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Old 11-04-03 | 10:25 PM
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Evanescence...no more?

MOODY TIMES OVER FOR EVANESCENCE

EVANESCENCE face an uncertain future following the shock walkout of their guitarist.

It has emerged that founder member Ben Moody walked out of the band’s world tour on October 24 in Berlin. He immediately flew home and did not give a reason for his departure, according to MTV.

Furious singer Amy Lee told Rocksound magazine: "You don’t do that to your band. You wouldn’t do that to your friends or your family. You don’t do that to anyone."

The band are ploughing on with their European tour, and are expected to honour their US dates, which begin later this month. Second guitarist John LeCompt is filling in Moody’s parts.

Lee and Moody formed Evanescence together in the late ‘90s. This year they scored a worldwide smash with breakthrough single ‘Bring Me To Life’.
Old 11-04-03 | 10:42 PM
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Wow. They are positioned to be huge, and their "debut" album is complete, not a radio hit padded with crap. Hopefully this blows over.

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Old 11-04-03 | 11:22 PM
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didn't Stevie Ray Vaughn do this to Bowie? Anyway, I hope they can get another guitarist and move on. They shouldn't let one "moody" prick ruin their success.
Old 11-05-03 | 06:29 AM
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Wow. One of the only decent bands on rock radio right now. The better not call it quits.
Old 11-05-03 | 07:19 AM
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they didn't call quits, they are still touring in europe with a new guitar player (thats what I heard on the radio.
Old 11-05-03 | 11:54 AM
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Didn't Moody write/co-write most of the songs?

Maybe he couldn't handle/or was fed up with all the mainstream success the group has received.

At first I believed these guys were destined to be one of the greatest bands in the world.....but it seemed like the record companies tried to gear Evanescence's music toward the Pop Generation.


* I also grew tired of them performing "Bring Me to Life" on every damn award show.

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Old 11-05-03 | 12:41 PM
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didn't Stevie Ray Vaughn do this to Bowie? Anyway, I hope they can get another guitarist and move on. They shouldn't let one "moody" prick ruin their success.
I thought Bowie offered SRV a spot on the tour after he appeared on the one album, but SRV's own band was beginning to take off at the time, so he declined.

but, i could be wrong.
Old 11-05-03 | 12:46 PM
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Originally posted by candyrocket786
Didn't Moody write/co-write most of the songs?

Maybe he couldn't handle/or was fed up with all the mainstream success the group has received.

At first I believed these guys were destined to be one of the greatest bands in the world.....but it seemed like the record companies tried to gear Evanescence's music toward the Pop Generation.


* I also grew tired of them performing "Bring Me to Life" on every damn award show.
I heard on the radio that yes he co-wrote/wrote most of the songs. All the interviews and attention the band received was all towards Amy. He thought she was getting more attention then the music they made. So he quit. Hopefully McDonalds is hiring because he probably missed the chance to hit the somewhat big time.
Old 11-05-03 | 12:58 PM
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Lead singer with compelling voice gets more press than the rest of the band? Shocking!!! Welcome to the music business, jackass. Who cares who gets the "attention" so long as the music's good? It should be about the music.

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Old 11-05-03 | 01:21 PM
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Weren't Ben and Amy -er- involved?

Unless you're Fleetwood Mac, that's a surefire formula to screw up a band dynamic.
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Lead singer with compelling voice gets more press than the rest of the band? Shocking!!! Welcome to the music business, jackass. Who cares who gets the "attention" so long as the music's good? It should be about the music.

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Originally posted by Josh-da-man
Weren't Ben and Amy -er- involved?

Unless you're Fleetwood Mac, that's a surefire formula to screw up a band dynamic.

Sounds like a case of the "No Doubt" Syndrome gone terribly bad.
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They're a pretty weird band (people not music). There was a lot of controversary about their religious beliefs. Amy and Ben are supposedly Christians. I think Ben even thanks Jesus in the linear notes. They even toured with a lot of Christian bands early in their career.

After this album came out, the album was being sold in Christian book stores, played on Christian stations, and they were often mentioned in Christian magazines. Apparently, they didn't like the attention from the "Christian subculture." They asked that their CDs be removed from Christian bookstores, their songs stop being played on Christian radio stations, and they refused to give interviews to Christian magazines/publications.

Many Christians started feeling that they were more concerned with their success than their faith.

I don't know if they ever gave a real answer for why they did what they did... other than they are not a "Christian band" even if they themselves are Christian. But, my question is... Why wouldn't you want your music available in Christian bookstores, radio stations, etc.

MxPx doesn't consider themselves a "Christian band" -- in the sense that they aren't exactly writing praise music... but they still have their CDs sold in Christian bookstores and play Christian music festivals almost every year.
Old 11-05-03 | 04:26 PM
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They're a pretty weird band (people not music). There was a lot of controversary about their religious beliefs. Amy and Ben are supposedly Christians. I think Ben even thanks Jesus in the linear notes. They even toured with a lot of Christian bands early in their career.

After this album came out, the album was being sold in Christian book stores, played on Christian stations, and they were often mentioned in Christian magazines. Apparently, they didn't like the attention from the "Christian subculture." They asked that their CDs be removed from Christian bookstores, their songs stop being played on Christian radio stations, and they refused to give interviews to Christian magazines/publications.

Many Christians started feeling that they were more concerned with their success than their faith.

I don't know if they ever gave a real answer for why they did what they did... other than they are not a "Christian band" even if they themselves are Christian. But, my question is... Why wouldn't you want your music available in Christian bookstores, radio stations, etc.

MxPx doesn't consider themselves a "Christian band" -- in the sense that they aren't exactly writing praise music... but they still have their CDs sold in Christian bookstores and play Christian music festivals almost every year.
Yeah, I read about this somewhere...

Speaking of No Doubt...there are rumours that Gwen's developing a prima donna/diva attitude as she works on her new solo album...

[according to NY newspapers..]
Old 11-05-03 | 04:45 PM
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Evanescence is Linkin Park and SarahMcWhatever with Creed.
Old 11-05-03 | 05:07 PM
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Evanescence is Lacuna Coil with the serial numbers filed off.
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Amy Lee is hot.

I demand some pics!
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Evanescence is Lacuna Coil with the serial numbers filed off.



I've never heard Lacuna Coil but I hear they're a great band.
Old 11-05-03 | 06:18 PM
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Maybe he couldn't handle/or was fed up with all the mainstream success the group has received.
Making money must have been terrible!
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I've never heard Lacuna Coil but I hear they're a great band.
Yeah...they're up there with Nightwish, Within Temptation and The Gathering....some of the greatest talent you'll ever hear.

LC toured the US briefly this past spring.

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Yeah...they're up there with Nightwish, Within Temptation and The Gathering....some of the greatest talent you'll ever hear.

LC toured the US briefly this past spring.
And their lead singer is HOT! (Lacuna Coil, that is)
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Who cares who gets the "attention" so long as the music's good?
Are you talking about Evanescence?
Old 11-05-03 | 08:06 PM
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And their lead singer is HOT! (Lacuna Coil, that is)

Yeah she is. Italian band
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• Quoth evenflow •<HR SIZE=1>Are you talking about Evanescence? <HR SIZE=1>

I'm talking about all musicians. If the band members are pleased with the quality of their music as individuals, then it shouldn't mean anything to them which band member gets the most press, so long as the music says what they want to say. Since they're touring and not writing, it's unlikely that Moody is upset over creative differences, but instead is simply jealous that he's not a hot lead singer with a unique voice. Perhaps he can call is solo album "Cliche."

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Here's an update, courtesy of blistering.com:

http://www.blistering.com/fastpage/f...idx/1/menuid/1

"Mr. Moody, please report to the principal's office. Mr. Moody to the principal's office."

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EVANESCENCE lead guitarist Ben Moody will meet with executives at Wind-Up Records today (Nov. 5) in Los Angeles to discuss his future with the band.

As previously reported, Moody abruptly left the Arkansas-based group last month in Berlin in the midst of a world tour. A Wind-Up spokesperson would only confirm, "Ben is not on the current dates." Second guitarist John LeCompt has been subbing for Moody ever since.

There is no word on when — or if — Moody will rejoin the group, the spokesperson said. Moody was spotted by staff at Juanita's, a Little Rock bar, Monday night.

EVANESCENCE's CD "Fallen" featuring the No. 1 song "Bring Me to Life" from the movie "Daredevil" has sold more than six million copies worldwide since its March debut, according to Wind-up Records.

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Are There Clues To Evanescence's Problems In Their New Video?

Now that the news is out that Evanescence co-founder, guitarist and songwriter Ben Moody walked out on his bandmates in the middle of their European tour, fans will undoubtedly look for signs that there were problems brewing before his departure.

The group's video for "My Immortal" may provide some clues. "The video is all about separation," said singer Amy Lee. "I wanted it to depict real human sadness."

Of course, the video treatment came not from the band, but from director David Mouldy, who wanted to parallel the lyrics of the song, which is about a spirit that haunts the memory of a grieving loved one. But there are parallels between the imagery in the video and the current state of Evanescence.

In the video, which was shot in black and white, Moody looks sullen and withdrawn. His shoulders sag and his head slumps forward as he delicately plays piano. Later, he sadly picks up his jacket as if he's about to leave. And when the song kicks into balladic rock mode, the band is shot performing in one room while Moody is in another, with only his piano for companionship.

Throughout the video, Lee is never filmed on ground level. She walks along the ledge of a fountain, sits in a tree and sings lying on top of a building. She also lies atop scaffolding and on the hood of a car surrounded with leaves. The shots are evocative and artistic, resembling a cross between a foreign film and a Chanel advertisement.

"The only rules that I set out were that we didn't want any fake stuff or imaginary things that couldn't really happen," she said.

Mouldy shot "My Immortal" on October 10 in the gothic section of Barcelona, Spain, two weeks before Moody left the band in Berlin. "We did it in a cool, old area of town," Lee said. "We shot some of it at this scenic point, and there was a rooftop where you could see Barcelona below. It was really neat."

The version of "My Immortal" used for the video and radio single isn't the same as the one off the band's record Fallen. Much to Lee's chagrin, Evanescence's label opted to use the band's demo version of the song on the record instead of the album recording.

"The label was stuck on the demo and wouldn't let us use the version we really wanted," Lee said. "We fought back and forth about it and finally we gave in, but we were all so angry about it."

A couple million album sales later, Evanescence have garnered the kind of clout that allows them to call some of the shots. So when "My Immortal" was decided upon as the next single, Evanescence elected to use their preferred recording of the song.

"The version that's on the album is the one everyone has gotten used to hearing, so it might be a little hard for them to accept a new version," she agreed. "But it's really hard for me to listen to the album version because we did it two years ago — it was just me and guitarist Ben [Moody], and I've grown so much as a performer since then."

Not only is Lee unhappy with her vocals, she dislikes just about everything about the demo version. "It's not even a real piano," she groaned. "And the sound quality is bad because we had to break into the studio to record it late at night when no one was around because we couldn't afford a real session."

The new version of "My Immortal" was recorded as a full band and features strings arranged by Beck's dad, David Campbell. While Lee sings the intimate lullaby, the song was written by Moody, and it is purely fictitious.

"That's the difference between us," Lee said. "Ben tends to write like a storyteller, and it's not necessarily from any kind of personal experience. I can't bring myself to write about anything I don't understand completely. For me, writing is always about some specific thing that's happened, so sometimes I feel a little distanced singing the song, but I still love it."

Evanescence's European tour ends November 10 in London. The band is scheduled to launch a new North American leg nine days later in Mexico City. Dates run through December 14 in Mississauga, Ontario, after which the group will head to New Zealand, Australia and Japan.

The "My Immortal" video is scheduled to air in the next couple of weeks.


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