Rockmjd23

That's pretty tame for protest speech. "King George II" was an accepted pejorative for President Bush. I remember Russ Feingold actually calling him that.

Rockmjd23

She is almost certainly a lesbian.

Hiro11

1. I'm not a Republican.
2. This is exactly what I'm talking about. Thanks for the prime example.

Hiro11

Fair enough, those statements are not defensible. However, none of that context was provided, she was simply labled a "mouth foaming Tea Partier", implying that we all just know what those people are like.

Mordred

That's a good point (even if it's a really dumb thing to call the president). The "lunacy" was more referring to the belief that the president secretly wants to destroy America from within, than the childish name calling.

Lt Ripley

If you have any trouble... I'll be on the bridge.

Rockmjd23

Well it makes logical sense. How else could a President destroy America?

foofighters7

that's it Ripley ya dun goofed!

I'm gonna get the Internet poleese (assuming that's gogogoon around here) to backtrace you and we're gonna hunt you down and pee on you simultaneously.

dhmac

Wow. But thinking about it more, out of the main members of the band, Moe Tucker probably had the least to do with the greatest that is VU. Heck, my favorite VU album is "Loaded" which she wasn't even on.

(I still have to wonder what the hell was going through her mind when the VU was performing songs like "Heroin" and "I'm Waiting for the Man")

xraybies

10 shows on her tour have been cancelled by the venues:

http://www.billboard.com/articles/ne...i-gay-comments

That's ok, she can probably still play at the Westboro Baptist Church and Michelle Bachmann rallies.

danfindlay

I'm not a republican either but it is getting extremely God Damned hard to defend the Democratic party as well.

haven't closed guantanimo

haven't got us out of Afghanistan

spending money that we don't have and wont be able to pay back if we don't spend another dime for 50 fucking years

selling out our great grandchildrens sovereignty to china by refusing to protect American industry and manufacturing and suckling at their teat to bankroll our retarded spending

fucked the "rich Americans" by letting the two percent tax credit expire (i guess if you have a roof and ramen noodles you are rich by a politicians standards

continuing the erosion of civil liberties started by the Bush administration and taking it to the next level by going after the internet

not really accomplishing anything regarding gay rights, border security or illegal immigration


We need a good libertarian congress to fix this shit before it's too late.

Also, the Michelle Shocked thing at least worked from the standpoint that I had never heard of her before this.

The Antipodean

Her political views probably changed over the years. Most people's do in some way or another, whether they go more left or more right.

Lastdaysofrain

Especially if they've had a drug or alcohol problem and turn to religion as a replacement.

CRM114

I remember Michelle Shocked for the song Anchorage. She was decent enough but sort of dissolved over the years.

What's "shocking" to me is I always thought she was a liberal, protest singer given album covers like this:



And I never really gave it much thought, but her appearance almost always seemed like a lesbian. No big loss. By the way, does she perform as the blonde housewife now?

CRM114

inri222

It doesn't show the tirade it's just a commentary.

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DRG

Here's a video of an Occupy London event she was at, performing some godawful protest song. According to the video, this happened October 13 of last year, so she clearly still has some of her old liberal leanings (unless the switcheroo happened over the last 5 months).

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Ky-Fi

Hmm...interesting. she seems able to embody the most annoying, unpleasant aspects of both the right and the left. That's quite an accomplishment.

cungar

Well she's obviously changed. She probably went to one of those Christian Ministries that offer a "cure" for homosexuality.

Tarantino

There is this thing called Google, you know.

I made my comment and left, then realized this thread had gotten to three pages

Now it's about politics and the morality of poking your head into threads where you might not belong.

CRM114

If you were alive and in college in the late 80s and 90s, you might have heard of Michelle Shocked. Otherwise, probably not.

Draven

I have a lesbian friend who's also a musician and performed with Shocked back in the day. She says Michelle was as gay as the day is long. So weird to hear about all of this now.

inri222

Denial is a bitch.

LurkerDan

hey, what the hell are y'all doing discussing Michelle Shocked in this thread?

LurkerDan

interesting article: http://music.yahoo.com/blogs/stop-th...005432281.html