some tables needing a little push on the platter to get going if something is faulty. Usually older vintage models though.

Supermallet 03-21-14 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Why So Blu? (Post 12051490)
So I just got back from Amoeba with a pretty nice haul of NEW vinyl. As Supermallet said before, you definitely need to coordinate before entering the shop, because once you do, if you don't know what you want, you'll be there forever. It's very overwhelming. I had about $250 of store credit and scored all of this:

Dead Waltz "They Live"
Dead Waltz "Assault on Precinct 13"
Dead Waltz "The Fog" (this might be Blake's Gold Edition, so we'll see when I open it)
"Dredd" Score import
Stone Temple Pilots "Purple"
Shiny Toy Guns "III"
"Halloween" the new 180 gram vinyl


I'll post pictures later. Traffic sucked balls!

I do want to comment and say that the place is literally Empire Records. I've lived in this fucking town all of my life but never actually went inside. As soon as you walk in the smell of weed hits before that one-two punch of funk and piss wash over you. You have people from every walk of life and staff is nice and the customers are nice. I was very impressed. Fuck me, I want to work there!

Wait, YOU had never been to Amoeba? Welcome to the world outside that rock you've been living under.

Also, my table is totally manual and I love it. It forces me to pay attention to the record.

Why So Blu? 03-21-14 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Supermallet (Post 12051837)
Wait, YOU had never been to Amoeba? Welcome to the world outside that rock you've been living under.

Also, my table is totally manual and I love it. It forces me to pay attention to the record.


Yep, I got dogged out by everyone when I posted that on my FB page. "You been hiding under rock as big as the planet!" Shit like that. Hey, when everything you ever wanted is at the click of your fingertips why would you go anywhere else and pay almost full retail price for it? Fuck ambience. Then again, now that I know what I know, it's on! If I wasn't in such a hurry to get my stuff I would have stuck around. There were these two chicks who were fine as fuck but I was being a bonehead and didn't take advantage. I could have gotten digits. I shall return with my resume. Me and Amoeba were meant to be.

I think my Audio Technica is also fully automatic (wait, or its manual?) - you're right, it does make you listen to the entire album, so that you can appreciate the music more. I don't fuck with the needle at all. I press play and we're gonna listen to each side completely.



EDIT - Also just noticed that the The Fog and Assault on Precinct 13 LP's are really oversized, so I think I'm going to have to snag some of the outer sleeves that I've used for my LD's. I also need to replenish my supply of inner sleeves. Looks like I'm going Amazon shopping for supplies!

Supermallet 03-21-14 01:57 AM

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The outer sleeves that Amoeba sells are perfect for thick/gatefold/multidisc albums. Not good for standard single-disc records. The inner sleeves don't have any plastic lining so I don't bother with them.

Why So Blu? 03-21-14 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Supermallet (Post 12051919)
The outer sleeves that Amoeba sells are perfect for thick/gatefold/multidisc albums. Not good for standard single-disc records. The inner sleeves don't have any plastic lining so I don't bother with them.

Yeah, I'm gonna see what Amazon has to offer. I still have a bunch of outer sleeves but like three inner sleeves left. I was fortunate that three quarters of the vinyl I got today already had their own deluxe cardboard or thick inner sleeves. I just need some on stand by.

Supermallet 03-21-14 02:55 AM

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These are the inner sleeves I get from Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Nice and thick (but not so thick that you have to dump the original inner sleeve if you wish to keep it), plastic lining. They get the job done.

Why So Blu? 03-21-14 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Supermallet (Post 12051933)
These are the inner sleeves I get from Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Nice and thick (but not so thick that you have to dump the original inner sleeve if you wish to keep it), plastic lining. They get the job done.

Yep, those are the ones I get. Time for a refill.


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