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Old 08-14-03 | 02:10 PM
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*cringe*

I don't think a pension for moody instrumentation and a vocalist with a similar key really makes a band a Joy Division revisionist.
No, but it might make them an Echo and the Bunnymen revisionist...

I think Interpol kinda sound like Joy Division, but they kinda sound like the Bunnymen, too. Doesn't matter anyway - Ian Curtis was one of a kind.
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Old 08-14-03 | 04:41 PM
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Originally posted by Jiber2001
*cringe*

I don't think a pension for moody instrumentation and a vocalist with a similar key really makes a band a Joy Division revisionist.

*Sheesh*
My point was if you like Joy Division you might like Interpol...
Apperently fallow being from the hotbed of great musical opinions state of Virginia has a pension for being a ***.
Okay...I'm not trying to be an *******, I just get tired of that comparison because it seems very stretched. As a fan of both, I like distinguishing them.

Calling a band the "second coming of Joy Division" seems to say much more than "if you like Joy Division, you might like Interpol."

Nevermind the VA comment, it doesn't have anything to do with anything.

Wendersfan, I completely agree - I've always found the E&BM comparison to be much closer.
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Originally posted by fallow
*cringe*

I don't think a pension for moody instrumentation
No, but it's a nice way to retire FWIW I listen to Interpol far more often than JD (or New Order). It's an excellent album.
Old 08-14-03 | 07:20 PM
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I bought Technique based on the artwork back when it was released with no idea who these New Order people were. I immediately loved it and enjoyed them for some time until Depeche Mode's Violator came out. It's all about the music!

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These just got released on Region 1 DVD, saw them at Tower this afternoon:



Old 08-15-03 | 08:22 AM
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Interpol. I think the JD comparison is accurate to a point... I guess saying "if you like..." is probably the best. Personally, I hear 50% Joy D and 50% The Chameleons. I mean, damn, they REALLY sound like The Chameleons at times (guitars).

I noticed that New Order released a box set called "Retro" at the end of 2002. I'm not sure it's something I would "need" since I own all the proper albums, but it would be one of the first times I'd buy something as a collectors item. Wonder if the booklet is worth it? It's only $24 on BMG.
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Personally, I hear 50% Joy D and 50% The Chameleons...
So, nothing is just "Interpol" about Interpol?

I've considered buying the box set myself, but I understand that each disc (4 of 'em) was compiled by a friend/connection of the band and they don't always make the greatest choices. I heard an advanced promo (one disc - 10 songs maybe), and some of the tracks sounded so lo-fi that I couldn't handle it; the version of "Temptation" sounded like a horrible demo recorded through a metal pan. But if you really want to get it as a collector's item, I say, "Yay!" especially for $24. Hell, that's making me re-think it.
Old 08-16-03 | 03:19 AM
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big fan

new order
joy division
depeche mode

all are some of my favorite bands of all time

anyone know how those new order dvd's are? if good im buying!
Old 08-16-03 | 06:03 AM
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fallow... I'm just playing around on the Interpol deal. It's hard for a band to come out today with 100% originality. I will say this... I LOVE that crap! If there was one band I'd like to see live it would be them. Also, they sound a lot like Kitchens of Distinction as well (maybe 23%).

I'm curious what you meant about New Order's lo-fi sound on the box set. I'm going to guess that you've heard the original "Temptation" that was on their vinyl EP... before the remixed version appeared on "Substance"? I have always thought the original was WAY better and I think that's what ended up on the box. I'd buy this thing on BMG, but with 4 discs I think the shipping is PER disc and would probably be an additional $10.
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Originally posted by atlantamoi
I'm curious what you meant about New Order's lo-fi sound on the box set. I'm going to guess that you've heard the original "Temptation" that was on their vinyl EP... before the remixed version appeared on "Substance"? I have always thought the original was WAY better and I think that's what ended up on the box. I'd buy this thing on BMG, but with 4 discs I think the shipping is PER disc and would probably be an additional $10.
The original version of "Temptation" is much better than the one on Substance. That's why I still have my 12" single of it...

Actually, I have most of New Order's singles on 12" vinyl.
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Originally posted by atlantamoi
fallow... I'm just playing around on the Interpol deal. It's hard for a band to come out today with 100% originality. I will say this... I LOVE that crap! If there was one band I'd like to see live it would be them. Also, they sound a lot like Kitchens of Distinction as well (maybe 23%).

I'm curious what you meant about New Order's lo-fi sound on the box set. I'm going to guess that you've heard the original "Temptation" that was on their vinyl EP... before the remixed version appeared on "Substance"? I have always thought the original was WAY better and I think that's what ended up on the box. I'd buy this thing on BMG, but with 4 discs I think the shipping is PER disc and would probably be an additional $10.
I saw Interpol play last December and it was a pretty cool show. I've heard lots of rumors about infighting and the like, but they had a great chemistry on stage. Carlos D and Sam Fogarini's great drum-n-bass lock up comes out like gold in a live setting too. Ace!

Regarding "Temptation", to be honest, I'm not really sure. I'll have to look into it more, but for what it's worth, I don't own Substance or any of their 12"s. That is one New Order track I have on my computer (easy access to dance mixes, of course).
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Sorry to resurrect this thread, but I just bought RETRO ealier this week, and...IT'S AWESOME!!!

I am now hooked. Their songs are great, the beats are great, the members are great, everything is just great ! Regret used to be my favorite song, but I think The Perfect Kiss has now replaced it.

As for the Temptation, I can rip the song off the box for anyone who has the 12" and wants to do a comparison. Sorry for my ranting...
Old 06-06-04 | 04:27 PM
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I would think that if you didn't like New Order, there was something wrong with you. Substance alone makes them great. That is by far one of my favorite albums of all time.
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Regret used to be my favorite song, but I think The Perfect Kiss has now replaced it.
I haven't listened to New Order a great deal, but Regret is probably my favorite song of theirs. I'll have to check out the Perfect Kiss.
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Has anyone had a chance to check out those DVDs?
Old 06-07-04 | 07:10 AM
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I'm a New Order fan, makes me nostalgic for the 80's.
Old 06-07-04 | 10:03 AM
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i got into em last year. i love em. catchy, fun songs. if i made music, thats the kind of music i would make
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yea im 18, straight guy and could care less who knows i like new order
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I guess my favorite New Order song is "Temptation" followed closely by "Age of Consent."
Old 06-07-04 | 04:13 PM
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I got the New Order 316 DVD for Christmas. Always been a huge N.O. fan. However, I have to admit they aren't always the best live. But it's still a good DVD and concert. I prefer their studio work.
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I like New Order's albums - but their songs don't translate too well live. Also, they're rather life-less and boring live. So I assume that their live dvds aren't too special.
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I got the 511 DVD (and I think it's under $10 at DDD), and I think it's great. They may be a bit older and fatter, but this is a great sounding show, with Hook's bass up front. The JD songs they play are a bit of a mixed bag. They say in the show that they hadn't played some of those songs for 25 years, and with Digital, it sounds like it. But man, She's Lost Control kicks a$$!! Transmission and Love Will Tear us Apart sound fine. Also, I was very impressed with the new song 60 Miles an Hour---sounds great live. I thought this DVD was well worth it, and anamorphic widescreen, too.
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I like JD & New Order. a much older cousin of mine got me into them around the time Republic came out.

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I also love New Order, don't miss out on Technique and Brotherhood, two of the best albums ever. Retro is a great box, the fan CD is awesome start to finish.

It always amazes me how many people only know New Order for Blue Monday and BLT, and have never heard their more guitar driven songs.

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