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RobStone 05-22-03 06:47 AM

When you think of NWA albums do you count Dr. Dre's Solo Album's?

--Rob

SnoopDogg 05-22-03 10:37 AM


Originally posted by RobStone
I was not counting solo albums. The Wu-Tang as a group had 1 good album. Wu-Tang Forever took forever to make and was not worth it. Iron Flag just sucked, and sucked hard. Nas had illmatic, and a few good songs on It was written, after that it was all just music to make music. I am not saying the dude doesn't have talent but what I am saying is he is making commercial music just to get paid. Atleast that's how I feel about it. Also Jay-Z's the Blueprint sucked. HOVA, lol. If I had a catchphrase I could sell a million albums too.

--Rob

Something makes me think you don't listen to the whole cd to make a judgement. Did you just listen to H to the Izzo off blueprint? And make up your mind?

Also Stillmatic and Godson were decent to pretty good I think.

Maybe I guess thats just my opinion.

RobStone 05-22-03 10:54 AM

I sure did. I try to give everything a full test drive before I make a decision. His vocab and flow are no where near where he was when he was just doing cameos on **** like Big L's Lifestyles of the poor and dangerous and even reasonable doubt. It's a shame too because he was the man, too bad. Once you sell out, you never go back.

--Rob

the aftermath 05-22-03 03:20 PM


Originally posted by Aghama
That really doesn't make sense, even disregarding the fact that Wu-Tang Forever is great.
Agreed.

Chopper 05-22-03 04:53 PM


Originally posted by Aghama
That really doesn't make sense, even disregarding the fact that Wu-Tang Forever is great.
My opinion on Wu-Tang Forever (and it's been a while since I've listened to it) was that this CD would have been much, much better if it was only 1 CD, as opposed to a double. Seemed like there was too much excess crap to go through...

But it's been a while... Maybe I'd feel differently if I listened to it again.

Phyre 05-22-03 05:05 PM

Everyone knows Forever is bloated but it never the less a terrific album with more than a dozen great beats and highly improved lyricism from most member. The W grows on me as well, but Iron Flag blew.

Aghama 05-23-03 06:52 AM


Originally posted by RobStone
When you think of NWA albums do you count Dr. Dre's Solo Album's?
Of course not, but the individual Wu albums aren't side projects. The whole point of Wu-Tang was to have group and solo albums.

Jason 05-24-03 06:43 PM

Picked up a CD by Jedi Mind Tricks today based on this tread. Excellent! I've seen people praise some things here that I've found to be unlistenable, but this is really cool stuff.

zerotl 05-25-03 12:41 AM

Wow, I'm a long time dvdtalker, but never frequented this corner, the music thread, and I agree with most of you guys. I'm glad people out there are still selective with musical preference.

Here's some that might not have been mentioned.
Killer Mike >> This guy is hardcore (you guys will prolly agree with his position or rap business)
Prince Paul >> Prince Among Thieves is one if not the most underrated rap albums of all time
RJD2 >> Nice Stuff
More props to Lost Boyz and Gangstarr . Some people that made hiphop fun, and a group that's still true to their game.....

+ What do you guys think of common doing that coke commercial right after putting out that 10 ways to save hiphop article on RollingStone?

Let's keep this thread going, got some nice tips here, oh and let's keep supporting these guys by buying their cds.

zerotl 05-25-03 12:49 AM


Originally posted by rabbit77
This thread is years old and although I do love and listen to all these great rap artists, props must be given to the DJ's and turntablists too!

QBert
Mixmastermike
Invisibl Skratch Piklz
DJ Shadow
Numark
Xecutioners

Amen to that!!! Everyone go and buy the SCRATCH dvd NOW!!!! I'm also eyeing that stylz wars dvd, will be mine soon.

Tarantino 08-12-06 02:35 AM

Time to resurrect an old thread...

The Others
The Perceptionists
Louis Logic
Jean Grae
Psalm One
Soul Position
Masta Ace
Ras Kass

= J

DrRingDing 08-12-06 04:53 AM

Obviously not much love for <b>Missy Elliott</b>, who at the very least has provided some interesting (in a good way) albums with excellent videos.

And other (surprisingly) unmentioned folks, some less well-known than Missy:
<b>Little Brother
Murs (& 9th Wonder)</b>
early <b>LL Cool J</b> (<i>Radio</i> is classic!)
<b>M.I.A.</b>

and goin' waaaay back:
<b>Gil Scott Heron</b>

jessecrx 08-12-06 12:01 PM

Some vids to help jog some memories. Hope these help
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWUFbn3AA8Q

VH1's And It Don't Stop 30 Years of Hip Hop
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSO5nmawmNI


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