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cungar 09-21-11 12:26 PM

R.E.M. is over
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
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Posts: 1,159 R.E.M. breaks up

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"To our Fans and Friends: As R.E.M., and as lifelong friends and co-conspirators, we have decided to call it a day as a band. We walk away with a great sense of gratitude, of finality, and of astonishment at all we have accomplished. To anyone who ever felt touched by our music, our deepest thanks for listening.

R.E.M."

http://remhq.com/news_story.php?id=1446

orangecrush 09-21-11 12:34 PM

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That stinks. Their last 2 albums were a real step up IMO.

cdollaz 09-21-11 01:02 PM

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I didn't care so much for the recent one, but Accelerate was a motherfucker. Sad to see them go.

Poink 09-21-11 01:03 PM

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Always would have thought they would be one of those bands that would go on forever. Even though their best years were far behind them, they never fell into self-parody or put out anything that wasn't at least decent.

One of the very, very few bands that I listened to at age 10 and still listen to at age 30.

Decker 09-21-11 01:04 PM

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WTF? That sucks. I really liked this last album and listen to it quite often.

They've been together, what? 30 years? This is like the proverbial couple who want to wait until their children are all dead before they file for divorce.

cungar 09-21-11 01:18 PM

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Honestly how long do you folks want bands to go on? The Beatles were together for 8 years. They did everything, they did it right and they broke up. Same with Led Zeppelin. REM were my favorite band throughout the 80s but their albums delivered less and less truly original and satisfying moments as the years went on. Personally I found the last two albums listenable but hollow shells of a once great band.

Unfortunately for them, they set such a high standard in the first 15 years of their career, most of us couldn't handle REM just being a very good band. Unfortunately for us, there's no band that ever came close to filling their shoes.

Chrisedge 09-21-11 01:34 PM

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Haven't really liked their albums since Automatic For The People, but always sad to hear about a great (even once great) band hanging their hats up.

They were always fantasic in concert and that is why I am more sad...

auto 09-21-11 01:54 PM

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Sad, as they were my favorite band growing up. We're lucky to have all the great albums they produced over the last 30 years.

cdollaz 09-21-11 02:04 PM

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I kinda wish they would have done a final tour where they let the fans pick some of the setlist.

cungar 09-21-11 02:19 PM

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Final statements:

MIKE

"During our last tour, and while making Collapse Into Now and putting together this greatest hits retrospective, we started asking ourselves, 'what next'? Working through our music and memories from over three decades was a hell of a journey. We realized that these songs seemed to draw a natural line under the last 31 years of our working together.

"We have always been a band in the truest sense of the word. Brothers who truly love, and respect, each other. We feel kind of like pioneers in this--there's no disharmony here, no falling-outs, no lawyers squaring-off. We've made this decision together, amicably and with each other's best interests at heart. The time just feels right."

MICHAEL

"A wise man once said--'the skill in attending a party is knowing when it's time to leave.' We built something extraordinary together. We did this thing. And now we're going to walk away from it.

"I hope our fans realize this wasn't an easy decision; but all things must end, and we wanted to do it right, to do it our way.

"We have to thank all the people who helped us be R.E.M. for these 31 years; our deepest gratitude to those who allowed us to do this. It's been amazing."

PETER

"One of the things that was always so great about being in R.E.M. was the fact that the records and the songs we wrote meant as much to our fans as they did to us. It was, and still is, important to us to do right by you. Being a part of your lives has been an unbelievable gift. Thank you.

"Mike, Michael, Bill, Bertis, and I walk away as great friends. I know I will be seeing them in the future, just as I know I will be seeing everyone who has followed us and supported us through the years. Even if it's only in the vinyl aisle of your local record store, or standing at the back of the club: watching a group of 19 year olds trying to change the world."

Supermallet 09-21-11 02:25 PM

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Nice to see them walking away without a big fight. Also, I haven't enjoyed their ouput since Up, so to me this is no big loss. Their awesome records will always be around for us to listen to.

dvdjunkie32 09-21-11 02:32 PM

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Good for them. They have put out a ton of music, and could be burned out creatively. Very few bands stick together that long.

CRM114 09-21-11 02:57 PM

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Still love their first 4-5 albums immensely. They were one band with whom I didn't get their musical progression.

It seemed inevitable since Peter Buck seems to pop up on every other album I listen to. :lol:

NoirFan 09-21-11 03:30 PM

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Not a fan of much post-Automatic, though I did like a couple of the songs on Around the Sun - "Leaving New York" and "The Outsiders". Probably my favorite band growing up. Elliptical, haunting lyrics set to gorgeous melodies - what's not to love?

dvduser6 09-21-11 03:49 PM

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I admit this is a band I hadn't followed for many years. Earlier this year I started to pick up some of the reissues from their catalog and found a while new respect for them. Sorry to see them go, but at least it was on amicable terms and I'm sure well continue to see some creative output from Stipe and Buck in some form or fashion.

cungar 09-21-11 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by NoirFan (Post 10932754)
Not a fan of much post-Automatic, though I did like a couple of the songs on Around the Sun - "Leaving New York" and "The Outsiders". Probably my favorite band growing up. Elliptical, haunting lyrics set to gorgeous melodies - what's not to love?

Elliptical lyrics?

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NoirFan 09-21-11 04:08 PM

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Hixx 09-21-11 04:36 PM

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Seems like a good idea to me, go out while they were still creatively vital to some degree. Really though they hadn't been relevant to the majority of the music listening public in a long time.

As far as the post Bill Berry years go though, I will say that Up is a very underrated album IMO.

Ky-Fi 09-21-11 04:43 PM

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Eh, I don't really get the whole "it's over" thing. If you're all still friends and have a nice working relationship, why make a decision to break up? I can see taking an indefinite hiatus if people want to do other things in their lives besides making records and touring, but why rule out EVER doing anything as REM again?

cungar 09-21-11 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Hixx (Post 10932842)
Seems like a good idea to me, go out while they were still creatively vital to some degree. Really though they hadn't been relevant to the majority of the music listening public in a long time.

As far as the post Bill Berry years go though, I will say that Up is a very underrated album IMO.

I'll have to give Up! another listen. I haven't listened to it in a decade. I remember Walk Unafraid being absolutely amazing live when I saw them at the Greek Theatre but the rest kind of faded from memory. Although I do agree that Up! was much better than Reveal or Around the Sun.

reubs82 09-21-11 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Poink (Post 10932538)
Always would have thought they would be one of those bands that would go on forever. Even though their best years were far behind them, they never fell into self-parody or put out anything that wasn't at least decent.

One of the very, very few bands that I listened to at age 10 and still listen to at age 30.

Same here. I listened to the cassette for Green over and over; Monster was the first CD I ever bought; and I go back to Murmur at least a few times a month with a modest sprinkling of their other albums here and there.

As a Georgia boy, they've been my band for as long as I can remember. It's a bittersweet day...

windom 09-21-11 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ky-Fi (Post 10932847)
Eh, I don't really get the whole "it's over" thing. If you're all still friends and have a nice working relationship, why make a decision to break up? I can see taking an indefinite hiatus if people want to do other things in their lives besides making records and touring, but why rule out EVER doing anything as REM again?

There's got to be some money in announcing it. It gets them in the press and probably causes some people to start buying their music again. They can also release a new greatest hits set from their whole lifespan. Plus absence makes the heart grow fonder, so if they decide to have a reunion tour or even put out another album after awhile there will probably be higher demand.

cungar 09-21-11 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by windom (Post 10932907)
There's got to be some money in announcing it. It gets them in the press and probably causes some people to start buying their music again. They can also release a new greatest hits set from their whole lifespan. Plus absence makes the heart grow fonder, so if they decide to have a reunion tour or even put out another album after awhile there will probably be higher demand.


Maybe I'm naive but I just don't get that feeling from these guys. You never know what the future holds but every step of their career they've shown such integrity and dedication to the music I don't see them doing this for a cynical reason like selling albums (which I doubt will happen anyway). Personally I don't see them ever reuniting again.

SkullOrchard 09-21-11 06:37 PM

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I've been a fan since Chronic Town. I love the IRS years. Everything since AFTP has been somewhat subpar, but still worthwhile. They remain one of my favorite bands. My biggest problem with them in recent years is that everything they release is too damn loud. Overly compressed reissues, as well as new releases that are brickwalled to the point of being almost unlistenable.

It's been an interesting 30 years.

Thanks for all the great music, guys. Mediocre R.E.M. is still better than 90% of the stuff that's been released during the past three decades.

Eddie W 09-21-11 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SkullOrchard (Post 10932963)
everything they release is too damn loud. Overly compressed reissues, as well as new releases that are brickwalled to the point of being almost unlistenable.

Same here. I really wanted to like their last two albums, and I can tell there are some good songs there. But I just can't listen to them because it's so fatiguing. Hopefully once the loudness wars have been lost, someone with some sense will go back and re-mix these. Sad thing is R.E.M. used to have some of the best sounding albums out there.

freshticles 09-21-11 07:17 PM

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Thank god and good riddance. Now if Nickelback and U2 would just follow suit, I could turn a radio again.

cungar 09-21-11 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Eddie W (Post 10933006)
Same here. I really wanted to like their last two albums, and I can tell there are some good songs there. But I just can't listen to them because it's so fatiguing. Hopefully once the loudness wars have been lost, someone with some sense will go back and re-mix these. Sad thing is R.E.M. used to have some of the best sounding albums out there.

Blame Jacknife Lee.

cungar 09-21-11 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by freshticles (Post 10933009)
Thank god and good riddance. Now if Nickelback and U2 would just follow suit, I could turn a radio again.

Says the guy whose diverse musical tastes include:

Metallica - Disposable Heroes
Have Heart - The Machinist
Dangers - Stay-At-Home Mom
Def Leppard - Rocket
Rise Against - Faint Resemblance
Graf Orlock - A Waste Of Ammo
Capital - Goth N Roll
Anthrax - A.I.R.
Bad Religion - The Grand Delusion
Shelter - When 20 summers Pass

Guru Askew 09-21-11 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by freshticles (Post 10933009)
Thank god and good riddance. Now if Nickelback and U2 would just follow suit, I could turn a radio again.

The cool thing is, once a band breaks up the classic rock stations immediately get an iron-clad order to stop playing their music.

milo bloom 09-21-11 09:26 PM

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While it is sad to see them go, perhaps it is best they go out peacefully and without the screaming and lawsuits and tabloids, etc.

I still enjoy the heck out of their catalog, and I will for the rest of my life.

Applejack 09-21-11 09:55 PM

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I had to check to see that this thread wasn't bumped from 1998 :)

In all seriousness though, it is sad to see them go. Murmur is an excellent album, and while I think they could be a little inconsistent, they a lot of great singles and 5-6 albums that I really enjoy.

nodeerforamonth 09-21-11 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by cungar (Post 10932562)
Unfortunately for them, they set such a high standard in the first 15 years of their career, most of us couldn't handle REM just being a very good band. Unfortunately for us, there's no band that ever came close to filling their shoes.

Speak for yourself. I always thought REM was boring.

I'll take early/mid-period Replacements any day.

Or Slayer, for that matter.

dolphinboy 09-21-11 11:46 PM

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While it wasn't as good as AFTP, I don't know why so many people dismiss Monster and especially New Adventures in Hi-Fi. I know the former has many critics, but the latter is a terrific album, certainly not subpar, and if it has a song that you need to FF past, I can't think of it off hand.

Sitting Still and Disturbance at the Heron House are my two favorite REM songs. To this day, I still don't know for sure what the exact lyrics to Sitting Still are, so I sing what I think it is...probably just like Michael does.

Glad that I got to see them one time in my life.

Supermallet 09-21-11 11:47 PM

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New Adventures is their last great album. Up was very good, though.

Daytripper 09-21-11 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by cungar (Post 10933028)
Says the guy whose diverse musical tastes include:

Metallica - Disposable Heroes
Have Heart - The Machinist
Dangers - Stay-At-Home Mom
Def Leppard - Rocket
Rise Against - Faint Resemblance
Graf Orlock - A Waste Of Ammo
Capital - Goth N Roll
Anthrax - A.I.R.
Bad Religion - The Grand Delusion
Shelter - When 20 summers Pass

Not to mention, his God is lower case g. And if Nickelback and U2 would just follow suit, he could turn a radio again!? What does that mean, turn it East, West, North or South? And if he means turning on a radio again, what station plays R.E.M. these days. Let alone U2. I know most still play Nickleback.

Supermallet 09-22-11 12:03 AM

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I think we can all agree that Nickelback needs to die a long, horrible death.

freshticles 09-22-11 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by cungar (Post 10933028)
Says the guy whose diverse musical tastes include:

Metallica - Disposable Heroes
Have Heart - The Machinist
Dangers - Stay-At-Home Mom
Def Leppard - Rocket
Rise Against - Faint Resemblance
Graf Orlock - A Waste Of Ammo
Capital - Goth N Roll
Anthrax - A.I.R.
Bad Religion - The Grand Delusion
Shelter - When 20 summers Pass

That's pretty diverse, fella. Based on the fact that you love REM so much you decided to angrily search through my 2 year old posts for ammo, I doubt you've even heard half of this. Plus that was my old 4 gb ipod. You'd be blown away at the diversity of my 15 gbs of music on my fancy Iphone4....blown away...


Originally Posted by Daytripper (Post 10933270)
Not to mention, his God is lower case g. And if Nickelback and U2 would just follow suit, he could turn a radio again!? What does that mean, turn it East, West, North or South? And if he means turning on a radio again, what station plays R.E.M. these days. Let alone U2. I know most still play Nickleback.

Oops, I forgot a word. You're right it was 'on'. Also, isn't god a lower case 'g' if you don't believe in it? REM still gets played to death on the radio up here. I also used to work at a job about 10 years ago where one of the managers would blast REM and U2 all morning, every day. It just reminds me of getting up early and having to travel 45 mins to get to a job I hated. No big deal. You REM fans are an angry bunch!

PS - I also heard with the news, Michael Stipe released some naked arty video of himself. Surprised there's no talk of that here.

atlantamoi 09-22-11 04:49 AM

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I can remember back in '91 R.E.M. being interviewed and how they said they thought they would probably break up on New Year's Eve 1999. My memory might not be accurate, but the thought made me very sad.
FF 20 years and I just don't care. Such a weird feeling when those IRS albums meant the world to me back in the 80's. It's hard to explain what it was like spinning those records on college radio back then, especially in the South. Murmur was such an odd listen back in '83. I can trace my first disappointment with R.E.M. right to the Warner Bros. releases (Green was kind of a bummer) and not really caring anymore with the post-Up work. The last two albums were not that bad, but I kind of went out of my way to listen to them. Good to read Buck saying he'll be at club shows watching 19-year-olds try to change the world.

JAA 09-22-11 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by orangecrush (Post 10932489)
Their last 2 albums were a real step up IMO.

:thumbsup:

Sad, but a truly great band that finished their career in a very strong manner and with class.

CRM114 09-22-11 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by dolphinboy (Post 10933263)
While it wasn't as good as AFTP, I don't know why so many people dismiss Monster and especially New Adventures in Hi-Fi. I know the former has many critics, but the latter is a terrific album, certainly not subpar, and if it has a song that you need to FF past, I can't think of it off hand.

Sitting Still and Disturbance at the Heron House are my two favorite REM songs. To this day, I still don't know for sure what the exact lyrics to Sitting Still are, so I sing what I think it is...probably just like Michael does.

Glad that I got to see them one time in my life.

REM lost me when they went all electric and noisy. THat might be an over simplification of their sound but for me, it was about beautiful, folk melodies. Fables of the Reconstruction for example. After a while, they went all stadium on me.


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