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rocket1312 02-06-23 07:02 AM

Re: 2023 Academy Awards
 

Originally Posted by Draven (Post 14230715)
2022’s telecast had the second-worst viewership for the Oscars ever :shrug:

​​​​​And? Have you looked at tv ratings recently? It was the highest rated non-sporting event of the year.

Hate the Oscars all you want for being boring, pretentious or whatever, but enough people still care enough to watch. The argument that they should be kept off tv is one of the dumbest things I've ever read on this forum.

Draven 02-06-23 08:39 AM

Re: 2023 Academy Awards
 

Originally Posted by rocket1312 (Post 14230745)
​​​​​And? Have you looked at tv ratings recently? It was the highest rated non-sporting event of the year.

Hate the Oscars all you want for being boring, pretentious or whatever, but enough people still care enough to watch. The argument that they should be kept off tv is one of the dumbest things I've ever read on this forum.

We had a whole back and forth about this last year too. My ultimate point is that I don't think the average TV viewer cares about the Academy Awards and the declining viewership bears that out, even if all TV ratings are in decline. So when we're talking about the telecast (not the Awards themselves), getting rid of it doesn't really seem to affect the TV landscape all that much. If ABC can put something else in that long time slot that pulls a decent number without costing them millions of dollars, that might be a good idea. Seriously, what do we lose by not being able to watch Jimmy Kimmel host a 3+ hour "congratulations us!" ceremony?

They can still have the event and the winners can still be "Academy Award winners" afterward. Who cares if you couldn't watch it on TV? I'm sure the average person doesn't remember who won the previous year anyway.

Though as I've said they might actually pull a better number this year, just because they nominated movies for BP that people actually saw.


Runaway 02-06-23 09:07 AM

Re: 2023 Academy Awards
 

Originally Posted by Throwing Copper (Post 14230732)
The Oscars are still a big deal. The 16 million ratings are really good. Not everything is going to do NFL NUMBERS.

The only reason so many people watched it for decades is there were only 3 channels for a long time and now there are infinite entertainment options.

Oscars aren’t going anywhere. And whomever is in charge that allows a broadcast that is mostly movie clips, montages and people standing there to cost $40 million should be fired.

40 million seems crazy and it's not Hamiliton, but it's still an expensive venue, with an orchestra, a live telecast and a live show, which has to be rehearsed. It's not just a 4 hour taping of Jimmy Kimmel.

rocket1312 02-06-23 09:09 AM

Re: 2023 Academy Awards
 
What would even be the upside of taking the show off tv? ABC saves some money?

GoldenJCJ 02-06-23 09:22 AM

Re: 2023 Academy Awards
 

Originally Posted by rocket1312 (Post 14230771)
What would even be the upside of taking the show off tv? ABC saves some money?

Some dudes on the internet would feel vindicated.

TomOpus 02-06-23 12:51 PM

Re: 2023 Academy Awards
 
While it might cost $40 million, how much do they pull in with ad revenue?

Draven 02-06-23 12:52 PM

Re: 2023 Academy Awards
 

Originally Posted by rocket1312 (Post 14230771)
What would even be the upside of taking the show off tv? ABC saves some money?

Isn't a reason a lot of things are taken off TV?

Decker 02-06-23 01:14 PM

Re: 2023 Academy Awards
 

Originally Posted by Draven (Post 14230894)
Isn't a reason a lot of things are taken off TV?

You know what doesn't get taken off TV? The highest rated entertainment special of the year.

Draven 02-06-23 01:23 PM

Re: 2023 Academy Awards
 

Originally Posted by Decker (Post 14230907)
You know what doesn't get taken off TV? The highest rated entertainment special of the year.

I mean, I guess we'll see. If viewership continues to decline, you don't think there's a point where it isn't worth it?

And besides, wasn't that the whole thing last year - ABC mandating changes otherwise they were going to dump it?

DJariya 02-06-23 02:35 PM

Re: 2023 Academy Awards
 
I realize there's a segment of people who don't like Award shows and think they're a waste of time. But, what good is it to complain about it when you have the power to watch something else than dwell that it still exists?

Draven 02-06-23 03:35 PM

Re: 2023 Academy Awards
 

Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 14230987)
I realize there's a segment of people who don't like Award shows and think they're a waste of time. But, what good is it to complain about it when you have the power to watch something else than dwell that it still exists?

I dunno - couldn't that be said for any project, movie, album, etc. that comes out? I think the Oscars are a bloated and outdated concept that are in need of a total revamp.


Originally Posted by bluetoast (Post 14231030)
At the end of the day it's as if people think they have better market research ability than ABC and deciding that they should cancel the show because "most people" don't watch. I'm sure we'll all get jobs programming their shows real soon with this in depth analysis. :lol:

For me this is all based on what ABC said last year :shrug:

Decker 02-06-23 03:37 PM

Re: 2023 Academy Awards
 

Originally Posted by Draven (Post 14231032)

For me this is all based on what ABC said last year :shrug:

What did they say last year? I can't find the reference, let alone a threat to get out of broadcasting the show.

rocket1312 02-06-23 03:56 PM

Re: 2023 Academy Awards
 
ABC flexed their muscles last year to get the Oscars to make changes to the show after the ratings in 2021 were terrible. Apparently they have a clause in their contract that allows them to get out of the deal (which goes until 2028) and cancel the show if they want to.

I don't deny for a second that the rights fees (which were agreed to in a different tv landscape) are exorbitant and that the show as it exists now may not be fiscally responsible for the network. But there's no reason to think that the Academy wouldn't promptly take their 16 million viewers somewhere else to keep the show on the air, even if it meant reducing rights fees and scaling back the cost of the show.

JeffTheAlpaca 02-06-23 08:03 PM

Re: 2023 Academy Awards
 
I hope NBC or another network gets it in the future since it seems like ABC has a lifetime contract with the Oscars.

I assume but not sure how many people they lost that are conservative and hate Hollywood and everything it stands for but maybe watched the show in the past.

jjcool 02-07-23 12:01 PM

Re: 2023 Academy Awards
 
It's apathy. Many people don't care to tune in to an awards show for movies they haven't seen, or even heard of. The Slap and the La La Land gaffe being the stuff that the majority of people are talking about the next day (week, month, year, etc) speaks volumes.

stvn1974 02-08-23 02:08 PM

Re: 2023 Academy Awards
 

Originally Posted by jjcool (Post 14231399)
It's apathy. Many people don't care to tune in to an awards show for movies they haven't seen, or even heard of. The Slap and the La La Land gaffe being the stuff that the majority of people are talking about the next day (week, month, year, etc) speaks volumes.

And many people only found out about the slap and the best picture screw up form their news feeds or Twitter.

jjcool 02-09-23 12:47 PM

Re: 2023 Academy Awards
 

Originally Posted by stvn1974 (Post 14231915)
And many people only found out about the slap and the best picture screw up form their news feeds or Twitter.

Because so few were watching live.

JeffTheAlpaca 02-10-23 09:45 PM

Re: 2023 Academy Awards
 
What happened to the BAFA Awards?


Usually it would air on BBC American every year but they have a Rocky marathon on Feb 19.

rocket1312 02-11-23 07:47 AM

Re: 2023 Academy Awards
 

Originally Posted by JeffTheAlpaca (Post 14233176)
What happened to the BAFA Awards?


Usually it would air on BBC American every year but they have a Rocky marathon on Feb 19.

It's on Britbox this year

JeffTheAlpaca 02-11-23 08:49 PM

Re: 2023 Academy Awards
 
That sucks :(

JeffTheAlpaca 03-03-23 04:47 AM

Re: The 94th Academy Awards --> 2022 Oscar Awards Show Discussion
 
My Year of Dicks or 26 minutes of dicks is now available to stream on Hulu.

dex14 03-08-23 04:31 PM

Re: 2023 Academy Awards
 

After weeks of speculation, Oscarcast director Glenn Weiss said today that Lady Gaga will not perform her Best Song nominee “Hold My Hand” from Top Gun: Maverick at Sunday’s 95th annual Academy Awards.

The singer has told producers she is planning on coming to the ceremony as a nominee, but she won’t have time to prepare a musical number because she’s shooting the Warner Bros’ DC sequel Joker: Folie à Deux with Joaquin Phoenix.
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The other four tunes up for the Best Original Song Oscar — “Applause” (from Tell It like a Woman), “Lift Me Up” (Black Panther: Wakanda Forever), “Naatu Naatu” (RRR) and “This Is a Life” (Everything Everywhere All at Once) — will be performed during the show.

In an interview this week with Deadline’s Awards Columnist Pete Hammond, Oscarcast producer Ricky Kirshner said of Gaga possibly performing on the show: “We’ve announced some of the performances, and there are still more announcements to come. So I will say that the ones we’ve announced, very creatively, have taken to make their song very performance based and very visual. Obviously, as you can imagine, Everything Everywhere All at Once. Very visual. David Byrne [who co-wrote and performed that film’s song “This Is a Life”] had a lot to say about what it’ll look like, so that’ll be cool. So we’re excited about all the performances that we have.

GoldenJCJ 03-08-23 05:00 PM

Re: 2023 Academy Awards
 
That’s too bad. I guess in the scheme of things, it doesn’t really matter if Lady Gaga performs or not but it’s my choice for best song so I was hoping to hear her perform it.

DJariya 03-08-23 05:08 PM

Re: 2023 Academy Awards
 
It’s a great song, but if she doesn’t feel comfortable performing it live this weekend while she’s working on Joker, then it’s probably for the best. You need rehearsal time and don’t want a sloppily put together production.

OldBoy 03-08-23 05:30 PM

Re: 2023 Academy Awards
 
It sucks as it’s an amazing song and she looks so good in the video. Would have loved hearing that song performed live by GaGa.


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