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Anybody like this film? I'm guessing no.
I thought it was great!! I can't understand why everyone hates it. It has this mysterious aura to it, I don't know, but I think it's good. Depp is a great actor. So what do you guys think and why? |
Yeah, I pretty much was the only person I know who saw it when it was in the theater and did NOT feel ripped off. It was a cool, eerie story. I think most were pissed that
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I think the problem most had with it is it wasn't very "American". It left loose ends with that vague, unsatisfying ending. I don't see how the same people who bash this movie can praise The Beyond. I enjoyed it. |
I was dissappointed with it. I thought it would be a really good, thoughtful, dialogue driven suspense film. Unfortunately I just thought it was boring, made little sense, and had horrible pacing.
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I enjoyed the movie up to and excluding the ending.
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Originally posted by nazz I enjoyed the movie up to and excluding the ending. |
The ending wasn't too bad! It was a very weird sexual scene, but still..
The woman turned out to be the devil's agent, and then invited Johnny Depp into the hell as a guest.. I think that's it, correct me if I'm wrong! |
Originally posted by TheCLovur The ending wasn't too bad! It was a very weird sexual scene, but still.. The woman turned out to be the devil's agent, and then invited Johnny Depp into the hell as a guest.. I think that's it, correct me if I'm wrong! Spoiler:
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From what i got from it... the girl was
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but i can be wrong. the ending really didn't make sense to me. it really was the only thing that this movie lacked in. a ending |
Originally posted by TheCLovur The ending wasn't too bad! It was a very weird sexual scene, but still.. The woman turned out to be the devil's agent, and then invited Johnny Depp into the hell as a guest.. I think that's it, correct me if I'm wrong! |
I liked it a lot, and I'm planning on picking it up on DVD sometime soon. I agree that maybe it wasn't typically "American" or "Hollywood" -- and that's WHY I liked it! I like movies that are different and not predictable.
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Hmm, let's see. This woman tried to kill me. I think I'll have sex with her.
(fast forward) Hmm, let's see. This woman is killing people and flying down stairs. I think I'll have sex with her. I can't believe I paid four bucks to rent this crap and help put money into the pockets of a child molester. |
Originally posted by noellyg Hmm, let's see. This woman tried to kill me. I think I'll have sex with her. (fast forward) Hmm, let's see. This woman is killing people and flying down stairs. I think I'll have sex with her. I can't believe I paid four bucks to rent this crap and help put money into the pockets of a child molester. I also enjoyed this film, a good dark thriller. |
I still woulda banged her. But I'm a moron. |
I liked the movie very much, until the ending. For being
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I saw it a week ago last night, and I liked it quite a bit. It put a somewhat different twist on this type of movie, and was pretty interesting. I could've done without the ending, but it wasn't that bad. Not like it ruined it for me. Although I didn't exactly see the point in it, like it didn't resolve much.
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I really liked the mellow level of camp in this film, and Depp's performance was very nice and subtle too. The ending was so over the top though it makes you think that either
a. the whole film should have be more blatently campy or b. the ending should have been much less blatently over the top. |
I've just watched The Ninth Gate twice the past two days (both times sans commentary), and I have to say this movie is rapidly climbing my overall list of favorite movies. I honestly can't put my finger on exactly why it's so good. Sure, there's things wrong with it (plot has holes, castle/orgy sequence pretty campy, galactically befuddling ending), but I still like it.
It gives me chills to see it, and I like the idea of Johnny Depp investigating old places in Europe, obscure and occult books. It's also kind of funny to see the book collectors talk about their collections and thinking they're outcasts and meanwhile next to my TV are my hundreds of DVDs. :lol: I bumped this thread because I'm wondering if there's anyone here that actually likes this movie this much -- most people seem to have unkind words to say to it (as I did when I first saw it in the theatre) but it's grown on me. Which brings me to my last point: what other movies have this general mood about them? The Ninth Gate is just excellent at establishing this really creepy mood and with the exception of Se7en I can't think of any other movies that do this off the top of my head. |
I enjoyed it. Much like Mulholland Drive, it took another viewing to appreciate the clues and figure the story out. Someone on another forum posted his thoughts of which I'll paste here. Not as long as that Salon article on Mulholland Dr.:)
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I like this movie a lot and found the ending pretty damn cool...I haven't seen it for a few years, but how is the commentary by Polanski? That was one of my main reasons for purchasing and I've never gotten around to watching or listening to it yet.
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A little off topic, but oh well:
I actually purchased this a month or 1 ago(with Stir of Echos, both as blind buys), and if anyone wants to trade or purchase it from me, please email me at kneijst1 AT hotmail DOT com. I thought it was okay, but I also did not like the ending, hence I doubt I will want to see it again. |
actually, I have just watched it a few times also this week and i find it excellent. the girl is the devil i believe. she is hot and even if she was going to kill me i would still get some. I thought a sequel was in the works with the writer of the first one directing and writing the second to be called "the devil's beauty". of course depp would have to be in it for it to be good. I thought it was better than the others, sixth sense, stir of echoes, and the ring.
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Originally posted by The Bus I've just watched The Ninth Gate twice the past two days (both times sans commentary), and I have to say this movie is rapidly climbing my overall list of favorite movies. I honestly can't put my finger on exactly why it's so good. Sure, there's things wrong with it (plot has holes, castle/orgy sequence pretty campy, galactically befuddling ending), but I still like it. It gives me chills to see it, and I like the idea of Johnny Depp investigating old places in Europe, obscure and occult books. It's also kind of funny to see the book collectors talk about their collections and thinking they're outcasts and meanwhile next to my TV are my hundreds of DVDs. :lol: I bumped this thread because I'm wondering if there's anyone here that actually likes this movie this much -- most people seem to have unkind words to say to it (as I did when I first saw it in the theatre) but it's grown on me. Which brings me to my last point: what other movies have this general mood about them? The Ninth Gate is just excellent at establishing this really creepy mood and with the exception of Se7en I can't think of any other movies that do this off the top of my head. |
Good creepy movie. I really enjoy it for whatever reason.
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I've come to enjoy this film more after listening to Polanski's thoughts on it. Not one of his best by far, but it's become more enjoyable after subsequent viewings. The commentary itself is quite good as he delves into fairly detailed descriptions of the meanings behind many of the characters etc. Also for those not in the know, The Devil as she has been called here is actually Emmanuelle Seigner a former covergirl model who is Polanski's wife and has appeared in a few of his other films most notably 'Frantic' with Harrison Ford and 'Bitter Moon' with Hugh Grant and Kristin Scott Thomas.
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I just watched this last night. Very atmospheric and creepy. I enjoyed it a lot. Hannibal's post above helps to answer some of the cryptic stuff in the movie.
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I liked the film and agree with Hannibal ( You raised a lot good pionts..) To catch alot of this you have to watch it several times. After watching it in the theatre, I decided to read the book (Club Dumas) which really seemed a combination between Ninth Gate and Eyes Wide Shut. I actually like the movie a little better than the book. As Hannibal said ( It was hard to read youall your comments all the way through between my old mouse and slow computer.) many of the people are in the pictures. All this talk I just might watch it tonight with the commentary and comment more on it later.
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I was shocked to find out I actually liked the movie when the credits started rolling.
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I thought it was an awesome movie.
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It's been said before...
But I'll say it again... I was a little disappointed in the "Polanski I know and love" the first time I saw "The Ninth Gate". Then, several months later, I got this insane compulsion to see it again solely for the atmosphere I remembered. And then, everything fell into place. It was much more magical the second time and I'm sure it goes on growing on the viewer with each repetition. I also got into the very simple, direct, moral point Polanski is making about violence and the concept of evil, all lessons I'm sure he learned from personal experience, from being both a victim and a hunted criminal, and which sort of make him the anti-Tarantino. That is: Tarantino, who has had no life outside a movie house, makes movies that condone violence as a form of entertaiment and Polanski, who has had the sad, meandering life of an exile because of it and other ordeals, makes films that condemn it unequivocally.
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This is definitely one that gets better with repeated viewings, and I think that it's reputation will improve as time goes on.
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Re: It's been said before...
Originally posted by baracine But I'll say it again... I was a little disappointed in the "Polanski I know and love" the first time I saw "The Ninth Gate". Then, several months later, I got this insane compulsion to see it again solely for the atmosphere I remembered. And then, everything fell into place. It was much more magical the second time and I'm sure it goes on growing on the viewer with each repetition. I also got into the very simple, direct, moral point Polanski is making about violence and the concept of evil, all lessons I'm sure he learned from personal experience, from being both a victim and a hunted criminal, and which sort of make him the anti-Tarantino. That is: Tarantino, who has had no life outside a movie house, makes movies that condone violence as a form of entertaiment and Polanski, who has had the sad, meandering life of an exile because of it and other ordeals, makes films that condemn it unequivocally. i can think of one of Polanski's "beloved" moraly action that just hit a news headline recently... but i don't think this is the place to "bash" him or anybody for that matter.... we're talking about Ninth Gate.... so, what does Quentin Tarantino got to do with it? :mad: |
I thought it was a cool movie, but no one else I know does haha.
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It's been said before...
Originally posted by BlackBeauty92 we're talking about Ninth Gate.... so, what does Quentin Tarantino got to do with it? Funny how any less-than-sycophantic opinion about Tarantino always brings about such "violent" reactions! Clear enough? |
first movie I sold on e-bay after watching it. It just didn't click with me. It was paced slow but I don't think that is what I didn't like.
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Originally posted by baracine Funny how any less-than-sycophantic opinion about Tarantino always brings about such "violent" reactions! yes, i'm pretty much clear on your opinion |
I liked it and plan to eventually own it.
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I love the Ninth Gate, too. Depp gives a great performance, and the mood of the movie is great. I've seen it a few times and I like it more every time. The ending is indeed weird, but i can't think of anyway other way for it to end and was actually a little in the dark. So thanks everyone for all your opinions and thoughts, it's helped to clarify a few things for me, and made me enjoy it a little more.
I also want to say to baracine, I think you really really misjudge Tarantino. Tarantino does not condone violence or glorify it. The only one of his movies that is violent (i have not seen Jackie Brown) is Kill Bill, but that is a completely different movie, and i don't believe it really condones anything, that's just meant to be entertaining in the simpliest way. If you have seen either Pulp Fiction or Reservoir Dogs, you would see that there is very little violence actually happening. The most notorious scene in RD is not even something you see. Also, if you notice what happens to any of the criminals or bad guys in his movies, they get what they deserve. Also Pulp Fiction happens to be a movie about honour and redemption, and actually really does condone violence. Tarantino himself is very anti-violent in his real life, in fact he just sees violence as another tool for a filmmaker to tell his story. He actually likes that people think his films are so violent because that just says he's a great filmmaker, portraying something so well that it makes it more than it really is. Anyway, sorry about goin off topic a little, yes I love the Ninth Gate, but I can see how it turns some people off. Everyone has their own tastes, and i think this film is for a very particular taste only. |
Great thread... and thanks for the editorial Hannibal, very helpful.
I too enjoyed the movie... the storyline, the characters and the mood were extremely good... In addition, I didn't like the ending very much either... I wanted an ending more along these lines... Johnny Depp successfully opening the ninth gate... A dramatic special effects ridden scene with the gate opening as the camera moves into the gate and blackness... An evil laugh... Credits... |
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