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Avatar 2: Will it break records, bomb, or just go “meh”?

Old 11-27-22, 09:45 PM
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Re: Avatar 2: Will it break records, bomb, or just go “meh”?

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Since Cameron has set the over at 2bn, I'll bet against him! I'll stick to my 1.4bn estimate. 600 dom, 800 overseas.

If I'm wrong, I won't care! Ahahaha
I didn’t realize we were setting a specific benchmark. That said, I looked at the major release schedule, and it looks like Avatar 2 has a pretty clear path in terms of competition. It looks like similar circumstances as Titanic, Avatar, Star Wars: TFA, and Spider Man No Way Home had being released at the same holiday period with little competition on their way to $2 billion-ish. So, yeah, $2 billion is probably not entirely unrealistic. I wouldn’t necessarily bet for it, but I certainly wouldn’t bet against it.
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Re: Avatar 2: Will it break records, bomb, or just go “meh”?

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I didn’t realize we were setting a specific benchmark. That said, I looked at the major release schedule, and it looks like Avatar 2 has a pretty clear path in terms of competition. It looks like similar circumstances as Titanic, Avatar, Star Wars: TFA, and Spider Man No Way Home had being released at the same holiday period with little competition on their way to $2 billion-ish. So, yeah, $2 billion is probably not entirely unrealistic. I wouldn’t necessarily bet for it, but I certainly wouldn’t bet against it.
I like to be super-specific with box-office predictions sometimes; it increases my chances of being wrong!
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Considering no one cares about 3D anymore and theater-going still isn't back to pre-pandemic levels, I have no idea how this movie about blue aliens is going to hit 2 billion. My son and I might see it in theaters when he's home for break but anecdotally, no one else in my orbit has any interest.

The only thing it has going for it is that there is very little playing at movie theaters these days.
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Disney has nothing in theatres until Ant-Man in February.
They literally have the top 2 movies right now
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Re: Avatar 2: Will it break records, bomb, or just go “meh”?

$3 Billion
Old 12-04-22, 11:53 AM
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Re: Avatar 2: Will it break records, bomb, or just go “meh”?

I still don't see why Cameron couldn't cut a few minutes here and there; 3 hours and 11 minutes seems a bit pretentious.
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I still don't see why Cameron couldn't cut a few minutes here and there; 3 hours and 11 minutes seems a bit pretentious.
Are you calling James "I'm the king of the world" Cameron pretentious?
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Re: Avatar 2: Will it break records, bomb, or just go “meh”?

If it's good, 3 hours isn't long enough.
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“No good movie is ever long enough, no bad movie is ever short enough.”

This might be the longest 3D movie of all time, which hopefully will be a good thing. If done right the audience will have a hard time adjusting back to reality after the end.
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Re: Avatar 2: Will it break records, bomb, or just go “meh”?

Please, if all the MCU movies were over 3 hours long you guys would be all over it.
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Please, if all the MCU movies were over 3 hours long you guys would be all over it.
They’re getting damn close to being that long anyway.
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Re: Avatar 2: Will it break records, bomb, or just go “meh”?

I would imagine 10 minutes of that runtime is the closing credits.
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I would imagine 10 minutes of that runtime is the closing credits.
I hope there's not a post credits scene. Or maybe they could do a trailer for part 3 like Back to the Future Part II did.
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Has anyone guessed the plot? It's looking like that company wasn't okay with being kicked off the planet.

I'd normally be here with cynicism and snark about logic (like how they apparently haven't mastered space-to-surface weaponry). But Cameron dissects and tries to fix that stuff ahead of time. And his writers on these are solid (the husband-wife duo is responsible for the new Planet of the Apes movies).

The final trailer felt exciting. I'm ready. Bringing my diaper. Ready to shit myself from the awesomeness.
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Re: Avatar 2: Will it break records, bomb, or just go “meh”?

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This might be the longest 3D movie of all time, which hopefully will be a good thing. If done right the audience will have a hard time adjusting back to reality after the end.
It will be weird to be able to see normally rather than just a little shittier than reality.

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Please, if all the MCU movies were over 3 hours long you guys would be all over it.
Well, those movies are good. And fans love them - not a lot of Avatar cosplay out there.
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Well, those movies are good. And fans love them - not a lot of Avatar cosplay out there.

Cosplay dictates success? Uh, ok.
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Cosplay dictates success? Uh, ok.
Enthusiasm and capturing the imagination of viewers? Yeah, I think it helps.
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Enthusiasm and capturing the imagination of viewers? Yeah, I think it helps.
What, like the first Avatar film didn't do that? It was the highest grossing film of all time for many years.
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I have no idea what the rest of the world thinks about Avatar, but I don't think audiences in the US give a damn about it.

I remember when the original came out that it was such a huge deal because it was the FX innovator and master story-teller Cameron presenting the ultimate 3-D experience, and people flocked to see it. But in the years since, the movie has not held people's interest as something to revisit. So I do not see any clamoring for the sequel. Meaning that, in my opinion, the concept is not presold. People did not love the first one enough to be excited all these years later for a second one.

Now, if it turns out the movie really is GREAT, will that draw people to the theaters? I'm not even certain that people are interested in going to theaters anymore enough, unless the product is both BIG and familiar, like Top Gun and MCU.
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Re: Avatar 2: Will it break records, bomb, or just go “meh”?

‘Avatar 2’ Stuns Press in Rave First Reactions: ‘Visual Masterpiece,‘ ‘Mind-Blowing,’ ’Never Doubt’ James Cameron


After 13 years of anticipation, James Cameron’s “Avatar: The Way of Water” has finally been unveiled for members of the press following the movie’s world premiere in London. The first reactions to the film are overwhelmingly positive, with many journalists blown away once again by Cameron’s boundless imagination and pristine visual effects.

“Happy to say ‘Avatar: The Way of Water’ is phenomenal,” wrote Fandango’s Erik Davis. “Bigger, better & more emotional than ‘Avatar,’ the film is visually breathtaking, visceral and incredibly engrossing. The story, the spectacle, the spirituality, the beauty – this is moviemaking & storytelling at its absolute finest.”



“Happy Sad Confused” host Josh Horowitz raved, “James Cameron once again shows filmmakers how it’s done. I’ve said it a thousand times. Never doubt him. ‘Avatar: The Way of Water’ is how you do epic blockbuster-ing. Emotional, visceral and as big as movies get.”



“I had faith James Cameron would raise the bar with the effects but these visuals are mind-blowing,” Collider’s Peri Nemiroff added. “One stunning frame after the next.”

“Avatar: The Way of Water” once again centers on Jake Sully (Sam Worthington) and Neytiri (Zoe Saldaña), now parents who are forced to protect their family from a new threat to Pandora. The cast also includes Sigourney Weaver, Stephen Lang and Kate Winslet.

Even before “The Way of Water” screened for press, it earned a rave first reaction from none other than Guillermo del Toro. The Oscar winner wrote on Twitter that the “Avatar” sequel is “a staggering achievement,” adding, “It’s a chock-full of majestic vistas and emotions at an epic, epic scale. A master at the peak of his power.”

While the film’s three-hour-and-10 minute runtime has been making headlines for weeks, it doesn’t appear anyone was too bothered by the length. Cameron himself has said he doesn’t care if viewers leave the theater to use the bathroom.

“I don’t want anybody whining about length when they sit and binge-watch [television] for eight hours,” Cameron told Empire magazine over the summer. “I can almost write this part of the review. ‘The agonizingly long three-hour movie…’ It’s like, give me a fucking break. I’ve watched my kids sit and do five one-hour episodes in a row. Here’s the big social paradigm shift that has to happen: it’s okay to get up and go pee.”

https://variety.com/2022/film/news/a...ce-1235451389/


Boom! The official review embargo lifts soon, too.
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I’m reading a few reviews saying that the story isn’t great or is weaker than the first film. Pretty low bar as the story of the first film isn’t that great. Most people are talking more about the visuals which isn’t surprising that they’re impressive.
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Scott Mendelson is at his screening now.
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Scott Mendelson is at his screening now.
Good for him!
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Why don’t I get a screening? Anyways, glad to hear mostly positive reactions- some guy on Facebook says “I hate 3D, but this is the only way to see it.”
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I got my ticket for Avatar 2 for end of the month showing at 10:00 am. Can't wait.

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