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Okay. I've never posted a picture to a forum before, so here goes. I hope it helps! Do you see the two horizontal little headphone jack looking plugs here? You need them like that. They are the ones in the "Audio" to the right of "Sub Out"

http://i1367.photobucket.com/albums/...psf343c460.jpg

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Basic question: is your receiver set to Phono via the manual controls in the front or via your remote? Switch it to phono if you haven't already.

Your speaker cables (I'm guessing it's the angle) make it seem like they're in reverse polarities.

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For this receiver, for whatever reason, you need these little plugs. Trust me. I sent one back because of this issue. I had the exact problem you're having with the low volume.

I think these are in the bag with the remote, FYI and IIRC.

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Since I now know how to post photos and I'm just sitting here listening to albums anyway, here are a few pics I just took of my TT, speakers, and albums.

http://i1367.photobucket.com/albums/...pswpc24lkd.jpg

http://i1367.photobucket.com/albums/...psdewrr7kp.jpg

http://i1367.photobucket.com/albums/...psopiu8vx6.jpg

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Very nice.

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Right now I'm running everything in FM mode so I have a constant source of sound. And the polarities are definitely right. I think wmermine is on to something, because I never got those jumper plugs in the bag. I just plugged in my RCA cables to loop the sound and now it works perfectly. Thanks a ton everyone!

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I hope it works out. I know firsthand how frustrating that is!

Edit - I'm glad it works now! Enjoy!

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Thanks much, you really dropped the frustration level for me. Great setup, by the way! I'm heading out tomorrow to a piece of furniture to put this all on.

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Thanks! I think my wife got the thing the turntable is on from Target for like $20. The album holder I have is a really nice thing from Pier One she got.

Edit - Let us know how that U-Turn TT is, please.

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Loving all the pics.

Picked up my mondo Here Comes The Devil today. Got a variant. Love the variants but at some point they just kinda seem all alike. The color scheme isn't that much different from the Omen.

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Since we're doing more photos...

https://scontent-a-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/...37906081_n.jpg

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Let me just say I'm very pleased to finally have a 1991 UK pressing of one of the greatest albums of the 1990's: Teenage Fanclub Bandwagonesque.

http://s.pixogs.com/image/R-834529-1259001992.jpeg


Also got a copy of Yo La Tengo's first album, Ride the Tiger, on Coyote Records from 1986.

Good thing I just got a 4x4 and a 2x2 Expedit unit. :)

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Can finally deliver. Heading to Electric Fetus today to hopefully add a few albums to my meager collection.

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c1...psb70aadc8.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c1...ps6111980a.jpg

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Well done, sir!

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I see that there are Omen vinyls but I'm tempted to scoop up the Here Comes The Devil score instead. (from Mondo)

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It is difficult, but I am going to pass on The Omen soundtrack.

Moopher, that is a beautiful setup.

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You need some spread on those speakers.

And looking around at the new wave of vinyl listeners is a sad sight. I can't believe people listen to music on those little portable box turntables. Crosley? Seriously? Complete shit. I guess high fidelity has been lost on the current generation. Get off my lawn.

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Like anything, there will be a range from low end to high end, and people will fall on different points of the spectrum. I'd rather people listen to vinyl on low end tables than not listen at all. In time they may choose to upgrade.

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I wasn't going to get it, but I love that artwork, so I wound up pulling the trigger.

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Thanks for the feedback, guys. I will be spreading my speakers out soon. I actually have much larger speakers coming, I just busted these out in the mean time.

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It's been my experience that the kinds of folks who buy Crosley's, mainly fall into to the categories of casual music fans, who...
- are older, and just want something they can listen to their old records on (my in-laws fall into this category)
- younger people who simply don't know better, and/or don't want to spend a lot of money to be able to listen to records

In either case, neither are seriously audiophiles, and these units are sufficient to serve their purposes . The average person these days just wants an all-in-one system, that is as simple to operate as possible. They have neither the time, money, or inclination to check out all the various levels of turntables, needles, amplifiers, speakers, phono preamps, etc.. It's just too much work for them. No, they'll never get or appreciate the full vinyl listening experience, but they don't really care, either.

That said, anyone who does care can still put together a decent system, even without having to spend a fortune. Hell, mine isn't even top of the line, but it's served me well for over three decades. The base of which is a Technics SL-D202 turntable, a Yamaha CA-810 amplifier (with not one, but three phono inputs), and a pair of Kenwood speaker towers. A bit Frankenstieined, perhaps but it does the job very well, thank you. The only thing I've had to change is the needle every couple of years. I'm fortunate enough to have started be a serious music fan when vinyl was in it's absolute apex, and people still built things to last. I also never got rid of any of my records when CDs took over, nor did I ever stop collecting vinyl.

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I have a Crosley. I bought it for the wife because she liked/likes the "retro" look, and my Technics turntable died so we needed something/anything.

The Crosley is a piece of shit and sounds like complete ass. I've always thought so, but my wife only started to wise up recently. We've agreed to replace it with a better turntable "when we can afford one." That, along with a pair of speakers (I know exactly which ones I want) is a bit too much money to spend right now. Luckily, I have a perfectly good receiver, so I don't need to buy one of those.

I wonder, though, based on the picture posted earlier... isn't it bad to put the turntable right on top of a receiver like that? Doesn't it get too warm when in use? Am I crazy?

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Generally, no, one would not put it directly on top of the amp. Proper ventilation of the amp is a must. I could understand if there was a shelf separating them, but otherwise, you are right. It's a bit of a no-no.

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I didn't like HCTD at all. Sounded flat to me. Have not seen the film. Probably never play it again. Can't believe how much I like blue Sunshine vinyl and hate the movie.

Omen was ordered.

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I've got the movie for review, so I'll wait and see. I don't think it will sell out anytime soon.

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Thanks for the the input guys. This is my first system and while it completely makes sense now that it's been pointed out, I've always seen systems stacked, so I thought that was appropro. I'm gonna knock the middle piece out of the shelf and move the receiver down there. Leaving the turntable on top. Gonna push the bookshelves snug against the middle shelf and put the new speakers (when I get them) on the outside edges to get some real space between them.

Please let me know if there any other taboo things I should be avoiding.

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Yeah, my turntable is integrated into my home theater set-up. I use my main Infinity speakers for playback on it. If I'm feeling saucy I leave the subwoofer on so I can get some extra bass on the record playback. It sounds fantastic.

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This is why they have iPods and Jamboxes. ;)

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I think you're good to go with all of that. :)
Be prepared: your new turntable setup will surely get you to start banging 7's and 8's (maybe even 9's and 10's, bro!).

;)

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:lol:

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I have the 1966 mono and 1966 stereo versions of Dylan's Blonde on Blonde. Last week, I finally got the SACD of Blonde on Blonde. I don't know if I'll ever play those records again. :)

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I've been tempted to get the MFSL box set of Blonde on Blonde. It's three or four 45 rpm discs and apparently it's the best that album has ever sounded.

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I find it hard to believe anything could top the SACD.

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I work at a record store and we sell a lot of Crosleys. They're not very good but they're a good entry level turntable for people new to vinyl. They're cheap and you can walk into a store, buy one and go home and plug and play. No need to look for a set-up. That's what people want.

I've talked with the owner and we've both said that we feel guilty about selling Crosleys to people but it's what people want.

Also, people mostly don't care about sound. They say they want to get into vinyl (mostly they say "vinyls") for the experience. It's the "cool" thing to do now.


This.


You are exactly right. I would say that about 75% of what we sell we sell to kids just getting into vinyl. The other 25% goes to the older folks who are getting back into vinyl.


Yep. This.

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In that case, don't worry about it. ;)

Is the SACD the MFSL version? In that case it would sound the same as the vinyl, more or less.

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The whole Crosley phenomenon is exactly what the owner of the Sound Gallery in Austin is hoping to change. Or at least put a dent in here. It's pretty much part of their entire "mission statement." So far so good. In the past couple of weeks business has been good. They sell more records than anything, but that gets people on the door to see the TTs. And they probably sell on the average a TT a day right now. And I'm going to be working there one or two days a week as long as I can make it work with my new corporate America job.

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The record store I go to sells tons of used turntables and amps - no Crosleys.

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I see Crosley's at a few of my local record stores. The place I've seen them most prominently was at Urban Outfitters at the Mall of America. They had about 6-8 different styles.

I actually bought my dad one of those last year because he doesn't give a shit, he just wanted something he could flip on in his townhouse and listen to all of his old records he hasn't touched in years.

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Kickstarter for integrated amp with phono stage.

This looks interesting. Just saw it in a thread devoted to UTurn on Audiokarma.

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That amp looks awesome. 4 bills, though.