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Flashback 06-24-02 11:41 AM

New GnR Labor Day?
 
Reported at Drudge, and it's Axl, so take it at face value.


FLASH: Guns n Roses will release the long awaited 'Chinese Democracy' album on Labor Day... Developing...

atlantamoi 06-24-02 11:58 AM

I'm not a GnR fan. Don't own any of their music. But, does anyone know if Tommy Stinson (from the Replacements) was involved with the recording or did he just perform live with them?

Dubya 06-24-02 12:09 PM

To me Guns N Roses was Axl, Slash, and Duff. Without those three it's just an Axl Rose solo record.

Flashback 06-24-02 12:28 PM


Originally posted by atlantamoi
I'm not a GnR fan. Don't own any of their music. But, does anyone know if Tommy Stinson (from the Replacements) was involved with the recording or did he just perform live with them?
Here is what I found (and Stinson is mentioned as being part
of the lineup). Although it really is not the 'real' GnR, I am a
fan of The Replacements and would love to see what he is
up to now.


Guns n Roses Chinese Democracy has a release date again

Guns 'n' Roses "Chinese Democracy" has been rescheduled for release September 2, almost three years after the original release date.

Axl Rose has recorded over 70 songs for this record with various producers. In February, he fired producer Roy Thomas Baker who had been brought in to replace Sean Beaven.

It is unsure who will have credits on this version of the record, if it actually comes out. Rose recently commented on the record saying "we're in the studio doing this album and I can promise you that we're gonna deliver and it's gonna be out of the ballpark. We've been working on this album and I can tell you we're doing our best and that's all I can promise".

The Guns 'n' Roses lineup for the record is Axl Rose (vocals), Robin Finck (guitar), Buckethead (guitar), Chris Pittman (keyboards), Tommy Stinson (bass), Dizzy Reed (keyboards) and Brain (drums).

The band performed in Las Vegas last December and debuted a number of songs expected to be on the album. They were Oh My God; Madagascar; Chinese Democracy; The Blues and Silk Worms.

To date, the only song that has been officially released is "Oh My God" which featured on the 1999 movie soundtrack to "End of Days."

Guns 'n' Roses have been confirmed for the Carling Festival in England in August. Unconfirmed reports also have them scheduled for China and Japan early August.

By Paul Cashmere

lordzeppelin 06-24-02 03:47 PM

I'll believe it when I have it in my hands...for now though, I'll just stick with uh, what I already have "accquired" from this album...

Josh-da-man 06-24-02 04:19 PM

Does anyone care anymore?

Rather than Axl screwing around with a bunch of disposable musicians, wouldn't it make more sense to get the old band back together? Axl, Slash, Izzy, Duff, and Steven (providing he's up to it)?

As good as "Appetite for Destruction" was, and the "Use Your Illusion" albums weren't bad despite Axl's increasing rock-star pretensions, it's really kid of sad to have watched this band -- that was on top of the world in the late 80s and early 90s -- fall to pieces.

Matt 06-24-02 06:44 PM

Providing he's up to it?

Axl's pretty much the reason the other guys left the band in the first place.

Here's an interesting question:

How much original music has "Guns N' Roses" released since Izzy Stradlin left the band in late 1991?

Give you guys a few moments to think about that one. . .

MJKTool 06-24-02 07:04 PM


Originally posted by Josh-da-man
Does anyone care anymore?
Not I. Guns was my favorite band at one time. GNR will never be GNR without Slash, Duff, Izzy & Axl.

atlantamoi 06-24-02 09:09 PM


Rather than Axl screwing around with a bunch of disposable musicians, wouldn't it make more sense to get the old band back together? Axl, Slash, Izzy, Duff, and Steven (providing he's up to it)?
Okay, I gotta pipe in here. When I first heard "Sweet Child O' Mine" back in '87 I thought it was a decent song. Ever since then I've thought this band mostly blew chunks. That "November Rain" song solidified my feelings this band wasn't my style at all. The only reason I happen to be in the least bit interested about this new recording is because of one of the "disposable" musicians.

GuessWho 06-24-02 09:57 PM

...but Dizzy Reed is still there... there's a Use Your Illusion & Spaghetti Incident veteran!! ;)

ziggy 06-25-02 12:54 AM

Spaghetti Incedent :yack:

GNR was (and is) one of my favorite bands, but this won't be GNR.

I may 'buy' it anyway, but I expect to be dissapointed. (is that possible!?!)

Josh-da-man 06-25-02 02:32 AM


Originally posted by Virex
Providing he's up to it?

Axl's pretty much the reason the other guys left the band in the first place.

Actually, the "he" I was referring to was Steven Adler. He's had some pretty serious medical problems since he was kicked out GnR.

Geofferson 06-25-02 11:46 AM

I'll beleive it when I see it.

MJKTool 06-25-02 01:11 PM


Originally posted by Josh-da-man


Actually, the "he" I was referring to was Steven Adler. He's had some pretty serious medical problems since he was kicked out GnR.

I always thought it was drug problems that got him kicked?, which I always thought was the most silly thing. Im sure the rest of the gang was nice and sober at that time :)

palebluedot 06-25-02 01:41 PM

Wow...didn't realize Buckethead was playing guitar on the album. That cat is pretty wild. Praxis and Zillatron with Bootsy Collins and Buckethead was some crazy sh|t.

GuessWho 06-25-02 03:09 PM


Originally posted by palebluedot
Bootsy Collins and Buckethead was some crazy sh|t.
http://www.bucketheadland.com/bucket...ootsyeddie.jpg

ziggy 06-26-02 11:37 AM

I d/l two tracks from the new GNR album, and they were truly awful - I deleted them because there is no chance of me ever wanting to hear them again.

Matt 06-26-02 03:54 PM


I always thought it was drug problems that got him kicked?
It was the drug problems that got him kicked out of the band, but I remember seeing him on some tabloid-news show a few years back, talking about the medical problems he had throughout most of the nineties. Haven't seen or heard anything from him since--I don't even know if he's still in music anymore.

cungar 05-12-04 01:20 PM

Matt Sorum to Axl: It's not f***ing brain surgery
 
Former GUNS N' ROSES star MATT SORUM is laughing at former bandmate AXL ROSE's
efforts to release new album CHINESE DEMOCRACY - because he thinks the project
will be awful.
Rose has been promising the new album for years, but drummer Sorum urges rock
fans not to expect a classic if the project ever hits record stores.
Sorum, who has formed hot new group VELVET REVOLVER with his ex-bandmates
DUFF McKAGAN and SLASH, says, "We put this band together and started an album
two weeks later. It's not f***ing brain surgery.
"It's verse, chorus, guitar solo, verse, chorus, and you're done.
"I don't know what he's f***ing doing over there but I hope it's a 72-piece
classically composed masterpiece."
(KL/RV/TN)

Rogue588 05-12-04 01:31 PM

rotfl

MJKTool 05-12-04 02:14 PM

OwNd!!! :lol:

Lara Means 05-12-04 03:25 PM

Actually, this proves that Matt Sorum is an idiot. Yes, its so easy to make a rock album. Which is why there is so much shit out there in stores and the majority of them sound alike. This doesn't give me much hope about the VR album coming out. If they slapped it together like that then the VR album will be forgotten in about a month. Also, that single on the Hulk soundtrack sucked.

cungar 05-12-04 03:56 PM

Uh I believe he was taking the piss out of Axl. I'd lay odds on the VR being infinitely more listenable, enjoyable and in the spirit of the original G n R than the Industrial schlock Chinese Democracy someday becomes.

Josh-da-man 05-12-04 04:06 PM

I think the reason we haven't seen "Chinese Democracy" released is because Axl Rose crawled up his own ass about ten years ago.

DVD Josh 05-12-04 04:11 PM


Originally posted by Josh-da-man
I think the reason we haven't seen "Chinese Democracy" released is because Axl Rose crawled up his own ass about ten years ago.
Is that what happened to his eyebrows?

Flashback 05-12-04 04:39 PM

Matt Sorum, one of the biggest whores talking crap :lol: This guy would take a job with Tito Jackson if it paid. Although I do agree that it is not brain surgery.

Rivero 05-12-04 04:46 PM


Originally posted by Lara Means
Actually, this proves that Matt Sorum is an idiot. Yes, its so easy to make a rock album. Which is why there is so much shit out there in stores and the majority of them sound alike. This doesn't give me much hope about the VR album coming out. If they slapped it together like that then the VR album will be forgotten in about a month. Also, that single on the Hulk soundtrack sucked.
:thumbsup::thumbsup:

OwNed!

nodeerforamonth 05-18-04 10:57 PM


Originally posted by Lara Means
Actually, this proves that Matt Sorum is an idiot.
Well he IS a drummer!

But he did have some very valid points.

The amount of time it's taking to put this out is ridiculous. I gave up 5 years ago.

Supermallet 05-19-04 12:41 AM


Originally posted by Lara Means
Actually, this proves that Matt Sorum is an idiot. Yes, its so easy to make a rock album. Which is why there is so much shit out there in stores and the majority of them sound alike. This doesn't give me much hope about the VR album coming out. If they slapped it together like that then the VR album will be forgotten in about a month. Also, that single on the Hulk soundtrack sucked.
Yeah, but that doesn't mean he's wrong about Chinese Democracy.

custom001 05-19-04 02:24 AM

:lol:

definitely
http://tim.movementarian.com/archives/own3d.gif


Still a shame that The Offspring weren't able to call their latest album "Chinese Democracy".

sataniko 05-19-04 02:50 PM


Originally posted by Lara Means
Actually, this proves that Matt Sorum is an idiot. Yes, its so easy to make a rock album. Which is why there is so much shit out there in stores and the majority of them sound alike. This doesn't give me much hope about the VR album coming out. If they slapped it together like that then the VR album will be forgotten in about a month. Also, that single on the Hulk soundtrack sucked.
Well said....

POWERBOMB 05-19-04 07:29 PM

They spent a year or two making Use Your Illusion I & II. Metallica spent the better part of a year and a half on the Black Album, which I think almost every major artist can possibly say. So if Axl want to spend a decade or two to put out what may be his final masterpiece, who are we and Sorum to say he can't?

Scorpio 05-19-04 08:42 PM

Awesome. Matt :up:

Rypro 525 07-06-04 11:26 AM

chinese democracy november 2004 according to behind the music?
 
if i heard right, on the behind the music special of guns n roses, they mentioned that chinese democracy by axl rose is tentavly scheduled for a november 2004 release.

gnradd21 07-06-04 11:56 AM

I'll believe it when I'm actually holding a copy in my hands. He's been tweaking it for a few years now. It'll never be as perfect as he apparently wants it. Some people will hate it no matter what, so just release the damn thing, Axl!! I'm speaking directly to him because I know he comes to these boards :lol:

Hollowgen 07-06-04 11:57 AM

hahaha does anyone actually care anymore?

at least the 2nd half of GNR are being productive, and making (mediocre) music.

gnradd21 07-06-04 12:01 PM

Axl doesn't want to release mediocre music, and for that reason I still have respect for him. He could have released shitty albums of generic hard rock, basically what Slash wanted to do (listen to his solo stuff), just rehash the last album over and over, but instead he wanted to go in a different direction. It may not sound like Appetite-era GnR, but even the original lineup could probably never recapture that, so I'm still interested in the new music he's making. I'm 22 and still have hope it will come out before I croak :D

nodeerforamonth 07-06-04 12:26 PM

You're being very silly & gullible if you actually believe this.

How many times have they announced a release date for this over the past 10 years?

Josh-da-man 07-06-04 12:26 PM

Chinese Democracy and The Last Dangerous Visions will both be released on the same day.

Amel 07-06-04 01:16 PM

I was a huge Guns fan, but I'll admit the only thing that's got me interested in this is the fact this fool has been working on it for 10 years. Other than that, I don't really care, unless the original members get together again. Seperately they have been unable to create the chemistry that resulted in one of the greatest records ever made.


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