View Poll Results: How do you like Metallica's Death Magnetic?
Amazing album! They're back.
60
63.83%
Meh, its ok.
26
27.66%
Crap. They need to hang it up.
8
8.51%
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Death Magnetic: Like it or not?
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Kill 'Em All - 9/10
Ride The Lightning - 9/10
Master Of Puppets - 10/10
And Justice For All - 9/10
Black Album - 8/10
Load - 7/10
Reload - 7/10
St. Anger - 5/10
Death Magnetic - 8/10
Ride The Lightning - 9/10
Master Of Puppets - 10/10
And Justice For All - 9/10
Black Album - 8/10
Load - 7/10
Reload - 7/10
St. Anger - 5/10
Death Magnetic - 8/10
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Well 95% or so think its either ok or amazing, so thats an improvement. A strong 69%-70% think its amazing. I've seen similar response elsewhere on the web, I think its safe to say overall the band will do very well with this release.
Looking forward to seeing their show in Boston in January!
Looking forward to seeing their show in Boston in January!
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If you listen to everything in order, the Black Album is so out of place after "And Justice...", it's not even funny. And if you did what I did, buy all the albums on release date and trade for every single bootleg via snail mail as they became available over the years (i.e. meaning did a TON of listening to Metallica from '83-'89), the change in pace and song structure of the Black Album is WAY out of place. Like every album since "Ride...", I bought the Black Album the day it came out (was a month or two late on "Kill 'Em All"). Except for "Enter Sandman" which I think was great, I thought the album sucked and returned it the next day to get my money back.
St. Anger WAS a "return to their roots" (well... minus the guitar solos). It was a return to 8 minute songs with tempo changes and song structures. It's just that that damn snare drum and HORRIBLE production killed that album. (All my ratings were based on song quality, not production)
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Huh? Me? I'm open minded. One bad album (or in Metallica's case, IMO, 4 bad albums in a row) does not negate everything else a band has ever done. And in Metallica's case, even though they had some really bad albums (Black Album, Load, Reload, S&M, etc...), they always had enough there to keep me interested (b-sides, live shows, "Garage Inc", etc...) and coming back in hopes for another good album. And they did so with "Death Magnetic".
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The Black Album was a very jarring change for them.
I spent 1988-1991 learning and playing every Metallica song I could at home and with my band. After investing myself that much into the band it was pretty tough to swallow a song like "Enter Sandman".
The Black Album is a good record IMO and it definitely comes across better in hindsight given what came after, but at the time most serious Metallica fans were pretty put off, at least the ones I knew. Hell I remember when the "One" video came out people already suspected a "sellout", and the Black album seemed to confirm it in spades. All of a sudden everyone and their cousin was a casual Metallica fan.
I still think St. Anger is a steaming pile though, and don't think it has much of anything in common with the 80's stuff.
I spent 1988-1991 learning and playing every Metallica song I could at home and with my band. After investing myself that much into the band it was pretty tough to swallow a song like "Enter Sandman".
The Black Album is a good record IMO and it definitely comes across better in hindsight given what came after, but at the time most serious Metallica fans were pretty put off, at least the ones I knew. Hell I remember when the "One" video came out people already suspected a "sellout", and the Black album seemed to confirm it in spades. All of a sudden everyone and their cousin was a casual Metallica fan.
I still think St. Anger is a steaming pile though, and don't think it has much of anything in common with the 80's stuff.
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St. Anger WAS a "return to their roots" (well... minus the guitar solos). It was a return to 8 minute songs with tempo changes and song structures. It's just that that damn snare drum and HORRIBLE production killed that album. (All my ratings were based on song quality, not production)
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I actually liked St. Anger from the beginning. I was actually really shocked when I read so much negative reviews about it. I guess it was just a welcomed change to me, but not for others. The odd production value made the record unique to me.
Death Magnetic gets better after every listen.
Death Magnetic gets better after every listen.
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There is kinda: www.allmusic.com
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Sooner or later, a metal band is going to cover something from St. Anger, and show that they are good songs, just poorly recorded.
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Easily.
If you listen to everything in order, the Black Album is so out of place after "And Justice...", it's not even funny. And if you did what I did, buy all the albums on release date and trade for every single bootleg via snail mail as they became available over the years (i.e. meaning did a TON of listening to Metallica from '83-'89), the change in pace and song structure of the Black Album is WAY out of place. Like every album since "Ride...", I bought the Black Album the day it came out (was a month or two late on "Kill 'Em All"). Except for "Enter Sandman" which I think was great, I thought the album sucked and returned it the next day to get my money back.
St. Anger WAS a "return to their roots" (well... minus the guitar solos). It was a return to 8 minute songs with tempo changes and song structures. It's just that that damn snare drum and HORRIBLE production killed that album. (All my ratings were based on song quality, not production)
If you listen to everything in order, the Black Album is so out of place after "And Justice...", it's not even funny. And if you did what I did, buy all the albums on release date and trade for every single bootleg via snail mail as they became available over the years (i.e. meaning did a TON of listening to Metallica from '83-'89), the change in pace and song structure of the Black Album is WAY out of place. Like every album since "Ride...", I bought the Black Album the day it came out (was a month or two late on "Kill 'Em All"). Except for "Enter Sandman" which I think was great, I thought the album sucked and returned it the next day to get my money back.
St. Anger WAS a "return to their roots" (well... minus the guitar solos). It was a return to 8 minute songs with tempo changes and song structures. It's just that that damn snare drum and HORRIBLE production killed that album. (All my ratings were based on song quality, not production)
as for st anger...so return to form is good even though the songs were awful? no it wasnt just the snare and production the cd sucked major ass.
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as for st anger...so return to form is good even though the songs were awful? no it wasnt just the snare and production the cd sucked major ass.
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And the remix of "Some Kind Of Monster" (i.e. the edit version) that Bob Rock actually produced in the style of his previous work was pretty great! I wish he would just redo the whole album like that.
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Thankfully Death Magnetic, even with its production issues is light years better than the sound they went for in St Anger.
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No shit. The "No Life Til Leather" demo, when they were REALLY a garage band, sounds light years better than "St Anger".
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Death Magnetic is really growing on me. I liked it when I first put it on, but now I'm listening to it about every other day.
I am sure there will be many that vehemently disagree, but the Black album really was the beginning of the period where they lost me.
The first three Metallica albums were hands down, classics that defined a genre. They were hungry musicians with something to prove. This hunger showed in their music. They were angry, aggressive and laid the foundation for a slew of copycat bands through the 80's.
After the success of And Justice For All, they lost their edge imho. Yes, there are some great songs on the Black album, but they are mostly mid tempo, slow and lyrically unimaginative. The "crunch" is what I loved about them.
I completely lost interest in them for Load and enjoyed Fuel from Re-load. I loved the garage album and thought St. Anger was a disaster.
The new album really strikes me as the next step after Justice. Improved vocals, some speed tunes, some epic songs and overall, something to prove.
I am sure there will be many that vehemently disagree, but the Black album really was the beginning of the period where they lost me.
The first three Metallica albums were hands down, classics that defined a genre. They were hungry musicians with something to prove. This hunger showed in their music. They were angry, aggressive and laid the foundation for a slew of copycat bands through the 80's.
After the success of And Justice For All, they lost their edge imho. Yes, there are some great songs on the Black album, but they are mostly mid tempo, slow and lyrically unimaginative. The "crunch" is what I loved about them.
I completely lost interest in them for Load and enjoyed Fuel from Re-load. I loved the garage album and thought St. Anger was a disaster.
The new album really strikes me as the next step after Justice. Improved vocals, some speed tunes, some epic songs and overall, something to prove.
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this album sounds like it was made for one thing... "Guitar Hero III".
the lyrics are hardly evident and i am one for good lyrics that i can cling to. the black album is probably one of my favs of all time and this doesn't come close. i was really looking forward to "Unforgiven III" after loving the first two, but this one was very forgetable.
it is deftly made however, just not my cup.
the lyrics are hardly evident and i am one for good lyrics that i can cling to. the black album is probably one of my favs of all time and this doesn't come close. i was really looking forward to "Unforgiven III" after loving the first two, but this one was very forgetable.
it is deftly made however, just not my cup.
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I have had a chance to listen to the album several times and it has grown on me. The riffs do have a late '90s thrash feel to them so the album would seem to fit between Justice and the Black Album. I have heard the Guitar Hero 3 versions and they are way better. I will vote "amazing" in the poll but it is a sad realization that this is probably as good as gets for Metallica.
BTW, I have heard several riffs being used for background music in sports highlight clips.
BTW, I have heard several riffs being used for background music in sports highlight clips.
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Kill'em All - 9/10
Ride the Lightning - 10/10
Master of Puppets - 10/10
...And Justice for All - 9/10
Metallica - 4/10
Load - 3/10
ReLoad - 2/10
St Anger - -0/10
Death Magnetic - 6/10
Ride the Lightning - 10/10
Master of Puppets - 10/10
...And Justice for All - 9/10
Metallica - 4/10
Load - 3/10
ReLoad - 2/10
St Anger - -0/10
Death Magnetic - 6/10