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Old 05-04-08 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Suprmallet
It was like they went from the world's most visionary post-punk band to the world's most sanctimonious bar band overnight.
I generally agree with that, although instead of "overnight", I would probably argue that it started with the direction they decided to go in with Joshua Tree. I'm not that big a fan of Joshua Tree for this reason, but I definitely agree that the injection of Americana into U2 was done more subtly and tastefully with Joshua Tree, whereas it became crude, clumsy and obnoxious with Rattle and Hum.
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Kind of groan when I hear the spoken intro to Helter Skelter. I think I have a thick skin for Bono's, um, arrogance... but even that is icky (stealing back the song for the Beatles).
SUCH a rough way to start off the album.
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And before we move on to Achtung Baby, I just want to further make my case as to the decline of Bono's lyrics at this stage.

From Unforgettable Fire, 'A Sort of Homecoming' :

And you know it's time to go
through the sleet and driving snow
across the fields of mourning to a light that's in the distance




From Rattle and Hum, 'Desire' :

Lover, I'm on the street
Gonna go where the bright lights
And the big city meet
With a red guitar...on fire
Desire


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Very different songs with different purposes.
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I don't consider it a proper album, but there is some very good original stuff on there (All I Want Is You, Hawkmoon, Angel Of Harlem, Heartland), and some crap (When Love Comes To Town, Love Rescue Me).
It is funny you say that because for some reason When Love Comes to Town is the song I have listened to most from this album. I know it isn't the best song on the record, but I still play it the most.
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Released: 1991

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1. Zoo Station
2. Even Better Than The Real Thing
3. One
4. Until The End Of The World
5. Who's Gonna Ride Your Wild Horses
6. So Cruel
7. The Fly
8. Mysterious Ways
9. Tryin' To Throw Your Arms Around The World
10. Ultra Violet (Light My Way)
11. Acrobat Listen Listen
12. Love Is Blindness

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Steve Lillywhite Producer, Mixing
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Old 05-09-08 | 04:41 PM
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This was a very smart move by U2. I was a little worried after Rattle and Hum, but this pup redeemed that in spades. It's my 2nd favorite album, slightly behind Joshua Tree. The whole European feel is exactly what they should have done and it obviously registered with their fans.
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I'll throw in my two cents for the first time in this thread.

Achtung Baby was the third U2 album I listened to (first was "All That You Cant" and second was "Joshua Tree"). Granted I had heard the singles off this (Even Better and Mysterious Ways) but it wasn't until I listened to the entire album that it became part of my Trilogy of favorite U2 albums (Boy, Achtung, All That).

I think with this album though, the hits have really aged and sound very 90s but their not so much hits on this album (Zoo Station, The Fly, Love is Blindness) are just as fresh today.

However I do have to jump of the "ONE" is one of U2s best songs (especially played live).

By the way, great thread and thanks for starting off with my FAVORITE band! Hopefully one covering "The Boss" is soon to follow.

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Old 05-10-08 | 02:00 AM
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I recall buying AB on CD (my first U2 CD - all the previous U2 I had were on vinyl/cassette) the day it came out, taking it to my dorm and listening to it uninterrupted, from beginning to end on headphones. I had only heard "The Fly" previously, and for the most part I liked the album, but I remember being especially moved by "One" - of course this was the first time I had heard it and before it had gotten any radio play, but it stood out right away - that opening riff is really special, and the song is certainly one of the best things U2's ever done.
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What a fantastic album.
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Favorite tracks: Ultraviolet, Who's Gonna Ride Your Wild Horses, Acrobat, The Fly.

The only track on the album I never cared much for was Mysterious Ways.
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After being a bit down on U2 after the spectacular flop that was R&H (which, actually I find to be a really fun listen now - if only because of its faults) this album got me back into U2. From the moment that Zoo Station begins they had me back again. A couple of great singles but a solid album all the way through. Probably the last U2 album I really loved.
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i can't emphasize how much i love this album. when thinking about my favorite albums of all time, this one has been #1 for many years. i think without the success of this album, we wouldn't have U2 around to still enjoy 17 years later.
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This was exactly the kind of album U2 needed to release after Rattle and Hum. Turning their back on Americana and broad, sweeping statements, the band became musically and lyrically insular. The opening of Zoo Station is one of the best opening moments on any album, and the song quality never dips below "excellent" at any point. The album is impeccably paced, with each track leading into the next perfectly.

I love the paradigm shift that occured with this album. U2 weren't afraid of embracing their popularity, and used it to make an album that was emotionally challenging, and a stage show that was all spectacle. More importantly, the music is inspired and their ambitions are beautifully realized. No missteps here. The best album U2 ever recorded, and their second and final masterpiece.

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Originally written by Maddox of "The Greatest Page In The Universe" fame. But I agree fully.

The eleven worst songs of 2004.
Narrowing down the worst songs of 2004 to a mere eleven was possibly the hardest thing I've ever done. What, with Jessica Simpson's "ReJoyce" Christmas-exploitation album, Lindsay Lohan's aural holocaust, "Speak," and Celine Dion's pretentious bullshit "Miracle," and by the way, I didn't think it was possible for me to hate Celine Dion anymore than I already did until I saw the cover of her newest album and accompanying calendar for the modern "grrrl power" super-bitch who finds solace in Dion's brash self-righteous smuggery. Alas, I used some restraint and narrowed the list down to eleven. Here they are:

1. How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb - U2 - Vertigo

The only thing worse than U2 is a snobby U2 fan. They think they're so hip now that U2 has their own iPod commercial. Wow, you're on an iPod commercial?

Other than the shitty song (which I'll get to shortly), the U2 Vertigo commercial uses the same black silhouette style as every other iPod commercial with one exception: Bono's face (the lead singer) is visible along with the rest of the band. Every iPod commercial was the same until U2 came along and took a shit on convention.

As sanctimonious as U2 tries to be, the reason their faces are lit during the commercial isn't because they're larger-than-life rock stars, but rather, because they're not. When was the last time U2 had a hit? Or a flop? Or anything for that matter? Their last major release was in 2000, an album which was so inconsequential that merely labeling it as such bumps it into a lesser category of sucktitude (but just barely, so eat shit). If their faces weren't lit up, nobody would know who they were except for the most diehard U2 fans, and nobody cares what they think.

As for the "Vertigo" song itself, it's a mix of twangy guitars, unnecessary spanish, and Bono's stupid glasses. By the way, just because a singer wears stupid goggles doesn't mean that they're suddenly cool or hip. Oooh look! Bono the rock star is wearing redneck Nascar goggles, let's all fellate him for being so rebellious; take that Hollywood! They're still the same goggles that dumbass Nascar fans wear to every boring Nascar "event." Man I hate Nascar. And while I'm at it, here's a quick open letter to the NASCAR community: quit writing poems about Dale Earnhardt. Nobody cares. And no, it wasn't NASCAR's fault for not making the tracks wide enough. Nobody would watch NASCAR if it weren't for the wrecks because it's BORING. You love the wrecks because it gives you people something to talk about in your boring lives; don't get all teary eyed when one of your redneck heroes bites it, you hypocritical turds. The wall won, get over it.

Anyway, back to Vertigo: this song sucks so much because of the unique tag-team trio of shitty music, the forced chic of iPod ads, and its stupid fan base. I looked around on some U2 message boards to see what the fans were saying about this song and its turgid lyrics, here's what fan member "Bob" has to say:

Vertigo actually has some seriously heavy lyric - but I bet most of mainstream radio listeners will never know what they mean - I love that! It makes me feel priviledged [sic] to know what the man has to say - there are so many invaluable messages in their albums, certainly this one will be another thought provoking and life influencing scripture.
Here's a sample of the "seriously heavy lyrics" in Vertigo:

WoooAoo! WoooAoo! WoooAoo! WoooAoo!
And who could forget this poignant verse:

Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah,
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.

Yeah, real heavy lyrics, dipshit. When Bono's not mumbling like an idiot, he's trying to be emotional by flailing his arms in the air like he's so overcome that he can't help but bellow out a limp-dick line like "I can feeeeEEEEEEeeeeeel." Pussy.

2. How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb - U2 - Miracle Drug

Coming in at #2 is "Miracle Drug" from the same album. When this album first came out, people wouldn't shut up about the hype that "U2 has made a triumphant return to its rock and roll roots." Triumphant? What exactly has U2 "triumphed" over? The only thing triumphant about U2 is their uncanny ability to produce the same cookie cutter sound that's slowly crippling originality and innovation on airwaves around the world. Congratulations you hacks, you've made FM radio unlistenable.

Bono is 44. He's too old to "rock." I know people have been saying the same thing about Rolling Stones for years now, and every time the Rolling Stones go on tour, they prove their critics right. Give it a rest. I don't even blame U2 for this, it's you stupid fans. Maybe they'll stop annoying us with obnoxious commercials if you morons would stop lapping this shit up like anti-freeze at a petting zoo.

Yet another fan on a message board had this to say about "Miracle Drug:"

I think that Bono turns pop culture upside down with the line "I've had enough of romantic love."
Wow, how profound. Look out pop-culture! Bono has had enough of "romantic love." Here comes Bono and his idiotic fans to make ambiguous jabs at you.

3. How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb - U2 - Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own

zzZZZZZzz.... YAWN. So let me get this straight: U2's "triumphant return to its rock and roll roots" includes a teary song about his dad's struggle with cancer? Rock on you frauds.

4. How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb - U2 - Love And Peace Or Else

If there was a list of things a pacifist should never say, "or else" would probably top it. Everything about this song is stupid. Love and peace or else? Or else what, you pussies? What are you going to do about it? Sing another crybaby song for your crybaby fans? Tough shit bitches, war kicks ass.

Can't you hippies just piss off and surrender somewhere quietly for once without singing a song about it?

5. How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb - U2 - City of Blinding Lights

New age mystic bullshit.

6. How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb - U2 - All Because Of You

This is the one song on the album that U2's arrogant fans can't come to a consensus about. Some believe it's a song about life, some death, and others God. One thing I think everyone can agree on is: nobody cares.

7. How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb - U2 - A Man And A Woman

Great song, if you ignore the ho-hum music and the fact that "romance" doesn't rhyme with "distance." This song exemplifies the reason I hate songs with lyrics. Listen you dolts: if a song has a "message," then it probably doesn't matter because more often than not, song writers compromise their message for the sake of making a song that sounds good, or they compromise the music for the sake of pushing their shallow agenda. Maybe U2 wouldn't suck so hard if they stopped preaching and started rocking instead. Of course, that's difficult to do with Pantera holding a near monopoly on all things that rock.

8. How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb - U2 - Crumbs From Your Table

This song is about how America and its wealthiest people don't do enough to help solve world hunger. The title suggests that crumbs from our table could help starving people in Africa. Bono indicts America for being hypocritical with these lines:

Would you deny for others
What you demand for yourself?
Bono could not be reached for comment as he was stepping off his private jet and into his limousine.

9. How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb - U2 - One Step Closer

This sounds like the soundtrack of a coma.

10. How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb - U2 - Original Of The Species

This song was supposedly written about the daughter of guitarist "The Edge." Yeah, that's his nickname: The Edge. I used to think names like "The Edge" or "Spike" were cool, but then I turned 12.

The only way I could ever respect him is if he shouted some stupid catch phrase before every concert like "WATCH OUT! THE EDGE WILL CUT YOU!" That might almost be stupid enough to be cool again with the dumbass hipster crowd, until the next stupid trend shows up at Hot Topic for you to oversaturate and ruin.

11. How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb - U2 - Yahweh

This quote epitomizes U2's pious, holier-than-thou attitude:

"I don't know why, but we always had this belief that there was something sacred about our music, that it was almost holy."
-Bono, pompous asshole and lead singer of U2
Cocky, high-handed, imperial assholes.

That wraps up the list of the top 11 worst songs of 2004. I wanted to list a few honorable mentions, such as "Maroon 5" and their crappy synthesized vocals, but I don't have the time or the patience to listen to any more of this garbage. Piss off.
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Yeah...I don't think we're exactly there yet...

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I don't know who Maddox is, but he is a fucking idiot.
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Maddox is hilarious. But you've still got a few albums to go before you get to that album.
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Released: 1993

Tracklisting

1. Zooropa
2. Babyface
3. Numb
4. Lemon
5. Stay (Faraway, So Close!)
6. Daddy's Gonna Pay For
7. Some Days Are Better Than Others
8. The First Time
9. Dirty Day
10. The Wanderer - U2, Johnny Cash

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Ugh, not a very good album. The songs I can stand to listen to are: Zooropa, Babyface, Numb, Stay, and The First Time. Wanderer is kinda interesting as well.
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This was an okay album - sorta like Achtung Baby Jr. - it was made up mostly of tracks recorded during the AB sessions, but left off that album.

It continued U2's trend of one great album followed by a lesser album:

Boy > October (only because it wasn't the album they initially recoded)
War > Blood Red Sky
Unforgettable Fire > Wide Awake
Joshua Tree > Rattle & Hum
Achtung Baby > Zooropa
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Well, I missed out on most of the other albums, but I'll jump in here. (BTW, OP nice move to do a topic like this here. I've always enjoyed the threads like this on the Steve Hoffman Forum site, so why not another.)

First off, in regards to Zooropa, as some one pointed out, you've gotta take this album for what it is - and remember that it is not an album proper, but a collection of a few new cuts and leftovers from the previous album's sessions. On those grounds - it's not too shabby. Certainly not an outstanding record, but one I still listen to even today.

Yes, I will admit that I actually went to a store's Midnight opening to pick this one up, and even still have the free T-shirt I got along with it for doing so. This was right in the summer of '93 - and back then, the daily ritual for my album listening was at the beach the next morning. I recall it getting a favorable review from the gang of us that hung together then, and I was still spinning it through to the end of the year. That year - 1993 - is still one of my favorite years for overall great music releases, ever - so that this record can still hold it's own amongst that, says something.

Favorite songs I still enjoy off it - "Stay (Faraway, So Close!)", "Lemon", "Daddy's Gonna Pay For Your Crashed Car", "The First Time", "Numb" and the title track.

I'd say I listen to it more than October, Rattle & Hum or Pop.
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I love Zooropa. I love the fact that the band were on a creative high and having so much fun that they went into the recording studio and just knocked out a few good tunes. The opening track is killer, and a lot of the songs have a very experimental feel to them that appeals to me. There's some filler, but the best tracks are a blast to listen to. I think it's a nice counterpoint to the more serious and dour Achtung Baby. And "The Wanderer" is completely brilliant. I think the album's detractors should give it another listen. Don't think of it as the follow-up to Achtung Baby, just think of it as the one time the band let their hair down and just had some fun.
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I love Zooropa. I love the fact that the band were on a creative high and having so much fun that they went into the recording studio and just knocked out a few good tunes. The opening track is killer, and a lot of the songs have a very experimental feel to them that appeals to me. There's some filler, but the best tracks are a blast to listen to. I think it's a nice counterpoint to the more serious and dour Achtung Baby. And "The Wanderer" is completely brilliant. I think the album's detractors should give it another listen. Don't think of it as the follow-up to Achtung Baby, just think of it as the one time the band let their hair down and just had some fun.
I wholeheartedly agree. The only thing I don't really like about this period of U2 is that they released a lot of "dance" mixes as b-sides, which I really did not like.


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