Could you look past the sins of an actor (Will Smith, Bill Cosby) and still admire their art?
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Could you look past the sins of an actor (Will Smith, Bill Cosby) and still admire their art?
The thread title says it all.
Now that the Academy has thrown down Will Smith's punishment, it got me thinking:
Could you look past the sins of an artist -
Will Smith,
Bill Cosby,
Roman Polanski,
Woody Allen,
Harvey Weinstein
...and still admire their art or their contributions to entertainment?
Has a person fallen from grace so much that it's tainted your view of their body of work as a whole?
Now that the Academy has thrown down Will Smith's punishment, it got me thinking:
Could you look past the sins of an artist -
Will Smith,
Bill Cosby,
Roman Polanski,
Woody Allen,
Harvey Weinstein
...and still admire their art or their contributions to entertainment?
Has a person fallen from grace so much that it's tainted your view of their body of work as a whole?
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Re: Could you look past the sins of an actor (Will Smith, Bill Cosby) and still admire their art?
Will Smith does not belong on a list of rapists. Even though we all know he is a POS.
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Re: Could you look past the sins of an actor (Will Smith, Bill Cosby) and still admire their art?
The thread title says it all.
Now that the Academy has thrown down Will Smith's punishment, it got me thinking:
Could you look past the sins of an artist -
Will Smith,
Bill Cosby,
Roman Polanski,
Woody Allen,
Harvey Weinstein
...and still admire their art or their contributions to entertainment?
Has a person fallen from grace so much that it's tainted your view of their body of work as a whole?
Now that the Academy has thrown down Will Smith's punishment, it got me thinking:
Could you look past the sins of an artist -
Will Smith,
Bill Cosby,
Roman Polanski,
Woody Allen,
Harvey Weinstein
...and still admire their art or their contributions to entertainment?
Has a person fallen from grace so much that it's tainted your view of their body of work as a whole?
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Re: Could you look past the sins of an actor (Will Smith, Bill Cosby) and still admire their art?
The thread title says it all.
Now that the Academy has thrown down Will Smith's punishment, it got me thinking:
Could you look past the sins of an artist -
Will Smith,
Bill Cosby,
Roman Polanski,
Woody Allen,
Harvey Weinstein
...and still admire their art or their contributions to entertainment?
Has a person fallen from grace so much that it's tainted your view of their body of work as a whole?
Now that the Academy has thrown down Will Smith's punishment, it got me thinking:
Could you look past the sins of an artist -
Will Smith,
Bill Cosby,
Roman Polanski,
Woody Allen,
Harvey Weinstein
...and still admire their art or their contributions to entertainment?
Has a person fallen from grace so much that it's tainted your view of their body of work as a whole?
Yeah, maybe I should’ve added someone like
Mel Gibson
in there so the list of sinners wouldn’t have been 4 rapists plus Will Smith
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Re: Could you look past the sins of an actor (Will Smith, Bill Cosby) and still admire their art?
Not sure what Woody Allen did, but I watch his movies all the time.
I love the Cosby Show, but I'll admit that it's a bit more difficult to watch these days.
It's pretty easy for me to ignore the behind the camera types. I thought Harvey Weinstein was an a-hole before all this stuff came out and it didn't affect me back then, so it doesn't now.
I love the Cosby Show, but I'll admit that it's a bit more difficult to watch these days.
It's pretty easy for me to ignore the behind the camera types. I thought Harvey Weinstein was an a-hole before all this stuff came out and it didn't affect me back then, so it doesn't now.
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Re: Could you look past the sins of an actor (Will Smith, Bill Cosby) and still admire their art?
I was able to understand the point of your post.
For me it's all subjective but on the whole I'm able to look past it. I wouldn't go out of my way to give money to some of them, so to speak, but I won't refuse to watch Rosemary's Baby or Mad Max.
For me it's all subjective but on the whole I'm able to look past it. I wouldn't go out of my way to give money to some of them, so to speak, but I won't refuse to watch Rosemary's Baby or Mad Max.
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Re: Could you look past the sins of an actor (Will Smith, Bill Cosby) and still admire their art?
I still think Jeepers Creepers is a hell of a horror movie and I wish he'd finally do the sequel to Jeepers Creepers 2.
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Re: Could you look past the sins of an actor (Will Smith, Bill Cosby) and still admire their art?
Does Jeepers Creepers 3 not count? The one released in 2017.
And as mentioned, it’s very subjective. But yeah, WS is a POS, but what he did is nowhere near the same level as what Polanski did. Of course he isn’t banned. That’s why I haven’t been invested in the awards season for years.
And as mentioned, it’s very subjective. But yeah, WS is a POS, but what he did is nowhere near the same level as what Polanski did. Of course he isn’t banned. That’s why I haven’t been invested in the awards season for years.
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Re: Could you look past the sins of an actor (Will Smith, Bill Cosby) and still admire their art?
Does Jeepers Creepers 3 not count? The one released in 2017.
And as mentioned, it’s very subjective. But yeah, WS is a POS, but what he did is nowhere near the same level as what Polanski did. Of course he isn’t banned. That’s why I haven’t been invested in the awards season for years.
And as mentioned, it’s very subjective. But yeah, WS is a POS, but what he did is nowhere near the same level as what Polanski did. Of course he isn’t banned. That’s why I haven’t been invested in the awards season for years.
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Re: Could you look past the sins of an actor (Will Smith, Bill Cosby) and still admire their art?
Are we really lumping Will Smith into this list and going as far as calling him a piece of shit? I don’t agree with what he did, but that seems pretty extreme.
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Re: Could you look past the sins of an actor (Will Smith, Bill Cosby) and still admire their art?
I take the “sinners” on a case by case basis.
I’ll still watch Will Smith and Mel Gibson movies.
I don’t really care for Roman Polanski movies but I’ve watched the ones I want and will “boycott” the ones I’m not really interested in.
As a kid I watched The Cosby Show every week but I haven’t seen it in at least 20 years. Bill Cosby’s movies don’t really amount to much so it’ll be easy to avoid all things Cosby from now on.
I’ll still watch re-runs of That 70s Show even though Danny Masterson seems like a real scumbag.
Despite Shia Labeouf and Army Hammer being shitheads I’ll still watch their movies.
I don’t see myself ever watching another Kevin Spacey or Bryan Singer movie though.
I’ll still watch Will Smith and Mel Gibson movies.
I don’t really care for Roman Polanski movies but I’ve watched the ones I want and will “boycott” the ones I’m not really interested in.
As a kid I watched The Cosby Show every week but I haven’t seen it in at least 20 years. Bill Cosby’s movies don’t really amount to much so it’ll be easy to avoid all things Cosby from now on.
I’ll still watch re-runs of That 70s Show even though Danny Masterson seems like a real scumbag.
Despite Shia Labeouf and Army Hammer being shitheads I’ll still watch their movies.
I don’t see myself ever watching another Kevin Spacey or Bryan Singer movie though.
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Re: Could you look past the sins of an actor (Will Smith, Bill Cosby) and still admire their art?
EDIT: okay, so it took 30 years to ban him.
https://www.glamour.com/story/will-s...lanski-ban/amp
I think he is just based on how he seems in general. This stupid whatever we’re talking about is pretty much in line with how he’s seems to be as a person.
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Re: Could you look past the sins of an actor (Will Smith, Bill Cosby) and still admire their art?
What exactly did Woody Allen do that was criminal? Cheated on his wife with his adopted daughter and later marrying her? I know Mia Farrow was an angry and scorned ex-wife and alleged things, but nothing was ever proven.
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Re: Could you look past the sins of an actor (Will Smith, Bill Cosby) and still admire their art?
Have the allegations of Woody Allen's sexual crimes been supported by any evidence other than verbal accusations? I ask because I haven't followed the scandal. I think I'll always adore Bananas, Love and Death (best comedy of all time), and Sleeper. I also like Play It Again, Sam, which he didn't direct, and Annie Hall isn't bad. The rest of his filmography I can live without. I also find his essay collections discontinuously hilarious and wildly clever.
Polanski incontestably did what he was accused of, and I wish he had faced justice, but I can still admire his directorial artistry. I think The Tenant is his best work.
I think Bill Cosby is one I can no longer appreciate. I was never a fan of the '80s sitcom, but I liked him as a person, and found him very funny at times. He impressed as a personable, nice guy, and of course we now know he is anything but, and utterly without remorse to boot.
Polanski incontestably did what he was accused of, and I wish he had faced justice, but I can still admire his directorial artistry. I think The Tenant is his best work.
I think Bill Cosby is one I can no longer appreciate. I was never a fan of the '80s sitcom, but I liked him as a person, and found him very funny at times. He impressed as a personable, nice guy, and of course we now know he is anything but, and utterly without remorse to boot.
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Yeahhhh Smith doesn't belong on that list.
He's a douche and a weirdo but some of the others are actual monsters.
He's a douche and a weirdo but some of the others are actual monsters.
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It's probably just me but I wouldn't consider Weinstein an artist. He was mainly a producer.
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She wasn’t his adopted daughter either, it was Mia’s.
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Re: Could you look past the sins of an actor (Will Smith, Bill Cosby) and still admire their art?
100% absolutely. No problem whatsoever.
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Re: Could you look past the sins of an actor (Will Smith, Bill Cosby) and still admire their art?
Weinstein is not a creative. Just the money. So I don't link him to the Miramax or Weinstein Co. films in that respect.
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Re: Could you look past the sins of an actor (Will Smith, Bill Cosby) and still admire their art?
I decide on a case to case basis, not even very consistant either.
Will Smith or Mel Gibson are dicks, but that wouldn't stop me from watching their movies. Kevin Spacey is worse, but I'll still watch his past movies and would probably new movies, if they sound interesting.
Harvey Weinstein is a business man, so his involvment doesn't bother me.
I didn't watch anything with Bill Cosby in the last 20 years, just because it didn't interest me, but now I couldn't bring me to watch something. He is more of a serial rapist than a comedian and actor.
Will Smith or Mel Gibson are dicks, but that wouldn't stop me from watching their movies. Kevin Spacey is worse, but I'll still watch his past movies and would probably new movies, if they sound interesting.
Harvey Weinstein is a business man, so his involvment doesn't bother me.
I didn't watch anything with Bill Cosby in the last 20 years, just because it didn't interest me, but now I couldn't bring me to watch something. He is more of a serial rapist than a comedian and actor.
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Jeepers Creepers 3 is not a sequel to Jeepers Creepers 2. The events in JC3 occurred between JC and JC2.
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Re: Could you look past the sins of an actor (Will Smith, Bill Cosby) and still admire their art?
I don't think there is a lot of stuff or any that could be considered "Art" with Will Smith.
If Kevin Spacey was cleared or he was framed maybe since he did a lot of quality films.
If Kevin Spacey was cleared or he was framed maybe since he did a lot of quality films.
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Re: Could you look past the sins of an actor (Will Smith, Bill Cosby) and still admire their art?
Lumping in Will Smith with those others is utterly insane. I will still continue to enjoy Fresh Prince and MIB.




