Movies/Scenes that wouldn't/shouldn't/couldn't be done today?
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#28
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Straw Dogs. Susan George gets ambiguously raped by a man, whom I recall is her ex-boyfriend. She doesn't like the forced sex, but she thinks her manly ex is hotter than her bookish husband, and she has a past history good sex with him. Nuanced rape would be impossible today.
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Have you seen the 2010 remake of The Killer Inside Me (which is superb, by the way)? The little slap above is small potatoes in comparison to the unflinching violence against women in that film.
I haven't seen the remake. Is that scene in it? You may be right about it being taboo nowadays (I don't think so), but I have always found that scene laughably unrealistic. A spray of ketchup, and the young actress doesn't react right.
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Less obviously, I remember watching the original Assault on Precinct 13 and within the first few minutes, a little girl gets brutally murdered on screen.
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The joke in Young Frankenstein where the monster begins to rape a terrified Madeleine Kahn, but once she realizes how big his cock is she turns enthusiastic and orgasmic. I assume this part was changed when they did the Broadway musical?
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Have you seen the 2010 remake of The Killer Inside Me (which is superb, by the way)? The little slap above is small potatoes in comparison to the unflinching violence against women in that film.
I haven't seen the remake. Is that scene in it? You may be right about it being taboo nowadays (I don't think so), but I have always found that scene laughably unrealistic. A spray of ketchup, and the young actress doesn't react right.
I haven't seen the remake. Is that scene in it? You may be right about it being taboo nowadays (I don't think so), but I have always found that scene laughably unrealistic. A spray of ketchup, and the young actress doesn't react right.
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It was low budget for sure but I think the little girl’s lack of reaction is more effective than an overblown, exaggerated death. Her just standing there, stunned, is more disturbing to me. Of course, if I rewatch it, now that you mention it was poorly acted, it may stand out as more corny than disturbing.
Whether that scene is taboo or not, I don’t know but I’m fairly certain filmmakers make a conscious effort not to show children dying ON-SCREEN. If directors make the decision to kill a kid in a movie, it will most definitely be off-screen.
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A lot of gay jokes and in 2001 it was looked as a sin to be gay and that might tick some people off
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I was watching a reaction video on YouTube not long ago with two young women reacting to this movie and they were enjoying the whole thing and didn’t say anything about that scene being rapey which I found odd. They were even kinda laughing at Kahn’s whole reaction to the forced sex. So, maybe there’s people that don’t automatically have a problem with that kind of scene but it still probably wouldn’t work in a new movie.
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I remember seeing this old Tim Conway/Harvey Korman sketch from The Carol Burnett Show on Youtube and thinking, "Wow, there's no way they could get away with that today."
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The "You know how I know you're gay" scene from The 40 Year Old Virgin.
Robert Downey Jr blackface in Tropic Thunder. Even though it was mean't to mock self absorbed actors and not black people, there's no way it would happen today. Simple Jack wouldn't happen either.
John Ford probably wouldn't have a career today.
Also, Conan O'Brien's entire run as host of Late Night wouldn't happen today. Specifically gay jokes about actors that were still in the closet. But a lot more too.
Robert Downey Jr blackface in Tropic Thunder. Even though it was mean't to mock self absorbed actors and not black people, there's no way it would happen today. Simple Jack wouldn't happen either.
John Ford probably wouldn't have a career today.
Also, Conan O'Brien's entire run as host of Late Night wouldn't happen today. Specifically gay jokes about actors that were still in the closet. But a lot more too.
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Sub question. Tropic Thunder came out in 2008, and assuming most agree that it couldn't be made in 2021, is there a more recent film than that, that wouldn't/couldn't/shouldn't be made today?
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Tropic Thunder probably wouldn't be made, but for the wrong reasons. Ben Stiller is mocking Hollywood uses stereotypes to do so, but cranks up the stereotype so much, that no one could misunderstand who is the target of the mockery, but even that would be considered insensitive by some. We are at point where there is outrage towards Sia, because she cast a non-autistic actress for character with autism.
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So, it's safe to say that nothing remotely provocative--rightly or wrongly--could never be made today. I'm not sure how to feel about that. On one hand we wouldn't have films like Blazing Saddles. On the flip side, we had fewer Donald Trumps (?)
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I guess at some point, someone bigger than Sia has to stand up against the twitter mob and show the world, those twitter comments aren't representing the majority and in most cases not even the minority that's supposed to be offended in the first place.
I don't get why Scarlett Johansson or Halle Berry can't play a trans person. Where does it stop. Do we cancel Neil Patrick Harris because he "stole" the role ment for a womanizer in How I met your Mother? Should have Tom Hanks or Matt McConaughey contracted AIDS to play their Oscar winning roles?
A few weeks back I watched the western The Unforgiven with Burt Lancaster and Audrey Hepburn and while I did like the movie for the most part, the open racisim towards Native Americans couldn't have gone unnoticed, even back then when movie was made. Those movies can't get made today neither should have been made back then.
I'm also glad that making fun of homosexuality isn't OK anymore, but I think the Blue Oyster Bar in Police Academy should be OK, since these scenes just show the insecurity of the guys to stumble into the bar.
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Sorry but you can be offended...
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It’s been a long time since I’ve seen the remake but I don’t recall that scene being in it.
It was low budget for sure but I think the little girl’s lack of reaction is more effective than an overblown, exaggerated death. Her just standing there, stunned, is more disturbing to me. Of course, if I rewatch it, now that you mention it was poorly acted, it may stand out as more corny than disturbing.
Whether that scene is taboo or not, I don’t know but I’m fairly certain filmmakers make a conscious effort not to show children dying ON-SCREEN. If directors make the decision to kill a kid in a movie, it will most definitely be off-screen.
It was low budget for sure but I think the little girl’s lack of reaction is more effective than an overblown, exaggerated death. Her just standing there, stunned, is more disturbing to me. Of course, if I rewatch it, now that you mention it was poorly acted, it may stand out as more corny than disturbing.
Whether that scene is taboo or not, I don’t know but I’m fairly certain filmmakers make a conscious effort not to show children dying ON-SCREEN. If directors make the decision to kill a kid in a movie, it will most definitely be off-screen.
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El Dorado (1966) - Fun western with John Wayne and Robert Mitchum but the scene with James Caan posing as a Chinese man was pretty embarrassing and racist.
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I think sensitivity to others and using discretion is important for an artist to consider to consider--as long as they are not pressured by the outside.
I wouldn't shed any tears if movies like A Boy and His Dog go the wayside, but I would be deeply sad if movies like Blazing Saddles or The People vs Larry Flynt didn't exist, as they have something socially redeeming to say. Free expression is a tricky thing.
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Such as how Fast Times at Ridgemont High, Porky's, etc ... was back in the day.
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I suppose outside of seeing a mainstream actress/actor nude in a film that wouldn't be in a porn flick.
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I thought it was more the advent of pg-13 that killed those kinds of scenes/movies?
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The "You know how I know you're gay" scene from The 40 Year Old Virgin.
Robert Downey Jr blackface in Tropic Thunder. Even though it was mean't to mock self absorbed actors and not black people, there's no way it would happen today. Simple Jack wouldn't happen either.
John Ford probably wouldn't have a career today.
Also, Conan O'Brien's entire run as host of Late Night wouldn't happen today. Specifically gay jokes about actors that were still in the closet. But a lot more too.
Robert Downey Jr blackface in Tropic Thunder. Even though it was mean't to mock self absorbed actors and not black people, there's no way it would happen today. Simple Jack wouldn't happen either.
John Ford probably wouldn't have a career today.
Also, Conan O'Brien's entire run as host of Late Night wouldn't happen today. Specifically gay jokes about actors that were still in the closet. But a lot more too.
They are looking at old Letterman shows and his treatment towards some female guests and he retired so he can not be cancelled.