I think that Dave will avoid a good number of Sammy's songs simply because Sammy has a higher vocal range than Dave, and those songs would just sound odd being taken into a lower key. I think they'll stick to the '78-'84 stuff and break out several of the deeper cuts that the Sammy-era tours had been avoiding. It's Dave's turn now.

Yep. I don't think they will play even a single Sammy-era tune.

Well, if we use Neil Peart as a guide as being the best drummer out there and early Phil Collins not too far behind, I would rate Alex as a C+. I've been playing drums for 31 years and those are the 2 drummers that I've emulated the most.

Alex is a steady drummer, nothing too flashy, not bad and not great.

Regarding bass playing, unless you're a Flea or a Paul McCartney, you're basically playing a rhythm instrument where it doesn't matter if you're really that good.

Chris

Sammy had a way of turning a monster riff like Humans Being into a sappy ass love song. That's why he does and always will suck in my book.

It makes no sense either as his Red Rider stuff is not like that at all.

Is VH's son gonna use the Jack Daniels bass?

Red Rocker. And he did several sappy ass love songs during those days as well.

But I did really like his stuff back then.

Yes there is.

Especially in Van Halen where the basic bass riff is

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Isn't that the crappy song from the Twister movie?

God, let's hope so.

I think they'll stick to Dave era songs because:
1. When Sammy joined the band through the time Sammy left the band, they had to play Dave era songs because they did not have enough Sammy era "good" songs to last an entire concert. They had no choice. -popcorn-

I don't think we need another reason.

As far as "deep cuts", How about "One Foot Out the Door", "Take Your Whiskey Home", and "The Full Bug" just to name three.

Dave will not be singing any of the Sammy stuff, I can guarantee it. Eddie completely lost his "edge" when Sammy joined the band, and that's obvious listening to the music they made with him. I mean, it's somewhat listenable stuff, but it really lacks the balls of the Roth era stuff. And the true classics are all on the first 6 LPs/CDs. They really need to put out a DVD collection ala KISS (Van Halen-ology, Vol. 1).

Ticketmaster is showing prices for the Charlotte date. $55 - $125.

And I imagine that's before the service charges, right? The ABB tickets that were $43.50 would have rounded out at $58/piece.

I would have been looking forward to this much more if Dave hadn't come out w/ that Bluegrass VH album. Not to say it's related, it just made me sad to see him like that.

I tried to win tickets on our radio station, and still might. That's probably the only way for me to go. Thursday night's not so bad, but Charlotte is a hike. I'm closer to Asheville, but they'd never play there. The funny thing w/ our radio station is, they had this "BIG 5:00 ANNOUNCEMENT OF A CONCERT", but it's still to a band that is 2 hours away!! I know it's Van Halen w/ David Lee Roth and everything, but it's still funny. Columbia is getting excited about something in Charlotte! We've got the Carolina Coliseum that holds 12,000. You think they're trying to get concerts there? Naw, if they can't sell 25,000 tickets at the Colonial Center, they're not worthy of coming to the Capital City and playing. Meanwhile, I'm running to Asheville, Charlotte, Greenville, Charleston, and Myrtle Beach to catch concerts. I mean, the Flaming Lips are playing at Amos' on a Wednesday. That's a tough sell for somebody to have to be at work the next morning in Columbia at 8:30.

Sorry for the hijack.

Amen,

I would love to have a copy of that Fair Warning show that they shot "So This Is Love" and "Unchained" from. That was a Fair Warning show, right? I've got a boot from Diver Down, but it's no better than the KISS '79 Largo show from Volume 2.

:rolleyes: Dave is half the vocalist Sammy is. And the last time I saw Dave (when he and Sammy toured), He couldn't even remember the lyrics to 'Jump', which isn't too fucking hard of a song.

HOWEVER, I like both Dave and Sammy equally, but for different reasons. To say that Sammy is the reason that Eddie lost his 'edge' is absolutely ridiculous. For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge would never have been possible with Dave in the band, and that album is quite representative of all the musical talent in the band, including Eddie's edge. Is it the same EVH from, say, Fair Warning (the best Dave album, IMO, and, conversely, one that never would have been possible with Sammy)? No. But they're equally as good.

I never understood the whole Dave vs. Sammy debate. I liked both incarnations of the band, as different as they were and will be. But neither incarnation is more rock than the other. At best, the Roth version is more 'raw' and the Hagar version more 'refined', and that's as far as I'll go on it. But there are definitely songs in the catalog that, I feel, are suited for either vocalist. For example, I actually think DLR could do a damn fine rendition of "Don't Tell Me What Love Can Do", and that Sam always did a great version of "Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love". I don't think Sam would work singing "Me Wise Magic", but Dave wouldn't work singing "Cabo Wabo". There are good songs on either side...and it would be a shame for VH as a band to ignore some of the great songs they did with Sammy. Much the same as it would have been a shame for them to ignore songs they did with DLR over the past 2 decades.
And I fully expect them to do at least one DLR solo song, and please god let it be either "Yankee Rose" or "A Lil' Ain't Enough".

I'm not so sure that song is sappy...but I think it was produced like shit. The vocal effects ruined the song...cause the song isn't too damn bad when played live.

On the 'deep cuts' topic...I'd love to hear them bust out something like "Black Star" and finally play the fucking thing with Dave singing it.

If they won't be touching the post-1984 era of Van Halen, maybe we can expect a few songs from "Eat'em and Smile."

Or maybe not.

They could come out and just play Fair Warning from beginning to end with no encore and I'd feel I got my money's worth.

Good Point...but I'd want an encore of Ice Cream Man. :D

At the press conv. Dave had his hair cut short like Huey Lewis and it didn't look right.
Will he wear a wig and do his leg splits?

Why would any male fan care if a singer does leg splits and what his hairstyle looks like?

I saw Dave at the local HOB a few years back, and he was actually pretty good. Had a young guitar player that was really good.

I've seen VH once with Dave (Diver Down tour), and almost every tour with Sammy. Looks like I'm gonna be doing one of the So Cal shows solo...(Wife is not a VH fan)

I never said he was a great vocalist. Dave is the "master of ceremonies" at the party that is/was the original VH. He fucks around, laughs, drinks, tells dirty jokes, and sometimes sings a few lines. Sammy's the "vocalist" who added melody and stiffness to VH simultaneously upon joining.

Sammy's not the reason EVH lost his edge; Dave leaving/being kicked out of VH is why/when/how EVH lost his edge/fire. He didn't play shit after "1984" that even remotely compares to the first six albums, and I've been a fan and a guitarist for THIRTY YEARS.

You contradict yourself in the above statement....the "raw" will always outshine the "refined" as being "more rock".

They always did very few DLR/VH material live with Sammy in the band. Conversely, DLR has said many, many times that he will NEVER play Sammy stuff live, and I can't blame him. I wouldn't either.

I doubt they will simply because the "album/deep cuts" from VH are better songs than DLR's solo stuff, and he knows it. This tour will be a celebration of the first six VH releases, and nothing more. Mark my words; if you go see them, you'll find that I'm right.

VH with Dave = Immature. VH with Sammy = Mature (well, minus the punny acronymical album titles).

And, I like BOTH guys, "immature" is not meant as an insult.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfYjg...elated&search=

I've never been able to post a direct video link, but this is what VH was about. If Sammy tried that split, he'd split his Cabo Wabos.

So, to recap, VH is about a pretty meaningless gymnastic trick?