Dalvin

SHAWN STOCKMAN: Michael McCary has officially retired from the music business. For those of you who may know some of his history, he has a serious back ailment. He's had it for about 4-5 years and it basically took its toll to the point where he couldn't really perform or do that things that were really required of him to do. So he's made the decision to be at home with his family and he even opened up a restaurant ... It's just the three of us right now and the slot has been open for Mike. Once he gets his stuff together and is able to do the things that he needs to do, he'll return


Doesn't this statement sound like a contratiction from one of the memebers of the group? In the first sentence he says, "officially retired from the music business", which generally means, one is not coming back. Then the last sentence he goes on to say, "Once he gets his stuff together... he'll return."

Weird...anyone here know what happened with the group?

Rogue588

You mean, like Michael Jordan "retired"...?

And...what happened to the other Boyz II Men thread you started asking basically the same thing?

Trelach24

What will they do without him talking during their songs???

Dalvin

While Mike was the one who was famous for talking during their songs, he also had an amazing Bass voice( an actual true Bass) and was an amazing singer. While he mostly was used for harmony, he did on occasion sing lead in a few places...most notably the song 'U Know" for the album "II" in the first verse. Damn great singer.

SleepyW

Yeah - they went away from their bread and butter writers and producers and thought they could write and produce their own stuff....which flopped. That's why they've done nothing with their 2(?) albums since "II".

Dalvin

Actually sleepy, they do use some of their big producers still and are just as good as the songs off of "II" backin 1994(amazing to think its been 10 years since that album).

Here is a breakdown of the songs written by their hit producers/writers after "II".

Album- "Evolution"- 1997

1) 4 Seasons of Lonliness- Jam/Lewis

2) A Song For Mama- Babyface


Album- "Nathan, Micheal, Shawn, Wanya"-2000 (Universal Debut)

None- the group elected to write and produce their own stuff. Don't be fooled two of the members are very good writers, and wrote some very good material (and some not so good)

Best Songs:

1) Pass You By- Written/Produced by Shawn Stockman

2) Know What You Want- Written/Produced by Nathan Morris, but sounds very much like a Babyface produced track.


"Full Circle"- 2002 (Arista Debut)

Here they reunite with their hit producers again, and it turns into gold(sadly not for the whole album). The Boyz decided to go with many different producers and writers who hadn't done much as a way of getting them exposure. Nice jesture, but mostly didn't work.

Best songs:

1) "The Color of Love"- Written/Produced by Babyface

2) "Oh Well"- Written/Produced by Jam/Lewis


"Throwback"-2004 (Koch Debut)

Again, the Boyz decided to go back to having different producers, and sing a collection of soul classics. No Babyface or Jam/Lewis...or ORIGINAL MATERIAL hurt this album. There were some good songs , but no Staple Boyz II Men songs on this one that would have people associate the group with.

1 One Sweet Day
[Mariah Carey & Boyz II Men]
from Legacy: The Greatest Hits and Mariah's Daydream
ARC Chart Run: 40 - 30 - 20 - 16 - 8 - 3 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 2 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 2 - 3 - 5 - 5 - 13 - 23 - 33 - off
Year-End Chart Position: # 1
Grammy Nominee: Record of the Year, Best Pop Collaboration with Vocals
MTV VMA Nominee: Best R&B Video 1(11) 25 1996 [ LISTEN / BUY ]
[ LYRICS ]


2 End Of The Road
from Boomerang soundtrack and Cooleyhighharmony
ARC Chart Run: 38 - 30 - 10 - 3 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 2 - 1 - 1 - 2 - 4 - 4 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 8 - 12 - 16 - 22 - 28 - 34 - 40 - off
Year-End Chart Position: # 1
RIAA Certification: Platinum
Grammy Winner: Best R&B Vocal Performance by a Duo or Group
AMA Winner: Favorite Pop/Rock Single
MTV VMA Nominee: Best R&B Video 1(7) 25 1992 [ LISTEN / BUY ]
[ LYRICS ]


3 Water Runs Dry
from II
ARC Chart Run: 37 - 28 - 21 - 17 - 13 - 12 - 21 - 34 - 39 - off - 38 - 32 - 28 - 20 - 10 - 5 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 1 - 1 - 2 - 4 - 7 - 9 - 14 - 17 - 22 - 34 - off
Year-End Chart Position: # 2
RIAA Certification: Gold
MTV VMA Nominee: Best R&B Video, Best Cinematography 1(2) 28 1995 [ LISTEN / BUY ]
[ LYRICS ]


4 I'll Make Love To You
from II
ARC Chart Run: 22 - 4 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 3 - 3 - 3 - 5 - 6 - 8 - 13 - 15 - 22 - 32 - 36 - 38 - off
Year-End Chart Position: # 1
RIAA Certification: Platinum
Grammy Winner: Best R&B Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocal
Grammy Nominee: Record of the Year
AMA Winner: Favorite Pop/Rock Single, Favorite Soul/R&B Single 1(5) 19 1994 [ LISTEN / BUY ]
[ LYRICS ]


5 On Bended Knee
from II
ARC Chart Run: 40 - 29 - 14 - 10 - 3 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 1 - 5 - 7 - 10 - 18 - 27 - off
Year-End Chart Position: # 8
RIAA Certification: Platinum 1(4) 18 1994 [ LISTEN / BUY ]
[ LYRICS ]


6 It's So Hard To Say Goodbye To Yesterday
from Cooleyhighharmony
ARC Chart Run: 40 - 30 - 23 - 15 - 7 - 4 - 2 - 2 - 3 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 6 - 11 - 14 - 19 - 36 - off
Year-End Chart Position: # 3
RIAA Certification: Gold 2 17 1991 [ LISTEN / BUY ]
[ LYRICS ]


7 In The Still Of The Nite (I'll Remember)
from Cooleyhighharmony
ARC Chart Run: 29 - 17 - 11 - 8 - 5 - 4 - 3 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 3 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 7 - 10 - 21 - 38 - off
Year-End Chart Position: # 20
RIAA Certification: Platinum 2 18 1993 [ LISTEN / BUY ]
[ LYRICS ]


8 Motownphilly
from Cooleyhighharmony
ARC Chart Run: 39 - 33 - 28 - 24 - 19 - 15 - 13 - 11 - 9 - 2 - 1 - 4 - 5 - 10 - 14 - 28 - 31 - off
Year-End Chart Position: # 10
RIAA Certification: Platinum
AMA Nominee: Favorite Soul/R&B Single 1(1) 17 1991 [ LISTEN / BUY ]
[ LYRICS ]


9 4 Seasons Of Loneliness
from Evolution
ARC Chart Run: 34 - 23 - 12 - 5 - 3 - 2 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 8 - 14 - 18 - 26 - 31 - 37 - off
Year-End Chart Position: # 36
RIAA Certification: Platinum 2 15 1997


10 A Song For Mama
from Evolution
ARC Chart Run: 36 - 30 - 23 - 19 - 17 - 13 - 8 - 5 - 5 - 4 - 6 - 13 - 21 - 31 - off
Year-End Chart Position: # 58
RIAA Certification: Platinum
Grammy Nominee: Best R&B Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocal 4 14 1998 [ LISTEN / BUY ]
[ LYRICS ]


11 Uhh Ahh
from Cooleyhighharmony
ARC Chart Run: 37 - 27 - 23 - 19 - 16 - 12 - 11 - 10 - 15 - 21 - 29 - 38 - off
Year-End Chart Position: # 81 10 12 1992 [ LISTEN / BUY ]
[ LYRICS ]


12 Thank You
from II
ARC Chart Run: 31 - 21 - 17 - 14 - 12 - 11 - 22 - 30 - 37 - off
Year-End Chart Position: # 97 11 9 1995 [ LISTEN / BUY ]
[ LYRICS ]


13 Vibin'
from II
ARC Chart Run: 34 - 28 - 24 - 20 - 17 - 24 - off
Year-End Chart Position: # 139 17 6 1995 [ LISTEN / BUY ]
[ LYRICS ]


14 Pass You By
from Nathan, Michael, Shawn, Wanya
ARC Chart Run: 36 - 33 - 30 - 27 - 25 - 35 - off
Year-End Chart Position: # 154
Grammy Nominee: Best R&B Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocal 25 6 2000 [ LISTEN / BUY ]
[ LYRICS ]


15 I Will Get There
from The Prince Of Egypt soundtrack
ARC Chart Run: 38 - 32 - 29 - 27 - 26 - off
Year-End Chart Position: # 158
RIAA Certification: Gold

SleepyW

I think you made my point that they went away from their bread and butter. Jam and Lewis have lost their touch over the past few years (note Janet Jackson's failure to do anything on the charts lately), and "Color of Love" was essentially a remake because Sam Salter did it a year or two earlier (also produced by Babyface)...that version was MUCH better than B2M's flat rendition. They should have retired after 'Evolution' (one of their best tracks from that was actually "Just Hold On', which was on on import versions of the album--and produced by Babyface also).

Rogue588

I think you have Jermaine Dupri and Jan's nipple to thank for that..

SleepyW

If I ever see her nipple, I'll be sure to thank it.