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Giantrobo 07-17-23 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dex14 (Post 14297619)
I've seen the show come up in conversation a lot regarding this. Orange is a bit of a different situation since it was licensed to Netflix from Lionsgate.

Hmmm, isn't Netflix and their practices the "Ground Zero" for so much of what the Writers and Actors are screwed on and are now fighting for? It seems Netflix's name comes up a lot when discussions of how everyone ended up where were are today with strikes.

Decker 07-17-23 04:50 PM

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Amazing 10/10. No notes.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/dvdtalk...8c2d3b198a.png

The Cow 07-17-23 04:55 PM

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^ Might make more sense if I knew who that was (image search didn't help). Is it David Duchovny? :shrug:

IBJoel 07-17-23 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by The Cow (Post 14297782)
^ Might make more sense if I knew who that was (image search didn't help). Is it David Duchovny? :shrug:

yes

DJariya 07-17-23 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by The Cow (Post 14297782)
^ Might make more sense if I knew who that was (image search didn't help). Is it David Duchovny? :shrug:

yes that’s him and he’s picketing in front of 20th Century studios

stvn1974 07-17-23 05:48 PM

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One of the reasons Duchovny left the X-Files was because FOX put the show on FX when it went into syndication so they wouldn't have to pay royalties since they owned the network. He even sued, I think they reached an agreement.

Josh-da-man 07-17-23 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Giantrobo (Post 14297716)
Hmmm, isn't Netflix and their practices the "Ground Zero" for so much of what the Writers and Actors are screwed on and are now fighting for? It seems Netflix's name comes up a lot when discussions of how everyone ended up where were are today with strikes.

Netflix is in sort of a unique position where they were the original streaming network, and aren't under another media umbrella like Disney+, Paramount+, and Peacock. I think they have their own royalty scheme or whatever, too, and that's one of the big bones of contention.

And "Netflix" has also become sort of synonymous with streaming content, even if you aren't streaming it from Netflix itself. IE, you can "Netflix and chill" while you're watching stuff of Disney+ or Amazon Prime.


TomOpus 07-18-23 07:59 AM

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Disney characters replace Haunted Mansion stars on red carpet at first major premiere since actors' strike


With none of the film's stars present to hit the red carpet and conduct interviews, Disney called upon some familiar (if unexpected) faces to take their place and celebrate: Disneyland characters.

Mickey and Minnie Mouse, Maleficent, the Evil Queen and Cruella De Vil all walked the carpet and greeted the many fans in attendance.

fujishig 07-18-23 09:49 AM

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Apparently here's the list of demands and the studios' counter (REJECTED!)


Josh-da-man 07-18-23 11:09 AM

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7. Tentatively agreed that performers shall not be requested to audition in the nude or required to do a stunt in an audition.
My dream of becoming a Hollywood producer, shattered. :(

DJariya 07-18-23 12:03 PM

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DB Woodside, who was on 24 and Lucifer, sheds a little light on how expensive it can be for an actor to work on a show. If you have to move to a new city to work, you only get a 1-time relocation fee. So if the actor lives in LA and gets a regular job in Canada, they have to pay rents in 2 cities simultaneously. And if they have a car in LA and need one in Canada, they'll have to do the same thing.



I can see how this would be really hard for someone who gets booked as recurring on a show. Lets say they get booked on 10 of 16 episodes, then they have to find a place to sleep and when they don't work for 2-3 weeks, they'll have to fly home and wait until it's their turn to work. That will get really expensive.

rw2516 07-18-23 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 14298058)
DB Woodside, who was on 24 and Lucifer, sheds a little light on how expensive it can be for an actor to work on a show. If you have to move to a new city to work, you only get a 1-time relocation fee. So if the actor lives in LA and gets a regular job in Canada, they have to pay rents in 2 cities simultaneously. And if they have a car in LA and need one in Canada, they'll have to do the same thing.

https://twitter.com/dbwofficial/stat...081629697?s=20


I can see how this would be really hard for someone who gets booked as recurring on a show. Lets say they get booked on 10 of 16 episodes, then they have to find a place to sleep and when they don't work for 2-3 weeks, they'll have to fly home and wait until it's their turn to work. That will get really expensive.

I read somewhere once that an actor who doesn't appear in every episode gets paid for every episode between the first and last they appeared in. If they're in episode 2 and 7, they get paid the same as if they were in all six 2-7.
Same with movies. They shoot all an actor's scenes together for whole movie. If an actor gets called back to shoot something, they get paid for everyday of shooting that occurred since their last day of shooting.

Giantrobo 07-18-23 02:55 PM

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Wow, the Healthcare issues for actors and writers is BULLSHIT. Just wow.... If you don't "earn" enough you can't get Healthcare. That sentence should never be heard in America.



DJariya 07-18-23 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by rw2516 (Post 14298138)
I read somewhere once that an actor who doesn't appear in every episode gets paid for every episode between the first and last they appeared in. If they're in episode 2 and 7, they get paid the same as if they were in all six 2-7.
Same with movies. They shoot all an actor's scenes together for whole movie. If an actor gets called back to shoot something, they get paid for everyday of shooting that occurred since their last day of shooting.

Most working actors who get booked on a TV show as a recurring guest star get paid a “day rate” based on one days work. They are basically a freelance daily hire.

What you’re talking about is a series regular who may not appear in every episode, but they will get their contracted salary.

DJariya 07-18-23 03:03 PM

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https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cu2WK...RlODBiNWFlZA==


Constance Marie provides a great explanation on how scanning actors is going to kill the talent pipeline for up and comers. She’s a longtime working actor and is most famous from George Lopez’s show and Selena.

DJariya 07-18-23 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Giantrobo (Post 14298142)
Wow, the Healthcare issues for actors and writers is BULLSHIT. Just wow.... If you don't "earn" enough you can't get Healthcare. That sentence should never be heard in America.


Yes the fact that most working actors can’t reach the $26K threshold is unbelievable.

I follow a working SAG actor on YouTube who does a lot of voice over work, commercials and background work. But she doesn’t have health insurance because it’s not enough. And the residuals are almost nonexistent. She started her own online voice over coaching company that helps her pay the bills.

Spiderbite 07-18-23 03:29 PM

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Honestly, reading many of the complaints and the reason why a lot of these items haven't been updated (i.e., who is pocketing the money) is a straight up mirror of our current society no matter what your job is.

It appears the vast majority of the nation should strike, union or not, against corporate America.

Giantrobo 07-18-23 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Spiderbite (Post 14298162)
Honestly, reading many of the complaints and the reason why a lot of these items haven't been updated (i.e., who is pocketing the money) is a straight up mirror of our current society no matter what your job is.

It appears the vast majority of the nation should strike, union or not, against corporate America.


Right? It's like this everywhere....The folks they need THE MOST, like the BACKBONES of their businesses who they can't do anything without... are the ones they FUCK OVER the Most and the Hardest.

Make it make sense! Oh yeah... greed, "Share Holder Dick Riding", and simply not caring.

fujishig 07-18-23 03:57 PM

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I think it's also "surely MY job can't be replaced so easily..."

jjcool 07-18-23 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 14298058)
DB Woodside, who was on 24 and Lucifer, sheds a little light on how expensive it can be for an actor to work on a show. If you have to move to a new city to work, you only get a 1-time relocation fee. So if the actor lives in LA and gets a regular job in Canada, they have to pay rents in 2 cities simultaneously. And if they have a car in LA and need one in Canada, they'll have to do the same thing.

https://twitter.com/dbwofficial/stat...081629697?s=20


I can see how this would be really hard for someone who gets booked as recurring on a show. Lets say they get booked on 10 of 16 episodes, then they have to find a place to sleep and when they don't work for 2-3 weeks, they'll have to fly home and wait until it's their turn to work. That will get really expensive.

He's specifically speaking of series regulars. How much do series regulars typically make?

DJariya 07-18-23 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jjcool (Post 14298186)
He's specifically speaking of series regulars. How much do series regulars typically make?

No one knows. Depends on what they negotiated.

I was talking about how it might also hurt someone who has a multi episode arc. Erin Cummings got booked on a multi episode arc on the final season of Nancy Drew. She had to fly back and forth between LA and Vancouver on her own dime over multiple months and probably had to book a hotel as well. Take all those costs out of her checks. DB was saying that even series regular gigs you’re not making lots of money. The expenses are enormous and without residuals later on it’s brutal.

morriscroy 07-18-23 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Giantrobo (Post 14298177)
Make it make sense! Oh yeah... greed, "Share Holder Dick Riding", and simply not caring.

There is no easy way around this, without changing the political system entirely. Unfortunately the last time there were such a radical change of system to a "worker's paradise", it ended up in complete failure.

rw2516 07-18-23 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jjcool (Post 14298186)
He's specifically speaking of series regulars. How much do series regulars typically make?

Stars make the big bucks. Anna Faris got $350K per episode. The Winchesters, Sam and Dean got $125-175K per episodes. Supporting regulars seem to average around $70K per episode (from what I can find out). The one shot guest appearance is about $15-20K.
Pedro Pascal got $600K per episode for Last of Us. There's a stink over it because the girl, can't think of her name, only got $70K per episode.

Erin Cummings may have to pay for her plane tickets and hotel but she's a multi-millionaire and after personal expenses nets more per episode than most people make in a year.

I thought Matt Jones, the guy who played the deadbeat, pothead, ex husband of Anna Faris on Mom would be a good example. Not in every episode, shows up occasionaly, etc. Nope. His net worth is in the millions.



Josh-da-man 07-18-23 05:45 PM

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Matt Jones is probably better known as Badger on Breaking Bad than a guy on Mom. :lol: He's also a regular on Bob Hearts Abishola, so he's probably doing well on that front.

Actor remuneration can vary a lot, even within the same show. Established actors will almost always make more than the rest of the cast, even if they're not the lead. And if the series run for a long time, the actors can renegotiate higher salaries.

dex14 07-18-23 05:45 PM

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SAG-AFTRA has released a list of an initial batch of independent film projects that have signed the guild’s interim agreement, which will allow those movies to continue filming or imminently start filming even as the actors strike against the studios carries on.

Among the titles to obtain waivers is “Mother Mary,” which is an A24 and Topic Studios project from David Lowery starring Anne Hathaway and Michaela Coel, and “The Rivals of Amziah King,” a crime thriller that stars Matthew McConaughey.

Some others of note: “Flight Risk” directed by Mel Gibson and starring Mark Wahlberg, “Dust Bunny” with Mads Mikkelsen and Sigourney Weaver, the musical biopic “The Yellow Tie” with John Malkovich, and “Anniversary” with Diane Lane and Phoebe Dynevor. Others that were previously reported include the Rebel Wilson comedy “Bride Hard” and the fourth season of “The Chosen,” the Biblical project from Angel Studios.

“The Strike Order extends to productions produced under the Codified Basic and Television Agreements as well as related contracts like the Low Budget Theatrical Agreement, Moderate Low Budget Project Agreement, Ultra Low Budget Project Agreement, and Special New Media Agreements. However, producers that otherwise fall within the scope of the strike order may apply for an interim agreement,” the guild wrote on its website. “Once such applications are vetted and, if approved by SAG-AFTRA, the union offers an Interim Agreement, and the producer accepts it by returning a signed copy. Once that process is complete, performers may render services on that specific production without being in violation of the strike order.”

The full list can be found here.

Hundreds of film titles have already applied for a waiver from the guild, according to a comment yesterday from lead SAG-AFTRA negotiator Duncan Crabtree-Ireland, but the guild is looking for “truly independent” projects that don’t have ties to the AMPTP.

It remains to be seen whether actors who are on strike will continue working on these projects while their peers are on strike, even with waivers in hand.

While there are just 39 titles on the list at the moment, the list will be updated daily, and the guild is prioritizing titles that have already been shooting, are about to shoot, and have already been cast.

As IndieWire reported yesterday, some confirmation letters had already gone out to select projects informing them that they’d be approved to continue filming, even though the interim agreement itself had not been finalized.

Under the terms of the interim agreement, indie producers are agreeing to offer cast an 11 percent raise to the minimum salary as negotiated in the previous 2020 deal. It also comes with the expectation that the producers will agree to whatever the new terms of the contract are whenever the strike between the studios and SAG-AFTRA ends.
https://www.indiewire.com/news/break...rs-1234885802/

It would be cool to see a lot of big actors taking jobs in smaller productions that they wouldn't normally take.


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