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Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom (2023, D: Wan) -- The Spoiler Reviews Thread -- RIP DCEU 2013-2023
12-21-23 | 12:48 PM
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Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom (2023, D: Wan) -- The Spoiler Reviews Thread -- RIP DCEU 2013-2023
Director James Wan and Aquaman himself, Jason Momoa—along with Patrick Wilson, Amber Heard, Yahya Abdul-Mateen II and Nicole Kidman—return in the sequel to the highest-grossing DC film of all time: “Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom.”
Having failed to defeat Aquaman the first time, Black Manta, still driven by the need to avenge his father’s death, will stop at nothing to take Aquaman down once and for all. This time Black Manta is more formidable than ever before, wielding the power of the mythic Black Trident, which unleashes an ancient and malevolent force. To defeat him, Aquaman will turn to his imprisoned brother Orm, the former King of Atlantis, to forge an unlikely alliance. Together, they must set aside their differences in order to protect their kingdom and save Aquaman’s family, and the world, from irreversible destruction.
All returning to the roles they originated, Jason Momoa plays Arthur Curry/Aquaman, now balancing his duties as both the King of Atlantis and a new father; Patrick Wilson is Orm, Aquaman’s half-brother and his nemesis, who must now step into a new role as his brother’s reluctant ally; Amber Heard is Mera, Atlantis’ Queen and mother of the heir to the throne; Yahya Abdul-Mateen II is Black Manta, committed more than ever to avenge his father’s death by destroying Aquaman, his family and Atlantis; and Nicole Kidman as Atlanna, a fierce leader and mother with the heart of a warrior. Also reprising their roles are Dolph Lundgren as King Nereus and Randall Park as Dr. Stephen Shin.
Directed by Wan, “Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom” is produced by Peter Safran, Wan and Rob Cowan. The executive producers are Galen Vaisman and Walter Hamada.
The screenplay is by David Leslie Johnson-McGoldrick, from a story by James Wan & David Leslie Johnson-McGoldrick and Jason Momoa & Thomas Pa’a Sibbett, based on characters from DC, Aquaman created by Paul Norris and Mort Weisinger.
Having failed to defeat Aquaman the first time, Black Manta, still driven by the need to avenge his father’s death, will stop at nothing to take Aquaman down once and for all. This time Black Manta is more formidable than ever before, wielding the power of the mythic Black Trident, which unleashes an ancient and malevolent force. To defeat him, Aquaman will turn to his imprisoned brother Orm, the former King of Atlantis, to forge an unlikely alliance. Together, they must set aside their differences in order to protect their kingdom and save Aquaman’s family, and the world, from irreversible destruction.
All returning to the roles they originated, Jason Momoa plays Arthur Curry/Aquaman, now balancing his duties as both the King of Atlantis and a new father; Patrick Wilson is Orm, Aquaman’s half-brother and his nemesis, who must now step into a new role as his brother’s reluctant ally; Amber Heard is Mera, Atlantis’ Queen and mother of the heir to the throne; Yahya Abdul-Mateen II is Black Manta, committed more than ever to avenge his father’s death by destroying Aquaman, his family and Atlantis; and Nicole Kidman as Atlanna, a fierce leader and mother with the heart of a warrior. Also reprising their roles are Dolph Lundgren as King Nereus and Randall Park as Dr. Stephen Shin.
Directed by Wan, “Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom” is produced by Peter Safran, Wan and Rob Cowan. The executive producers are Galen Vaisman and Walter Hamada.
The screenplay is by David Leslie Johnson-McGoldrick, from a story by James Wan & David Leslie Johnson-McGoldrick and Jason Momoa & Thomas Pa’a Sibbett, based on characters from DC, Aquaman created by Paul Norris and Mort Weisinger.
Running Time: 124 minutes
Rotten Tomatoes Score: 37% as of 12/21/23
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/aqu...e_lost_kingdom
There is reportedly 1 mid-credits scene
I plan to see this tonight in IMAX, but my expectations are pretty low.
This is it for the DCEU. Next big movie will be in 2025
Probably out of the 16 movies released over it's 11 years, I probably truly liked maybe 6 or 7.
12-21-23 | 05:31 PM
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I decided to postpone seeing this until tomorrow. Going to do a double feature with Anyone but You.
It's going to rain tonight in my area with temperatures in the 50s. Not exactly movie night weather.
It's going to rain tonight in my area with temperatures in the 50s. Not exactly movie night weather.
12-21-23 | 08:49 PM
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Re: Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom (2023, D: Wan) -- The Spoiler Reviews Thread -- RIP DCEU 2013-2023
Well, that's just rude. 
12-21-23 | 08:52 PM
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I made it about 20 minutes into the first one before I shut it off. And I like Jason/Khal Drogo. It just seemed like a terrible movie.
12-22-23 | 01:38 AM
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A sad end to the DCEU. That said Momoa and Wilson are a great duo and really keep an overly long, drawn out plot moving. Worse CGI than The Flash, solid villain, and the tap dancing to try and eliminate as much of Amber Heard as possible are the films most
notable takeaways.
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12-22-23 | 08:02 AM
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12-22-23 | 08:36 AM
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good fucking riddance. what a generally forgettable decade for them.
now it's the MCU's time to burn.
now it's the MCU's time to burn.
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12-22-23 | 12:27 PM
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Cheers to that. And like JackoOnHisBacko, I couldn't get through 20 minutes of the first "Aquaman". Abysmal. I don't know where Jason Momoa goes from here. Unless they continue making those awful "Fast and Furious" movies with him returning. He's a terrible actor but was likeable here and there when he was on "SNL".
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12-23-23 | 12:15 AM
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Just got back. I know my thoughts are going to be in the minority, but I kind of had a good time and I didn't think it sucked.
I will say if you did not like or hated the 1st movie, this is definitely not for you. Watch something else.
Yeah it's 90% CGI. Some of the underwater creatures didn't look very good. They looked like exaggerated cartoons. The dialogue was a little corny and Black Manta ended up being a lame villain overall. He died at the end because of his hatred for Arthur that he wouldn't let him save him from falling to his death. The bigger evil was a actually dark force from Atlantis' past.
The highlight for me was the interactions between Momoa and Patrick Wilson. Their banter was great.
when Arthur called Oram "Loki" And then told him to eat a cockroach because it's the shrimp of the land. The mid-credits scene ties into it. It's a goofy scene and isn't mandatory to stay for. My theater started chuckling at it. I got some laughs and I saw Momoa has a writer credit, so I think he probably did interject a lot of himself in Arthur this time around.
I'm glad they deleted Bruce Wayne from this. It would have made no sense for him to be in here. I know some of you need your "Inter-connected, serialized universes", but this has no connection at all to the bigger DCEU. It's a standalone direct follow up to the 1st movie. No references to anything from the DCEU.
I gave it 3 stars and a B- I know some of you who choose to see this probably won't like it, but YMMV.
I will say if you did not like or hated the 1st movie, this is definitely not for you. Watch something else.
Yeah it's 90% CGI. Some of the underwater creatures didn't look very good. They looked like exaggerated cartoons. The dialogue was a little corny and Black Manta ended up being a lame villain overall. He died at the end because of his hatred for Arthur that he wouldn't let him save him from falling to his death. The bigger evil was a actually dark force from Atlantis' past.
The highlight for me was the interactions between Momoa and Patrick Wilson. Their banter was great.
when Arthur called Oram "Loki" And then told him to eat a cockroach because it's the shrimp of the land. The mid-credits scene ties into it. It's a goofy scene and isn't mandatory to stay for. My theater started chuckling at it. I got some laughs and I saw Momoa has a writer credit, so I think he probably did interject a lot of himself in Arthur this time around. I'm glad they deleted Bruce Wayne from this. It would have made no sense for him to be in here. I know some of you need your "Inter-connected, serialized universes", but this has no connection at all to the bigger DCEU. It's a standalone direct follow up to the 1st movie. No references to anything from the DCEU.
I gave it 3 stars and a B- I know some of you who choose to see this probably won't like it, but YMMV.
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12-23-23 | 03:04 AM
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This was my Aquaman showing tonight at 7pm. Relatively decent crowd for a Friday.
12-24-23 | 05:43 AM
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I enjoyed it but not nearly as much as the first Aquaman. Arthur/Orm was the highlight for me. Glad to see Amber Heard was in it more than the social media clickbait headlines have made out for the last year or more.
12-24-23 | 08:12 PM
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Re: Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom (2023, D: Wan) -- The Spoiler Reviews Thread -- RIP DCEU 2013-2023
Should've posted this here instead of the DCEU thread.
Just watched Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom. It's good fun, in the style of the first movie. If that one was not to your liking, this one will not win you over. I was surprised Amber Heard, although clearly sidelined, got more to do than I expected. Although I noticed Nicole Kidman delivered one line to Momoa that should have been delivered by Heard, despite Amber Heard being in the scene.
As for Keaton/Affleck, their scene (either version) reportedly entailed Batman telling Arthur of strange occurrences reported deep in the ocean. That is information that could be (and was) delivered by the other characters in the film. So the scene is no big loss.
Just watched Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom. It's good fun, in the style of the first movie. If that one was not to your liking, this one will not win you over. I was surprised Amber Heard, although clearly sidelined, got more to do than I expected. Although I noticed Nicole Kidman delivered one line to Momoa that should have been delivered by Heard, despite Amber Heard being in the scene.
As for Keaton/Affleck, their scene (either version) reportedly entailed Batman telling Arthur of strange occurrences reported deep in the ocean. That is information that could be (and was) delivered by the other characters in the film. So the scene is no big loss.
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12-25-23 | 10:23 AM
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I enjoyed the first movie enough when I saw it but truth be told I don’t remember a whole lot about it. I more remember my theater experience because these two people behind me wouldn’t be quiet and I eventually got up and moved seats.
I’ll watch this movie eventually but am not going to bother with seeing it in the theater. Sounds like the DCEU ends on a pretty low note. Not terribly surprising but also a bit of a shame. What a waste of ten years trying to make something work that’s been doomed from early on.
I’ll watch this movie eventually but am not going to bother with seeing it in the theater. Sounds like the DCEU ends on a pretty low note. Not terribly surprising but also a bit of a shame. What a waste of ten years trying to make something work that’s been doomed from early on.
12-25-23 | 01:47 PM
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12-25-23 | 02:04 PM
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I'm sorry... so you are saying nothing since Endgame has been better than Thor: The Dark World or The Incredible Hulk?
GotG Vol.3 and The Marvels were fantastic. Black Widow, Wakanda Forever even Shang-Chi were really good in my book. All of these were much better than Thor:TDW/Hulk. Heck even Thor: Love and Thunder was an improvement over Thor: The Dark World.
GotG Vol.3 and The Marvels were fantastic. Black Widow, Wakanda Forever even Shang-Chi were really good in my book. All of these were much better than Thor:TDW/Hulk. Heck even Thor: Love and Thunder was an improvement over Thor: The Dark World.
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12-25-23 | 02:56 PM
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No it wasn't. Thor: Love and Thunder may well be the absolute worst MCU flick I've seen (though I never watched the MCU adjacent Morbius).
And, in your other comment you meant The Incredible Hulk (rather than Ang Lee's Hulk), right? That movie is actually quite enjoyable. It just didn't do well because people were leery due to Hulk, and it only being the second MCU flick didn't afford it much good will (even with the positive reception Iron Man received).
And, in your other comment you meant The Incredible Hulk (rather than Ang Lee's Hulk), right? That movie is actually quite enjoyable. It just didn't do well because people were leery due to Hulk, and it only being the second MCU flick didn't afford it much good will (even with the positive reception Iron Man received).
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12-25-23 | 05:49 PM
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Well I don’t agree with either of those assertions. Grrrr.
12-25-23 | 09:39 PM
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12-26-23 | 09:44 AM
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Re: Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom (2023, D: Wan) -- The Spoiler Reviews Thread -- RIP DCEU 2013-2023
Morbius bad. Ed Norton's Hulk bad. Thor Love and Thunder good.
12-26-23 | 10:55 AM
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Bombed even worse than The Marvels. 27.7M 3 day / 40M 4 day totals
12-26-23 | 02:40 PM
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Makes sense. Like Black Widow, they're releasing a movie after the character (universe, in this case) is already dead. No one cares what happens. I'll watch it when it hits Max.
12-26-23 | 02:44 PM
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I said in my post, this is basically a stand alone follow up to the 1st movie from 2018. There is no "Inter-connectedness" (is that even a real word?) But, I understand some hesitancy since the reviews haven't been glowing and money is tight for many these days. I still say if you were a fan of the 1st movie, this is a decent follow up. Even the 1st movie had almost no connection to the DCEU other than 1 throwaway line.
12-26-23 | 04:34 PM
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Re: Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom (2023, D: Wan) -- The Spoiler Reviews Thread -- RIP DCEU 2013-2023
I said in my post, this is basically a stand alone follow up to the 1st movie from 2018. There is no "Inter-connectedness" (is that even a real word?) But, I understand some hesitancy since the reviews haven't been glowing and money is tight for many these days. I still say if you were a fan of the 1st movie, this is a decent follow up. Even the 1st movie had almost no connection to the DCEU other than 1 throwaway line.
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12-26-23 | 07:38 PM
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