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I saw A Perfect Circle last night at the opera house in Toronto and it was an amazing show.

I got there around 5 pm with my girlfriend, started walking around the area went to a small cafe to eat dinner and then went back to the venue around 6 pm.

As we got there there were about 25 people in line so we decided to stay and wait in line, and good thing we did because just a few minutes after that lots of people started arriving. As I stood in line I looked behind me and noticed a few of the roadies in the back with music equipment with Tool stickers on them. About 5 minutes later I look back again and I see the man himself Danny Carey standing there talking with one of the guys from Pigmy Love Circus and some roadies. I kinda froze for a second because I couldn't believe it was him, and when I was about to go up and ask him for an autograph a bunch of people started mobbing him and then soon after that he went for a walk with the rest of the guys and dissapeared . Now on to the show.

At about 8:30 pm Pigmy hit the stage. I think the best way to describe them is a cross between Motorhead and Alice Cooper. I went in with some low expectations about them, but they were definitely better than what I expected. The singer is a little too weird for my taste, but man did the band rock especially Danny. The man is the best rock drummer in the world, and if you have any doubts go see the Pigmy's live.

Then the Pigmy set ended there was a short wait and A Perfect Circle hit the stage. They opened with a song called "Pet" from their new album and man did it rock!. I think this is my favorite APC song at the moment, it is really great and an excellent opener for a show. The band seemed in a really good mood and they played every song flawlessly. It was truely a beautiful thing to watch. Maynard hit every note very well and I really enjoyed a lot of the new songs live like "The Nurse Who Loved me", "The Outsider", and "The Package". It was a great night overall and I will definitely see them again next time they come around to Toronto.

I was able to hear the new album today. I can say it sounds nothing like their first album. This album doesnt have that pop sound like Mer de Noms did. This album is really darker. I'd say a cross match between Cure, Pink Floyd & Tool. "The Nurse Who Loved Me" sounds absolutely NOTHING like what they have been playing live. One other thing that I nothiced. Maynards voice is really raw on this album.

Outsider, Gravity & Pet are my definete favs so far after one listen.

Definitely not as accessible as the first album but I like it nonetheless. I heard someone describe it as sounding like
an evil Simon and Garfunkel.

agree with MJKTool about "the Nurse Who Loved Me". and IMO this album has a "quietness" about it [sort of like Trent's "the Fragile"].

faves so far: Vanishing, Lullaby & Gravity

between this, john mayer, travis, sting, outkast, erykah badu & dido, i'm suffering from new release overload..

..and it's only going to get worse..

I've listened to some songs from the new album as well and I have to say "The Noose" is my absolute favorite. I am in love with this song, absolutely amazing IMO.

Only heard the songs I saw live so far. I can't say what my favorite is yet though. I'm not downloading any of it though because I don't wanna ruin the experience on tuesday. I hate you guys . hehe.

Amazing album. It really shocked me the first time I hear it because it is such a depart from their first album.

OH I CAN'T WAIT!!!!!!

"The Nurse Who Loved Me" is actually a cover of Failure, one of my favorite bands. I like what I hear from this album.

Well, I haven't been able to listen as closely as I would like. However, I listened to it 5 times today at work and I'm BLOWN AWAY by it. Simply amazing, very moody and dark. Very quiet but crafty, great melodies. When it gets rocking, like in "the package" or "pet" I couldn't help but smile ear to ear.

Awesome, can't really compare to Mer de Noms cuz it's quite different in some ways. WOW!

ME SO HAPPY!

I just got tickets to see them November 29th, and I'm curious, how long is their setlist usually?

Lollapalooza was about an hour and 15 minutes, but I would imagine on a solo set, it might be more like an hour and a half.

I've only seen them opening, never headlining (NIN and lollapalooza.)

Yer lucky though, they aren't coming out my at all so far.

A Perfect Circle Honing Unity On The Road

After exiting Marilyn Manson in June 2002 to concentrate on his solo career, Jeordie Osborne White (aka Twiggy Ramirez) had a chance meeting last New Year's Eve with A Perfect Circle's Billy Howerdel and Josh Freese that lead to his joining the band.

"I really wasn't looking for another band," White tells Billboard.com. "I had two auditions at the time. I auditioned for Metallica and APC within six days of each other. Both of those bands approached me. I just got out of a big band and wasn't really running to get involved in another one. But it just sort of ended up working out, and the music was right and everything was in the right place at the right time. It just worked out that way."

White admits that APC, which recently released its second Virgin disc, "Thirteenth Step," is more technically challenging compared to his duties in Marilyn Manson. As for breaking ranks with the latter, where he had spent nearly a decade writing "pretty much 95% of all of the music," the June 2002 decision was a simple one for many reasons.

"Pretty much creative, personal, financial," says White. "I was just looking to do something different. It wasn't like I left to do my own thing. I kind of left because it just really wasn't doing it for me anymore. It wasn't like if you were married and you meet someone else, and you want to leave for that. It was just not working out anymore."

From there, White worked with Queens Of The Stone Age's Josh Homme on the recently released "Desert Sessions Vol. 9-10" album, and focused on his own material, which won't be released as a solo project. Instead, he hopes to eventually put a band together, with perhaps a revolving door of members. The bassist acknowledges the appeal of joining APC was the eventual downtime expected between releases, when lead singer Maynard James Keenan returns to Tool to work on that band's next project.

While White played on the entirety of "Thirteenth Step," he has songwriting credits for two tracks ("The Package" and "Crimes"). "I think on the next record, we're kind of shooting for a little more of a band effort," says White. "We play together so well now. This band is really strong and we really want to capture that. We didn't really have that while we were making the record because I had just joined and we didn't even have James [Iha, formerly of the Smashing Pumpkins] yet. So, you have this great band that we're touring with that is not really 100% on the record that we made."

APC begins a month-long arena tour of the States on Halloween (Oct. 31) in San Antonio, followed by a slot on Australia's Big Day Out festival early next year. White expects APC to tour through the summer.

from [BILLBOARD.com]

Saw them at Pantages Theater in minneapolis back in august and have tickets for the dec 5 show at the Xcel Arena. Can't wait!

I have fourth row tickets for the Albany, NY show in November.

I sure hope they visit Cali before Maynard goes back to Tool.

Me too.

They will. This is only the first round of dates. They are going to tour through the summer apparantly.

I love this band.

They better make the rounds in the Spring 2004 for the rest
of the United States.

alright guys,
I bought this on release day, waited patiently for it, and........christ, this is dull, lurching along at funeral procession pace. I gave it what, month and a half, cannot get into it, never will. I can see it sitting on my bookself forever collecting dust, so I will probably send it off sooner or later....This cd is as bloated and pretentious as Lateralus. I think it must be viewed realistically, past all of our devotion of Maynard and things Tool and realize this really is a lousy record. "The Noose" is amazing....I can "rock" to it, but I feel no connection, lyrically or musically, it's tedious, bland and yes, I hate to say this, but disposable....Once it is gone, I will never cry....I haven't been disappointed with one release from my favorites this year: Dandy Warhols, Tindersticks, Twilight Singers, Badu, Roots, Placebo, but this? Definetly.

I've read all the effusive remarks in this thread since it started, but cannot feel the same. This will probably the only time I ever get rid of a cd by one of my favorite bands/musicians.

Not sure I would recommend selling it, but I have to agree I was pretty disappointed. There's just not enough to hold my interest and keep me coming back for more. I think the "evil Simon & Garfunkel" comment earlier was pretty close to the mark... but there's a reason I don't listen to S&G all that often.

Me, personally, I thought it was a lot more mature and involing than Mer De Noms. But, like everything it comes down to personal opiinion and personal taste.

I absolutely love the album. I have been listening to it non stop for over a month now. Sure glad I dont share the same negative opinion.

of all the people on this board, MJK, I would never expect you not to like it.