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Old 07-28-24 | 03:27 PM
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Re: Deadpool & Wolverine (2024, D: Levy) -- The Spoiler-Filled Reviews Thread

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Well that's a snobby and elitist approach to that era of music. Such an argument could be made for the stuff of the late 90s as that seems to be when the industry as a whole took a dive. But the early years saw such stuff as Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Nirvana , the Metallica black album, the two big G n R albums , and the Red Hot Chili Peppers. Addressing the fanbase for the ones you didn't like the way you did borders on generation bashing.

Glad to see the movie did well, but hope the suits don't see it as an excuse to continue milking the comic book genre. I think it's played out and this movie did a good job of showing such through its humor.
Yeah really. The soundtrack was one of the best parts of the movie.
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Old 07-28-24 | 05:00 PM
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Well that's a snobby and elitist approach to that era of music. Such an argument could be made for the stuff of the late 90s as that seems to be when the industry as a whole took a dive. But the early years saw such stuff as Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Nirvana , the Metallica black album, the two big G n R albums , and the Red Hot Chili Peppers. Addressing the fanbase for the ones you didn't like the way you did borders on generation bashing.

Glad to see the movie did well, but hope the suits don't see it as an excuse to continue milking the comic book genre. I think it's played out and this movie did a good job of showing such through its humor.
I enjoyed the songs from the 80s but hated the boy band bullshit they used. You enjoyed them and that's cool, too.
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Re: Deadpool & Wolverine (2024, D: Levy) -- The Spoiler-Filled Reviews Thread

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I enjoyed the songs from the 80s but hated the boy band bullshit they used. You enjoyed them and that's cool, too.
Some people 'want it that way.'
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Old 07-28-24 | 08:36 PM
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OK, I liked the movie a lot, but I didn't love it. I loved some of the cameos, and I laughed really loud for some of the jokes, and I thought the movie was fun, overall. The problem is the story just isn't as engaging as the first two Deadpool movies. The style is off, slightly, too. And I've got Multiverse burnout going a little.

I would give the movie 3 3/4 stars out of 5, but that's not an option, so I went with 4 in the poll.

I'm looking forward to watching it again on Blu Ray. I need to watch the first Wolverine movie tonight to see Reynolds in his first shot at Wade Wilson. "The Pool," wasn't really Deadpool, and I get why so many fans were pissed about that, but if memory serves he did a good job as Wade Wilson in that one.
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Re: Deadpool & Wolverine (2024, D: Levy) -- The Spoiler-Filled Reviews Thread

Originally Posted by Draven
So glad Marvel has another hit on their hands - them being able to shit on both Fox and DC was perfection.
To be fair, NO ONE got shit on harder (and more deservingly) than Post-Endgame Marvel. ("You're coming in at a low point...")
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Old 07-29-24 | 09:01 AM
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Re: Deadpool & Wolverine (2024, D: Levy) -- The Spoiler-Filled Reviews Thread

IGN put out a pretty scathing editorial on this movie this morning. He hated it, while I just found it a little underwhelming. That said he makes some fair points -- specifically how it shits on the well earned legacy of Logan, and how it mocks the multiversal storytelling of the MCU but does a far worse job of it than Spider-Man: No Way Home

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Old 07-29-24 | 09:52 AM
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I liked Logan as much as anyone but to me it’s a bit silly acting like it was so definitive. The movie largely stood on its own and the rest of the X-Men movies were so all over the place in terms of continuity. If anything what was done in Deadpool & Wolverine was pretty much par for the course in relation to the Fox Marvel/X-Men universe.
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Old 07-29-24 | 10:00 AM
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I liked Logan as much as anyone but to me it’s a bit silly acting like it was so definitive. The movie largely stood on its own and the rest of the X-Men movies were so all over the place in terms of continuity. If anything what was done in Deadpool & Wolverine was pretty much par for the course in relation to the Fox Marvel/X-Men universe.
While comic book readers are long accustomed to retcons and such where past stories suddenly become forgotten or meaningless, that's probably a new concept for fans who only know Marvel through the MCU. So it makes sense that a filmgoer could have loved Logan and feel as if Deadpool 3 cheapened or maybe even made it meaningless. And while the X-Men movies were a mess, the MCU has mostly maintained a cohesive and coherent story.
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Some people 'want it that way.'
Tell me why
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Old 07-29-24 | 10:09 AM
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While comic book readers are long accustomed to retcons and such where past stories suddenly become forgotten or meaningless, that's probably a new concept for fans who only know Marvel through the MCU. So it makes sense that a filmgoer could have loved Logan and feel as if Deadpool 3 cheapened or maybe even made it meaningless. And while the X-Men movies were a mess, the MCU has mostly maintained a cohesive and coherent story.
But again, the X-Men movies retconned things constantly. Those movies are so loosely tied together. I’m sure the person who wrote the IGN article knows this too. It’s just a silly complaint in my opinion.
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I went into this with only having seen the original Super Bowl teaser. I avoided pretty much all other discussion, trailers, and articles about the movie. I'm glad I did, as I wasn't spoiled on any of the cameos. I'll agree with the people who said they enjoyed it, but don't see how this movie is supposed to mark some major change in the MCU.
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But again, the X-Men movies retconned things constantly. Those movies are so loosely tied together. I’m sure the person who wrote the IGN article knows this too. It’s just a silly complaint in my opinion.
And I'm saying it's reasonable for people to have different expectations about the MCU than they might have had with the X-Men movies. But the reality is that whatever long-term plans the MCU once had -- and followed through on -- the wheels have clearly come off.

And I agree it's all silly. Either they are fun, or they aren't. That's what matters.
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I went into this with only having seen the original Super Bowl teaser. I avoided pretty much all other discussion, trailers, and articles about the movie. I'm glad I did, as I wasn't spoiled on any of the cameos. I'll agree with the people who said they enjoyed it, but don't see how this movie is supposed to mark some major change in the MCU.
It firmly establishes mutants, adamantium and all legacy Fox characters as a part of the MCU.
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It firmly establishes mutants, adamantium and all legacy Fox characters as a part of the MCU.
But.... Deadpool was returned to his universe with his friends, not the MCU's sacred timeline
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But.... Deadpool was returned to his universe with his friends, not the MCU's sacred timeline
I'm saying it made the connections stronger and tied the Fox and MCU universes more firmly together (which we've already seen some of in Doctor Strange 2 and The Marvels).

I'm not saying it's a monumental shift in the MCU, but it does clearly solidfy that Snipes's Blade, Elektra, Johnny-Storm-As-Played-By-Chris-Evans and everything else definitely exists in the MCU's multiverse.
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I'm saying it made the connections stronger and tied the Fox and MCU universes more firmly together (which we've already seen some of in Doctor Strange 2 and The Marvels).

I'm not saying it's a monumental shift in the MCU, but it does clearly solidfy that Snipes's Blade, Elektra, Johnny-Storm-As-Played-By-Chris-Evans and everything else definitely exists in the MCU's multiverse.

I've always seen the concept of the multiverse as Feige's way of basically saying that any Marvel IP by any studio is now canon in its own unique way. This movie really seemed to hammer home that concept.
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Re: Deadpool & Wolverine (2024, D: Levy) -- The Spoiler-Filled Reviews Thread

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IGN put out a pretty scathing editorial on this movie this morning. He hated it, while I just found it a little underwhelming. That said he makes some fair points -- specifically how it shits on the well earned legacy of Logan, and how it mocks the multiversal storytelling of the MCU but does a far worse job of it than Spider-Man: No Way Home
https://x.com/IGN/status/1817915754211144168?s=19

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"and how it mocks the multiversal storytelling of the MCU" -- GOOD. It's been fucking awful.
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"and how it mocks the multiversal storytelling of the MCU" -- GOOD. It's been fucking awful.
Did you think No Way Home was awful? I thought that was a great use of the concept.
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Can someone give a quick recap of the timelines? Were they in the MCU at the end or back in Deadpool's original timeline?
Given that Vanessa mentioned Wade's meeting with Happy, and the screencaps specifically noted 616, that was hazy from the get-go...
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Meh, it was OK. A little Ryan Reynolds goes a long way for me. The Chris Evans twist was probably the best part. I was expecting cameos from all the original X-Men; there weren't any.
By the halfway point, I was expecting a handful of them to turn up...... as corpses in Wolverine's flashback memory.

Seems like that would have been hilarious, on-brand and fulfill the wish to see more X-Men.
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Given that Vanessa mentioned Wade's meeting with Happy, and the screencaps specifically noted 616, that was hazy from the get-go...
Just got back from a second viewing. He went to see Happy in 616 in 2018 (scene opened with the date on a desk calendar thing). He still had his time travel device on his wrist so it was right after the events of DP2.

Then the movie jumped to Universe 10005 (Deadpool’s universe) where it stayed the rest of the film when they weren’t in the void. That was the timeline they were trying to save.
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The Wolverine variants from across the comics montage was neat -- I dug that 80s Logan standing in the alley - he had the coolest hair, and of course "Cavillrine" was cool, too.
Agreed. They were all very well done, memorable and iconic - and well undercut by Reynolds, too.
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So what happened to Domino and how is Shatterstar still alive when he was turned to green jelly from landing in the helicopter blades in part 2?
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So what happened to Domino and how is Shatterstar still alive when he was turned to green jelly from landing in the helicopter blades in part 2?
I’m assuming they just didn’t write in Domino’s return but I think the implication is that Deadpool went back and rescued the rest of X-Force too in addition to Peter.
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Originally Posted by HeIsTheZissou
While comic book readers are long accustomed to retcons and such where past stories suddenly become forgotten or meaningless, that's probably a new concept for fans who only know Marvel through the MCU. So it makes sense that a filmgoer could have loved Logan and feel as if Deadpool 3 cheapened or maybe even made it meaningless..
Which is why they did three things: 1. A short speech praising Logan and querying how D&W would treat it respectfully (concluding they wouldn't), 2. Literally dig up his corpse thereby a) reinforcing that he did die, stays dead and that was a finale for the character and b) fulfilling the crass promise of disrespect, and 3. Recruiting an alternate Wolverine after viewing AofA, Patch, 5ft, Old Man and Cavillrine (et al.).

Logan is dead. The End. Long Live Wolverine!


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