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BDB 03-26-05 01:43 PM

The U2 Vertigo 2005 Tour
 
Had to delete and restart as I was stuck in elevation mode.


Lets discuss the shows in here, the other thread announced it.

So San Diego First show in on Monday.

And I get to go on April 9th to San Jose GA tickets.

Rehearsals are under way in LA, and this is what was practised according to atu2.com



City of Blinding Lights
The Electric Co.
An Cat dubh
Into The Heart
Beautiful Day
Miracle Drug
Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own
Love and Peace Or Else
Elevation
Stuck In a Moment...
Yahweh
Gloria
One
Where the Streets Have No Name
Running to Stand Still
Zoo Station
The Fly
Vertigo
All Because of You
Sunday Bloody Sunday
40
_______________

sergtv 03-27-05 12:30 AM

going on monday can't wait.. hope with our without you gets added to the set.. looking forward on seeing kings of leon too

Chrisedge 03-27-05 08:33 AM

I saw the "Final Dress Rehearsal" last night at LA Sports Arena. I was one of the idiot fans who hang out all day, hoping to get it, and Bono delivered. At about 2:30pm he came out to the 60 of us waiting, and said he would try and get us in. At about 5:30pm the crowd had got to about 150+ and a mgr type came out, did a quick head count, and escorted us in. Great show, and I look forward to Monday Night....

Chrisedge 03-27-05 08:34 AM

Oh and here is the exact setlist and info from the "Final Rehearsal" (A little different than above)

Spoiler:

Setlist

City of Blinding Lights
The Electric Co.
An Cat Dubh / Into the Heart
Beautiful Day
Miracle Drug
Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own
Love and Peace or Else
Elevation
Stuck in a Moment...
Yahweh
Bullet the Blue Sky
Running to Stand Still

(break for human rights video)

Zoo Station
The Fly
Vertigo

(break)

Pride
Where the Streets Have No Name
One
All Because of You
40

Song notes:

* Larry plays keyboards during "Yahweh"
* during "Love and Peace or Else", Larry is at the edge of the egg when the song starts, playing drums there; during the middle of the song, he goes back to the main stage and drums from there, while Bono drums at the edge of the egg
* during "Zoo Station", Edge is using a "Vertigo" guitar -- black with the red circles on it
* "Streets" does not have a red-colored background; flags of the countries on the African continent are shown behind the band instead
* "40" is performed as it was 20 years ago -- each band member leaves the stage one-at-a-time, and Larry ends the show with a brief drum solo



Stage notes:

* very simple stage, clean - just Larry's drums, Edge's stuff, keyboards, and lots of room for Bono to move around
* 3-level video screen
* main stage is shaped like the "Vertigo" spirals
* the "egg" extends further out onto the floor than the Elevation "heart" did
* there's no b-stage at the far end of the egg, but there is enough room for the band to play, just like on the Elevation Tour


Plus a pic of Bono for you!
http://www.u2preservation.com/junk/IMG_3814med.jpg

BDB 03-27-05 11:29 AM

nice write up chris.

LorenzoL 03-27-05 02:49 PM

Thanks for the write up Chrisedge.

Can't wait for this concert! I have to wait until September 12th to see them. The good thing is that I was able to score tickets, is okay if I have to wait.

grunter 03-27-05 07:15 PM

<-- still doesn't have any tickets to the first leg of the friggin' tour.

Dammit.

LorenzoL 03-28-05 10:38 PM

For those who went to the San Diego show, care to review the concert?

Decker 03-29-05 12:59 AM

Oh, man. Saturday at the Pond can't come soon enough for me. Avoiding the final set list. What are an Cat dubh, The Electric Co. and 40?

sergtv 03-29-05 02:46 AM

Just got back from the concert here in san diego.. all i have to say is that it was amazing.. they sounded great, the light show was awsome, and the set list was alot of the new disk and classic u2.. word of advise.. get there early.. I missed about 20 minutes of kings of leon cause the line to get in was so long and it was moving slow.. took me about an hour to get in.. other than that, i wish i was going wedsday too.

Looking 03-29-05 04:54 AM

Wow, U2! They were one my favorite band back in the 90s! :D

cdollaz 03-29-05 08:48 AM

Setlist?

Dalvin 03-29-05 09:48 AM

WOW....Not playing my favorite U2 song ever("With or Without You") and no "I Still haven't found what I'm Looking for". I was there in San Diego, the energy was great, but the song selection was suspect. There were a group of people who started screaming for "Acrobat"....sadly they did not play it.

cdollaz 03-29-05 10:01 AM

Good to see Running To Stand Still and Zoo Station on there and a few other rarities.

I wish they would take the group which includes One, Bullet The Blue Sky, Sunday Bloody Sunday, New Years Day, Where The Streets Have No Name, The Fly, and Pride and then cut them in half and play them on alternate nights. I really have no desire to hear all of those songs again every night.

BDB 03-29-05 01:03 PM

My GA Tickets have the Required FAN on them, but I guess its still somewhat of a lottery to see if you get into the Egg.

At least I don't have to lineup all day. At SD they started lining up early and at 6:30am one person was #190 in the unofficial line.

madness.

cungar 03-29-05 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by Dalvin
WOW....Not playing my favorite U2 song ever("With or Without You") and no "I Still haven't found what I'm Looking for". I was there in San Diego, the energy was great, but the song selection was suspect. There were a group of people who started screaming for "Acrobat"....sadly they did not play it.

Thank goodness. It's time to drop some of the old war horses. We've heard em a million times. When a band's been around this long it's inevitable.

uteotw 03-29-05 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by BadlyDrawnBoy
My GA Tickets have the Required FAN on them, but I guess its still somewhat of a lottery to see if you get into the Egg.

At least I don't have to lineup all day. At SD they started lining up early and at 6:30am one person was #190 in the unofficial line.

madness.

Can you describe or point me to a precise description of how the GA line is to work?

I got GA tickets for Chicago 5/12 (which was added so no presale). I was in Propoganda but didn't pay the $40 to join U2.com since it was never offered as something that would get a GA person closer than a non-U2.com GA person. To me GA has always meant first come, first served.

But if I won't have to sit in line all day like w/Elevation it may not be all bad, so I'm curious as to the exact details...

Thanks.

BDB 03-29-05 04:41 PM

atu2.com described it like this.

There are 2 lines, one for u2.com members, and one for non u2.com members.

And then I guess your tickets get scanned on entering, if it goes blue you are in the egg, otherwise you are outside.


http://www.vertiblog.com/

and the other info culled from reading wire

BDB 03-29-05 09:35 PM

San Diego MP3's

The Fly
http://s48.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1...N2K5DSJM0QJ31Y

Pride
http://s10.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1...B1RNE2NB5XMC9P


Elevation

http://s48.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3...D06I1IMU11P1W7

Sometimes You Can't Make it on your own

http://s48.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1...H0ZWYZQZJKVIR2

BDB 03-29-05 09:35 PM

and From U2.com how to get in the Ellipse


29.03.2005
The ‘Elipse’ … And How To Get A Place
The elipse, the heart, the circle, the ‘Vertigo Club’ in front of the
stage – here’s how to get in.

Last night in San Diego we successfully piloted a new system aimed at
creating a fairer way for fans to gain entry into the area in front of the
stage (the ‘elipse’, which is the equivalent to the ‘heart’ area on the
Elevation Tour).

We understand there was a little bit of confusion as to how it works. Let
us explain.

People who bought their GA tickets in the U2.Com presale LINE UP IN ONE
SPECIFIC AREA, people who bought their GA tickets in the general sale LINE
UP IN A SEPARATE AREA.

As you enter, a ticket scanner randomly selects from the two lines those
who gain entrance to the elipse.

The system was a big success last night, with lots of you telling us that
it was much fairer – for example it does not penalise people who have to
work in the daytime and cannot get to the show hours beforehand to get in
line.

The new system means that being first in the queue does not guarantee
access to the elipse as on previous tours.

Sorry if any of you had plans to camp days ahead of any of the shows -
being first in line guarantees nothing. Chat about the new system here

“Last time around I queued from six am but still never got in the heart,’
said Al Schooling from Alta Loma. ‘This time I came just before the show
and I’m in! I can’t believe it!’

As the new system was successful, we are going to continue it for the
foreseeable future.

Here’s the small print on entrance to the elipse:

1) All General Admission Tickets holders enter though a designated entry
point

2) All General Admission ticket holders will be asked to form two lines at
this entry point:
a. U2.Com Presale floor Ticket purchasers
b. General Public Floor Ticket Purchasers

3) Venue staff will explain to fans the wrist banding procedure that they
will encounter upon entering:
a. All floor ticket holders will receive a wristband upon entry
b. There is an enclosed Elipse area similar to Elevation Tour “heart”
c. Selection will be on a random basis using a computer ticket scanner
that verifies the tickets and by a random numerical process, selects
tickets for the Ellipse
d. Each ticket selected for the Elipse will enable both the ticket holder
and their companion accompanying them into the Elipse.
e. Each selected ticket and that of their companion will be stamped upon
selection and they will be directed to the Elipse wrist banding station.
f. Random selection will continue for the full capacity of the floor.
(From the first person arriving to the last person arriving, everyone will
have an equal opportunity to enter the Ellipse)
g. The wristbands will provide reentry privileges to their respective areas

4) Those that do not get selected will be instructed to proceed directly
to the floor.

BDB 03-30-05 01:47 AM

Link to a nice Zip file d/l of the SD Show.

http://www.worldmediahost.com

uteotw 03-30-05 08:29 AM

Thanks for the info. on this supposed new way of GA admittance.
But what about for shows where there was no presale, i.e. those shows added at the last minute online (like here in Chicago).

I'm going to try not get all worked up over whatever the system is, but I do want to be able to plan accordingly.

I don't believe it, though, that waiting in line all day means nothing, because if you're NOT chosen to enter the egg, you'll enter the main GA area in order, so if you show up late you'll end up in the back, it would seem...

FM 03-30-05 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by BadlyDrawnBoy
Link to a nice Zip file d/l of the SD Show.

http://www.worldmediahost.com

Thanks!

movieking 03-30-05 05:46 PM

Where? I can't find it.

Flashback 03-30-05 06:52 PM

I have to say, seeing the set list (the great thing about the internet and the worst thing about the internet for concerts) I would definitely pass and just go by the memories of other tours years ago.

BDB 03-30-05 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by movieking
Where? I can't find it.

looks like its gone now :(

movieking 03-31-05 11:10 AM

Any idea where I might be able to find it?

Out of curiosity, how big was it?

Chrisedge 03-31-05 11:19 AM

Looks like my recording made it here before I could post...approaching 4000 downloads of the flac files, and who knows how many of the MP3s...

It caused thetradersden and Interference to both shut down because of the traffic.

http://www.u2preservation.com/junk/0...sDen-Front.jpg

BDB 03-31-05 12:33 PM

That's your recording Chris yes? Very nice quality.

Chrisedge 03-31-05 01:05 PM

Yep...I had it uploaded less than 12 hours after the show started...

Achtung 03-31-05 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by Chrisedge
Yep...I had it uploaded less than 12 hours after the show started...

Hmm, anyone know where there might be a torrent link? I've been a bit busy to look around for one on Interference.

SpaceBoy 03-31-05 03:54 PM

I was always curious.. how does one tape a show? I mean can you not move etc.. or is it pretty easy... and you can enjoy the show as normal.

Chrisedge 03-31-05 04:07 PM

I use a Sony M1 DAT recorder and some Audio Techinica Hyper Cardioid Mics (With a little battery box to power the mics) The whole setup ran over $1300 when I bought it in 2001. My kind of mics "shut out" the crowd around me, but I need to point them straight at the source (in this case the overhead monitors). I have fun, but I need to keep my head pointed at the stage, so no turning around, etc...

As far as where you can get it, lets stay away from that so this doesn't get closed, but if you simply look at the MOST popular Audio BT sites, or U2 FAN sites, it shouldn't be too hard.

SpaceBoy 03-31-05 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by Chrisedge
I use a Sony M1 DAT recorder and some Audio Techinica Hyper Cardioid Mics (With a little battery box to power the mics) The whole setup ran over $1300 when I bought it in 2001. My kind of mics "shut out" the crowd around me, but I need to point them straight at the source (in this case the overhead monitors). I have fun, but I need to keep my head pointed at the stage, so no turning around, etc...

As far as where you can get it, lets stay away from that so this doesn't get closed, but if you simply look at the MOST popular Audio BT sites, or U2 FAN sites, it shouldn't be too hard.

Cool, I always wish I did this at shows I went to. I assume U2 lets you tape right, or can you be undercover with that sorta of setup.

Chrisedge 03-31-05 04:16 PM

They aren't "taper friendly" but they have all been quoted as completely ok with as long as you don't sell it.

So I do it stealth...

Chrisedge 03-31-05 04:33 PM

Just so the MODS know...

It is well-known that Bono as well as Adam and Paul McGuinness have more than once said in public that they do not have a problem with the swapping of recordings of U2 concerts as long as it is free and not businesslike and nobody makes money with it. No matter if you rate bootlegs positive or negative, moral or immoral, at the end of the day every fan has to decide for himself whether or not he is willing to spend money for an illegal sound carrier.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
"When Kelly told me about the bootlegs a few months ago, I wasn't sure that it would go," McGuinness says. "One worry was how enthusiastic the label would be to do it, but it would seem they've been cooperative. Three million total is a very significant result for Sony [Epic's parent company] as much as for the band. It just goes to show that if you make a good enough case, these giant corporations will do exactly what you want. It's been my experience they respond well to being infiltrated, and if you go to your corporation with a plan and it's a good one, very often you'll get total cooperation and have good results."

http://www.dallasobserver.com/issues...-12/stuff.html

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
NIGHTINGALE: We've been asking people to ring in with some questions. This is an unusual one. Alan Ivory from Kent: "What do you think about bootleg tapes being sold?."

BONO: As long as people don't pay too much for them, we've no problem with bootlegs. What I have a problem with is people charging five quid for a record that's you know, inferior, or a live concert that's been done on a Walkman. They're just extorting people who are into music and into U2. So I really object to them, and I think that they should all have their toenails pulled out. But if they do them at reasonable prices, no problem.

MULLEN: I don't necessarily agree with Bono on this, because I think 99 per cent of it is rip-off merchants. The only system that works is when people tape things and swap them, no one has any objections to that. But when people start selling them on the street, I think it's always going to lead into extortion, and ripping people off.

SCOTT: Let's throw this over to Paul McGuinness, who's their manager. Do you actually go after the bootleggers?

McGUINNESS: Yes, if there are boatloads of them, yes. But I remember a few years ago when there was that stupid campaign that the record industry organised called "Home Taping is Killing Music". I remember thinking, "What a stupid thing to say. How could home taping kill music?. Home taping was spreading music, and I thought it was a good thing. Actually, let me qualify that a little. If there is some bastards in Taiwan who has got a boatload of couterfeit copies of Rattle and Hum, and he ships them to Europe, I hope it sinks….

http://classifieds.kingsoft-denmark.com/int1.htm


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
ADAM: "I think bootlegs are something that's very difficult to stop. There are fans out there that want to buy them. I don't like overpriced bootlegs that are ripping the fans off. If they're good quality recordings of a show then I'm happy enough that people have access to those things."

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Tonster: Paul: what do you feel about boot legs
Paul: Well, I would distinguish between bootlegs and counterfeits. Counterfeits I take avery
dim view of because they're taking money from my clients' pockets. The bootleg
phenomenon I'm very relaxed about, quite honestly. I think everyone knows the difference
between an authorized recording we'd put out. The fact that people circulate and swap
recordings they've made at our concerts I'm actually very relaxed about even though the
industry is formally opposed to it. I do have a problem with the recordings produced in
Europe, particularly in Italy -- you can find a whole range of things that look like official U2
recordings in full color packaging -- they are extremely poor quality with a very high price tag
and I think there should be more legal protection against things like that. But in Italy the law
is inadequate to deal with that.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

BONO ON BOOTLEGS:
"The only thing that can piss you off is if people are charging a lot of money for something that isn't very good. It [the Achtung Baby working tapes] got bootlegged in Berlin and it was just like having your notebook read out. That's the bit I didn't like about it. There were no undiscovered works of genius, unfortunately, it was more just gobbledy-gook..."
Note: Bono admits going out and buying a copy of that bootleg anyway!

Paul McGuiness (U2's manager) is asked:
What do you feel about bootlegs?

Paul says:
Well, I would distinguish between bootlegs and counterfeits. Counterfeit
albums, which are simply illegally produced reproductions of our records,
I obviously would take a very dim view of because they're taking money
from my clients' pockets.

The bootleg phenomenon, by which I presume you mean illegal live
recordings of the concerts - I'm very relaxed about that, quite honestly. I
think everyone knows the difference between an authorized live recording
that we would put out, for instance Under A Blood Red Sky or Rattle &
Hum - everyone kind of understands that that's a legitimate live recording.

The fact that people circulate and swap recordings they've made at our
concerts with tape recorders under their coats I'm actually very relaxed
about that. I know the industry is formally opposed to that kind of thing
but I'm not. I don't have a problem with it at all.

The other thing I do have a problem with are the recordings that are
produced in Europe in full color packaging, particularly in Italy, where
there's very inadequate copyright protection. In Italy, in any Italian record
store, you can find a whole range of things that look like official U2
recordings on CD with full color packaging and very often borrowing
from established U2 graphics and photography. They are usually of
extremely poor quality and they carry a very high price tag and I think
there should be more legal protection against things like that. But,
unfortunately, in Italy the law is utterly inadequate to deal with that.

Adam (U2's bassist) is asked:
How do you feel about bootlegs?

Adam says:
I think bootlegs are something that it's very difficult to stop. Obviously
there are fans out there that want to buy them. I don't like overpriced
bootlegs that are ripping the fans off. If they're good quality recordings of
a show then I'm happy enough that people have access to those things
and I know that there's a culture out there that listens to bootlegs. So I
kind of tolerate it, provided the quality is good and the fans aren't being ripped off.

Edge (U2's guitarist) is asked:
How do you feel about fans putting your copyrighted material on their webpages??

Edge says:
I don't have a problem with music being on the Internet, as long as
it's not resold because I don't believe that music on the Internet is bad for
music . . . I think it's OK for music. To me, it's a bit like when cassette
tapes were first made available, the music industry thought that blank
tapes would destroy the business because people would be at home
churning out copies for their friends. It never happened. I think music on
the Internet is going to work out as just another place for people to discover new things.

Edge is asked:
What do you think of bootlegs?

Edge says:
I have no problems with bootlegs. I think, again, if people make
recordings and give them to their friends - as long as people don't get ripped off.

The Edge on bootlegs: "I have no problems with bootlegs, I think, again, if people make recordings and give them to their friends - as long as people don't get ripped off."
Bono on bootlegs: "The only thing that can piss you off is if people are charging a lot of money for something that isn't very good. It [the Hansa Studios, Achtung Baby working tapes] got bootlegged in Berlin and it was just like having your notebook read out. That's the bit I didn't like about it. There were no undiscovered works of genius, unfortunately, it was more just gobbledy-gook..." Note: Bono admits going out and buying a copy of that bootleg anyway!

BDB 03-31-05 04:49 PM

I would assume the mods here are fine with discussion of where to d/l live shows, especially with the band not against it and no money changing hands.

movieking 03-31-05 06:36 PM

I don't know where any popular audio torrents are :(

Chrisedge 03-31-05 07:06 PM

If anyone has any questions, email me at [email protected]

Chrisedge 04-02-05 10:29 AM

Wow, saw them again last night (04/01). Much better sounding, already mixing up the setlists and a few different songs. Looks like they are gonna actually try and do different songs each show.

I was AGAIN offered tickets for tonight that I might have to turn down. I feel like SHIT, throat is killing me.


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