Looks like Queen isn't the only one doing it..
01-27-05 | 01:34 AM
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From: The city with no sports championships...Cleveland
Originally Posted by dtcarson
the Rollins Band [currently] is basically Henry and whatever musicians he can find for that album.
Isn't that what Nine Inch Nails/Trent Reznor does??
01-27-05 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by brianluvdvd
You guys are overlooking the worst offenders in the music business as far as "replacements" go...Motown and other "oldies" groups.
Groups like The Four Tops, The Temptations, The Platters and others send out these groups on tours with maybe one old original member (who is barely alive and has to sit in a rocking chair or use a walker onstage while breathing oxygen) or a grandson of the original member and then 2 or 3 other normal singers who call themselves The Temptations or whatever group they are singing in this week.
These groups are truly pathetic and are even worse if you see them live.
Groups like The Four Tops, The Temptations, The Platters and others send out these groups on tours with maybe one old original member (who is barely alive and has to sit in a rocking chair or use a walker onstage while breathing oxygen) or a grandson of the original member and then 2 or 3 other normal singers who call themselves The Temptations or whatever group they are singing in this week.
These groups are truly pathetic and are even worse if you see them live.
01-27-05 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by GuessWho
Styx is missing Dennis DeYoung...
01-27-05 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Decker
Actually, I see an important difference. The Police, Talking Heads and CCR were really groups who formed on their own. Singer-songwriters who performed their own materials. As great as The Temptations and The Four Tops were, they were casted into manufactured groups churning out hits written by in-house songwriters. In a way, seeing them get re-cast is no worse, really than recasting N'Sync or The Backstreet Boys. OK, maybe it's worse than that, but it can't compare to seeing "CCR" without Fogerty or The Police without Sting.
01-27-05 | 03:34 PM
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From: The city with no sports championships...Cleveland
Originally Posted by The_Infidel
Styx is one of those rare bands that's not only missing their original lead singer...they only have one original member left in the band!
01-27-05 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by paulringodaman
Also, I don't feel AC/DC replacing Brian Johnson with Bon Scott was a bad move....No one that sees AC/DC live ever says, "He's no Bon Scott." To me, Brian is "original" and he is AC/DC (not to disrespect Bon Scott).
01-27-05 | 04:44 PM
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I wonder what would have happened if this guy...
...had never replaced this guy...
...and what these guys ...
...would be doing now?
(Not that Geddy and Alex would not have had some success, but the difference between Rush and Fly By Night was considerable...due mostly to Neil's writing and much better musicianship compared to Rutsey)
...had never replaced this guy...
...and what these guys ...
...would be doing now?
(Not that Geddy and Alex would not have had some success, but the difference between Rush and Fly By Night was considerable...due mostly to Neil's writing and much better musicianship compared to Rutsey)
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01-28-05 | 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by paulringodaman
They actually have 2 original members (guitarists) and the original bassist (I THINK he has AIDS) plays at only special occasions (well the last two times in Cleveland - once at the Rock Hall and once on the tour opener - he was there.)
But you're right about Chuck Panozzo. He is a founding member, but unless he's playing with the group full time, I personally don't consider him to still be with them. He's more of a "special guest", as their website basically implies.
THEREFORE...James "JY" Young is the only current full-time original member of Styx.
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01-28-05 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by The_Infidel
I just knew someone was going to try and say something about two original guitarists. Tommy Shaw, while having been with Styx for quite a long time, is not an original member of the band. They released five albums before Tommy joined the group in 1976 for Crystal Ball. He replaced original member John Curulewski.
But you're right about Chuck Panozzo. He is a founding member, but unless he's playing with the group full time, I personally don't consider him to still be with them. He's more of a "special guest", as their website basically implies.
THEREFORE...James "JY" Young is the only current full-time original member of Styx.
But you're right about Chuck Panozzo. He is a founding member, but unless he's playing with the group full time, I personally don't consider him to still be with them. He's more of a "special guest", as their website basically implies.
THEREFORE...James "JY" Young is the only current full-time original member of Styx.
03-19-05 | 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Brain Stew
I heard that due to a lot of lineup changes, the Thin Lizzy that toured a few years ago had no original members.
Anyway, just had to chime in on this one. I Love Thin Lizzy, TL will never be the same without Phil, he was TL, on the other hand, I happened to catch their show last year when they toured with Deep Purple (who incedentally has 2 original members, Ian Gillan is not original, but is most remembred as the vocalist for DP) but I digress, I was blown away with Thin Lizzy, Gorham or Sykes, whoever was doing the vocals sounds so much like Phil it's amazing they waited so long to start up again. I wouldn't expect anymore great songs out of these guys (In my book Phil was just a master at phrasing lyrics) but at the same time, I wasn't lucky enough to catch them when Phil was around. Same for Queen, same for Journey. Queen without Freddie isnt Queen really, but would I still go, damn right! Journey w/o Perry? Maybe, if tickets were CHEAP, I'd do it. I'd pay good money to see them with Perry though.
I read something about AC/DC - Brian Johnson/ Bon Scott in here too...
and I would be among those that think AC/DC died with Bonn - they havent been the same since. just my .02
03-19-05 | 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 1_Voice
and I would be among those that think AC/DC died with Bonn - they havent been the same since. just my .02
I am okay with Back in Black, but I credit it to Bon actually being alive for the concept of the album, and IIRC he wrote some of it, so it is a Bon album with Brian on vocals.
