I wonder how much the accelerated production schedule affected what we ultimately got from the sequel trilogy. If the time between entries had been 3 years instead of 2 and Johnson/Trevorrow/et al could have actually seen the movies they were making sequels to before beginning the creative process, would we have gotten something better?

I'd say somewhat better, not necessarily masterpiece level though. The issue was they needed a beginning, middle and ending set in place before they started. The individual director's personal touches would have given each entry it's own flavor, but it still would have fit the overall narrative (like in the OT, TESB and ROTJ were directed by Kirshner and Marquand, but because George had the story more or less in place, they still worked together).

The ST we got may have had a rough outline in place, but the compressed schedule made it so they couldn't really see the finished product in enough time to make major changes. And then refusing to alter TLJ to account for Carrie's death was just stubborn pride.

Lucas didn't have any kind of plan going into the PT, either, other than it had cover the pre-established backstory of the OT.

There are some glaring gaps in it. It's obvious that he had no idea how to fit the Force Ghosts into the story, other than handwave it away with a line of dialog. And, according to ROTJ, Luke and Leia's mother survived long enough that Leia could remember her.

Pre-planned, my ass. It's painfully obvious that, by the time Lucas got around to making ROTS that he had written himself into several corners in the previous two prequel films and couldn't back out of them.

What would really have been George's planned sequels if they were following the 'droids like he said ages ago?

I think the idea was that R2-D2 and C-3PO would be the only characters appearing in all nine films, and it would sort of be told through them.

You can see this idea play out in the OT, where ANH begins with them aboard the blockade runner, and they're essentially present throughout the whole story. And in ESB, when Luke splits from Han and Leia after the Hoth evacuation, R2 is with Luke and 3PO is with Han and Leia. And, again, R2 and 3PO are present throughout ROTJ (though they stay on Endor's moon and neither goes with Luke to the Death Star II.)

They are less present in the PT, though, since by that time, George had shifted gears and decided that Star Wars was the story of Darth Vader and the story wouldn't extend beyond ROTJ.

That. Give me a space opera version of Big Red One/Band of Brothers as told by R2 and the original C-3PO. Give me the story of galactic war and politics with characters coming and going. That is why I hate what Star Wars has become. It isn't about star wars ... it's about a family tree with too few branches.

I think I have mentioned it before ... but when watching the HBO series ROME, I kept thinking it had that feeling to it. Imagine Titus and Pullo in the R2-D2 and C-3PO roles. I loved it.

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Patty Jenkins drops out of directing Cleopatra to movie into a producer role so she can focus on WW3 and Rogue Squadron.

That's a stupid argument. Those things are not mutually exclusive. Of course it doesn't guarantee that having a plan will produce a good trilogy. Of course he didn't have a plan with the OT because he didn't even know he was making a trilogy. But now that the ST is complete the number one issue with the ST is that it is totally disjointed from episode to episode with each one retconning the other producing a very shaky story. So yeah it's not a magic bullet but it would have immensely helped to have a road map of a plot for the ST.

It's a good thing Star Wars shows no signs of stopping anytime soon. I was mixed on the prequels when they came out, and I was glad when the sequels were greenlit so we'd be moving on from that era. I enjoyed the sequels much better, and the prequels actually grew on me to the point where now I'd say I'm a fan of the entire saga. So if you don't like the current output, just wait, something different will eventually come along, and when you look back on now, your opinion could possibly improve.

None of it is perfect. Star Wars has had a lot of ups and downs. Holiday Special? Ewok movies? It's not a new occurrence. They'll keep trying different things though and I'll keep watching. I see the flaws and imperfections, they just don't matter to me as much as how much I enjoy what does work.

May the Force be with you.

I will keep watching as long as they don't force them down our throat. Do you know what they say to a jockey when he arrives to the starting gate for a race?



I'm all for more Star Wars goodness... god knows we went decades without anything but EU books. But there is no reason to not give us high quality content. Marvel pulled it off wonderfully... Star Wars has a deep well and even less restrictions (given fewer cannon books / comics) so quantity with quality is preferred. The TV shows seem to really be the future of SW anyhow; The Mandalorian is leagues better than the last 3 movies, IMO.

Pulled off the release calendar. Sounds like this project is likely dead.

Well that just leaves more room for Rian Johnson’s trilogy…right? Right?!

Disappointing... I wonder how much of it had to do with the shit that was WW2?

Damn, this was the Star Wars project I was easily most excited for.

That's too bad - love that book series and always thought it would have made a great movie/series. Even if this wasn't that story verbatim, the idea is still sound.

They keep greenlighting these movies as things to fill a slot instead of a story that's wanting to be told. The story of Rogue One was in the shadows since 1977 and it took John Knoll to push for it to be made. Solo kinda had some basis in the background of the character (that was done better in the novels). And while we all wanted to see the original gang back in action, the sequels fell on their face because they threw out the decades of work done in the novels and comics.

That a new film won't be coming until 2025 is good news. Scrap all of these one-offs and come up with a new trilogy. (makes sense to go with the High Republic)

I love some of the Star Wars stuff (not all of it, of course) that has been on Disney +, but make no mistake: they've really diluted the brand by doing all these TV shows. While a new Star Wars movie should still bring in the cash, they're not going to generate the kind of buzz for it as they used to. Remember when we were promised one new movie every year? Yeah, that lasted a whole five years.

damn, I was looking forward to this.

Everything.

Yes, i was, too.

Good! You're as good as your last film and that was one of the biggest falls from a tier 1 director we've ever seen. An absolute embarrassment, Lucasfilm actually did one good thing ditching this to the curb.

the concept is good tho. I'd love a series of movies about an x-wing squadron. a bunch of no name actors. a real ensemble piece... pilots routinely getting KIA, new pilots coming in.... keep you on your toes....

Indeed, sounds like a great streaming series. They've already damaged the films nearly to ruin (which is why you're seeing the 6+yrs delay) - rebrand them as must see event films.

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