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Old 05-21-24 | 09:16 PM
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Re: Movies that get a bad rap?

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Count me as a Dark Phoenix fan. (Opinion somewhat influenced by how gorgeous Sophie Turner is.) I wasn't crazy about the scale, but I feel like it got all the emotional beats right.
I also enjoy that movie. I like the younger and older casts mixing and it just continues in that film.
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Old 05-21-24 | 10:05 PM
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Re: Movies that get a bad rap?

Originally Posted by GoldenJCJ
Sophie Turner is pretty. Unfortunately, she can’t act for shit.
Guess I'm going to be rewatching this tonight.
Old 05-21-24 | 10:20 PM
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The Shadow, S: Alec Baldwin. It was a critical and financial flop. The movie absolutely nails the look and feel of 1930s pulp stories, but evidently that isn't what people want. I prefer The Shadow to the more popular Rocketeer. Rocketeer is based on a comic which was a 1980s nostalgic take on the 1930s pulps.

I have that on Blu-ray and it was fun though kind of cheesy and maybe unintentionally funny with Baldwin's voice for the Shadow.

Penelope Ann Miller was awful in that however.
Old 05-21-24 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by JeffTheAlpaca
Daredevil with Ben Affleck

It is not Raging Bull but entertaining.
The extended Director's Cut is quite good. I really like it.
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Old 05-22-24 | 05:53 AM
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Re: Movies that get a bad rap?

Iron Man 2 is not nearly as bad as everyone says it is. I am glad though that over the years it seems like Iron Man 3 has garnered a worse rap than 2. When it first came out it seemed like the consensus was that IM3 > IM2. But now it seems to be reversed.
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Old 05-22-24 | 06:45 AM
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Iron Man 2 is not nearly as bad as everyone says it is. I am glad though that over the years it seems like Iron Man 3 has garnered a worse rap than 2. When it first came out it seemed like the consensus was that IM3 > IM2. But now it seems to be reversed.
I love Iron Man 2. It’s got a real madcap energy. Love the suitcase suit, the palladium discovery/creation scenes, Mickey Rourke’s bird, the hearing scene, Sam Rockwell, War Machine and the introduction of Black Widow. I love IM3 too but I’ve never thought IM2 was a lesser film.
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Old 05-22-24 | 06:47 AM
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Re: Movies that get a bad rap?

Originally Posted by Draven
I love Iron Man 2. It’s got a real madcap energy. Love the suitcase suit, the palladium discovery/creation scenes, Mickey Rourke’s bird, the hearing scene, Sam Rockwell, War Machine and the introduction of Black Widow. I love IM3 too but I’ve never thought IM2 was a lesser film.
Yup! Iron Man 2 is great.
Old 05-22-24 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Paff
Quentin Tarantino's Death Proof. I think too many people misinterpreted QT's "this has to be my worst movie" comment as meaning even he dislikes it. Instead, I think he was referring to the fact that a lot of his critically acclaimed films are inspired by B-movies, this had to be his B-movie that gets treated like a B-movie. But he still loves it.
For me it was just that it followed Planet Terror, which I really liked at the time. I haven't tried Death Proof again since the theater.
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I hadn’t seen Death Proof since its dvd release up until a few months ago and was very surprised at how much I enjoyed it. Would easily put it ahead of Hateful 8 and possibly even Inglorious Basterds which I know I’m in the minority in thinking anything not involving the Basterds or Hans Landa is a total bore. That probably only accounts for 10-20% of the film but that’s a lot of fat for a Tarantino pic especially when the other 80-90% isn’t close to my favorite stuff from him.

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Old 05-22-24 | 03:34 PM
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Re: Movies that get a bad rap?

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For me it was just that it followed Planet Terror, which I really liked at the time. I haven't tried Death Proof again since the theater.
I like Death Proof but honestly thought I should have enjoyed Planet Terror more than I did. On paper it looks right up my alley, but for some reason it just doesn't do much for me.
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Originally Posted by Draven
I love Iron Man 2. It’s got a real madcap energy. Love the suitcase suit, the palladium discovery/creation scenes, Mickey Rourke’s bird, the hearing scene, Sam Rockwell, War Machine and the introduction of Black Widow. I love IM3 too but I’ve never thought IM2 was a lesser film.
Originally Posted by tanman
Iron Man 2 is not nearly as bad as everyone says it is. I am glad though that over the years it seems like Iron Man 3 has garnered a worse rap than 2. When it first came out it seemed like the consensus was that IM3 > IM2. But now it seems to be reversed.
Totally forgot about Iron Man 2, but I dig it as well. It's not as good as 3, in my opinion, but it feels like a video game in a good way (compared to Aquaman, which feels like that in a bad way).
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Old 05-26-24 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Draven
I am currently watching The Bourne Legacy. I fucking love this movie. It's one of my favorites to just put on in the background.

Renner and Weisz are great, it's got some fantastic scenes like the lab attack and the chase through the city. Running alongside Ultimatum and tying into it is a cool idea. It's just a fun movie.
I like all the Bourne movies, but Legacy is my most-watched of the bunch. Great action thriller comfort-food.
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Old 05-26-24 | 10:57 PM
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Re: Movies that get a bad rap?

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Guess I'm going to be rewatching this tonight.

Will all the movies available to consume you would waste it on a Dark Phoenx rewatch?

I remember somebody said that about Speed Racer and that movie is still shit.
Old 05-26-24 | 11:20 PM
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Re: Movies that get a bad rap?

I recall Vantage Point getting kind of a bad rap, but I think it’s a fun — if very shallow — thriller with a sprinkle of Rashomon for good measure.
Old 05-26-24 | 11:42 PM
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Re: Movies that get a bad rap?

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Will all the movies available to consume you would waste it on a Dark Phoenx rewatch?

I remember somebody said that about Speed Racer and that movie is still shit.
You might have missed the part where I said I liked it.
Old 06-24-24 | 07:27 PM
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Re: Movies that get a bad rap?

After seeing it again, yes, the writing stunk, but I like the action in the extended cut of Daredevil. I think it’s pretty decent pic that gets picked on.
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After seeing it again, yes, the writing stunk, but I like the action in the extended cut of Daredevil. I think it’s pretty decent pic that gets picked on.
The extended cut isn't bad at all and now looks almost like high art compared to some of the superhero movies we've gotten the past decade.

I'd say Affleck didn't really look the part of a lithe street gymnast who could do acrobatic flips which is a big issue. There's a scene where they try to show off Daredevil's gymnastic abilities and even with special effects doesn't quite look natural with Affleck doing them.

Superheroes arise from a visual medium, which Hollywood repeatedly doesn't get. 80% of a superhero's popularity is thanks to the character design and costume. Affleck was better cast as an older and heavier Batman.
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People bash the ending and Spielberg taking it over from Kubrick but it was still a entertaining film.



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Old 06-24-24 | 11:04 PM
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Of these I really like AI and Death Proof.

For me it's Land of the Lost with Will Ferrell. It's so stupid in a way that rarely gets made. I loves it.

...also Fired Up.
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People bash the ending and Spielberg taking it over from Kubrick but it was still a entertaining film.


Yep. It’s a good movie. The character designs for the advanced Mecha at the end was a big problem, considered half the viewers thought they were aliens at the end.
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Old 06-24-24 | 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluelitespecial

The Ghost and the Darkness- it was kind of hated by critics and had a troubled production but I think it's one of Val Kilmer's better movies of the 90s.
I love that movie. Great cast, looks good, good tension, and a gorgeous score.


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Predator 2. Siskel and Ebert gave two thumbs down but he and my brother watch on the theater and we both enjoyed it.
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Yep. It’s a good movie. The character designs for the advanced Mecha at the end was a big problem, considered half the viewers thought they were aliens at the end.
I'm pretty sure I thought they were aliens back in 2001. I saw it twice in theatres, astounded by the movie, but it is one of those that I found so emotionally painful it would take unique circumstances for me to revisit it a third time.
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I will forever defend Bicentennial Man. I've probably defended it on this forum. It's probably more forgotten than hated but most people know it as that Robin Williams robot movie. In a bad way. But I love it. I absolutely love movies that take place over a very long period of time. Seeing people grow up, old and pass on generation after generation. I also really love the scene where he projects the father and daughter dancing at her wedding and her father get's too emotional to watch any more. It's an absolutely beautiful scene driven home with James Horner's incredible score.

A really terrible quality video of the scene:

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Originally Posted by Crocker Jarmen
I'm pretty sure I thought they were aliens back in 2001. I saw it twice in theatres, astounded by the movie, but it is one of those that I found so emotionally painful it would take unique circumstances for me to revisit it a third time.
My main problem with the movie were the characters. The teddy had more character debth than all the others combined.


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