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Old 11-09-21 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by TomOpus
Never said every fan. I'm a SW fan, myself. But look what happens to pretty much every SW thread around here with the haters. It's like a religion.
Not Mandalorian... what Disney needs to do is make good content. They've been able to produce movies that make a ton of money but are less than critically acclaimed... leads me to believe they're lacking in the creativity department. I would watch Rogue Squadron but it doesn't exactly resonate as something I need to have as a life-long SW fan.
Old 11-09-21 | 04:53 PM
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Not Mandalorian... what Disney needs to do is make good content. They've been able to produce movies that make a ton of money but are less than critically acclaimed... leads me to believe they're lacking in the creativity department. I would watch Rogue Squadron but it doesn't exactly resonate as something I need to have as a life-long SW fan.
Hard disagree, ever since Rogue One I've been wanting a movie about the Rogue Squadron.
Old 11-09-21 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob V
WW84 was a bad movie, start to finish. It had a non-sensical, amateurish plot that generated no greater purpose for the universe it resides in.
That wasn't my point. Yes you and others didn't like it, but regardless of that, the movie would have absolutely made much more than just $46M in the U.S. had it been released in 4,000 theaters like now. But, it was released during a compromised time.

But, that's an after thought now.
Old 11-09-21 | 07:08 PM
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There was a series of X-Wing novels that had several entries and also several games based around space combat. I think there’s a decent audience for something like this you’d just need to make it resonate the right way.

Maybe do another Rogue One and have a story set between Episodes 4 and 5 about a critical battle between the Rebellion and the Empire.
Old 11-09-21 | 07:36 PM
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I wouldn't mind a Memphis Belle in space type movie.
Old 11-09-21 | 07:46 PM
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I thought this was supposed to be loosely based on the video game?


Old 11-09-21 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by devilshalo
I thought this was supposed to be loosely based on the video game?

So they never get into space?
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Old 11-10-21 | 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by devilshalo
I thought this was supposed to be loosely based on the video game?

I loved that game and spent many hours on it. But I don't really remember any kind of memorable plot to it.

Originally Posted by bunkaroo
So they never get into space?
OMG I never even thought about that. Were there any levels in space?
Old 11-15-21 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Deftones
Yeah scheduling conflicts either means script issues or creative differences.
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I'm betting I wasn’t the only one who chuckled when the news broke on Tuesday that the Patty Jenkins Star Wars film—the one that Disney trumpeted with a video of the Wonder Woman director saying her goal was the “greatest fighter pilot movie ever made”; the one that had a title, Rogue Squadron, and a release date, in 2023; and the one with the it’s-really-taken-this-long? designation as the first Star Wars film to be directed by a woman—was not happening. Well, not not happening, just delayed indefinitely, if you believe Disney. Scheduling problems, prior commitments, we’ll regroup next year, yadda yadda.

I talked to a few insiders this week that said the real culprit was the dreaded “creative differences”; specifically, Jenkins couldn’t agree on the script with Lucasfilm executives, including senior V.P. Michelle Rejwan. That’s not unusual, of course, but it’s a laughably recurring problem at Lucasfilm under president Kathleen Kennedy, say agents: Top filmmakers are dying to make a Star Wars movie—until they sign on and experience the micromanagement and plot-point-by-committee process. It happened to the Game of Thrones guys, David Benioff and Dan Weiss, who were hired to create a new trilogy but bailed. It also happened to Rian Johnson, writer and director of 2017’s The Last Jedi, whose own planned trilogy was shelved. Jenkins wasn’t willing to dick around, and she has other projects, notably Wonder Woman 3 at Warner Bros., where she enjoys more creative freedom. (Disney and personal representatives for Jenkins and Kennedy declined to comment.)
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Old 11-15-21 | 12:09 PM
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Benioff, Weiss, Johnson and Jenkins. I'm noticing a pattern here.

Let Jenkins go fuck up WW3 and leave Rogue Squadron to someone capable. If they're hell-bent on giving it to a woman... then give it Debra Chow or Dallas Bryce-Howard.
Old 11-15-21 | 12:10 PM
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Scheduling conflicts
Old 11-15-21 | 12:56 PM
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I'm not saying I have a lot of faith in Jenkins but I have even less in Kennedy.
Old 11-15-21 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by candyrocket786
Let Jenkins go fuck up WW3 and leave Rogue Squadron to someone capable. If they're hell-bent on giving it to a woman... then give it Debra Chow or Dallas Bryce-Howard.
I’d prefer Bryce Dallas Howard over Jenkins anyway. There might be concerns over her skimpy directing resume but Disney seems to have faith in her for The Mandalorian and Book of Boba Fett. Might as well give her a shot at a feature length movie. Tout it as the first father/daughter who directed a Star Wars movie.

As far a the creative differences for Jenkins being a disagreement over the script, I don’t know who to side with. With Kennedy at the helm, Star Wars hasn’t exactly made great movies (with the exception of Rogue One which was a miracle that it ended up being as good as it was). Jenkins, on the other hand, wrote the screenplay and has a Story By credit for WW84 which is one of the worst big budget movies I’ve ever seen. I certainly wouldn’t put her on top of the list of an expert in all things script related.
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Old 11-15-21 | 02:25 PM
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I’d prefer Bryce Dallas Howard over Jenkins anyway. There might be concerns over her skimpy directing resume but Disney seems to have faith in her for The Mandalorian and Book of Boba Fett. Might as well give her a shot at a feature length movie. Tout it as the first father/daughter who directed a Star Wars movie.
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I would have more faith in this than those GOT idiots or RJ doing a SW film. Sure her resume is short, but you have to start somewhere.
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Old 11-15-21 | 03:00 PM
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I've got to think that the massive derailment of TLJ was what made Kennedy so gunshy about taking on director's who want to make their own mark. There's room for putting your own touch and feel on Star Wars (despite the similarities to ANH, TFA still manages to have it's own Abrams inspired flavor and Rogue One managed to do an almost gritty war movie while still being a damn good Star Wars movie) but you need to work within the framework that's been established. I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that's what happened with Patty.
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Old 11-15-21 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by milo bloom
I've got to think that the massive derailment of TLJ was what made Kennedy so gunshy about taking on director's who want to make their own mark. There's room for putting your own touch and feel on Star Wars (despite the similarities to ANH, TFA still manages to have it's own Abrams inspired flavor and Rogue One managed to do an almost gritty war movie while still being a damn good Star Wars movie) but you need to work within the framework that's been established. I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that's what happened with Patty.
I’m perfectly fine with that but if Kennedy wants to have a semblance of a throughline in the movies she needs to, you know, have an overall story arc pre-planned out. It’s not fair to these filmmakers to control every aspect of the film if Kennedy has no idea what the story should be. I’m sure plenty of directors would be more than happy to work out their story under a set of established story points but they have to know where the series is going.

You can’t say this movie is going to be made based on my rules and then not have any rules to give to the director.
Old 11-15-21 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by DJariya
Scheduling conflicts
I did like that. It's like "Damn, I forgot I was supposed to be shooting a Star Wars movie for Disney that month. My bad. I really gotta remember to put these dates in my calendar".
Old 11-16-21 | 02:04 AM
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There hasn’t been a worthwhile Star Wars movie in nearly 40 years. This movie is going to suck no matter what.
Old 11-16-21 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Hazel Motes
There hasn’t been a worthwhile Star Wars movie in nearly 40 years. This movie is going to suck no matter what.
Rogue One.
Old 11-16-21 | 09:50 AM
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Rogue One.
Rogue Motherf*ckin' One, more like it.

Seriously, I would put it up against the OT in terms of emotional and story impact.
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Old 11-16-21 | 10:41 AM
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I was never in love with the idea of Patty Jenkins directing this film anyways. It always felt reactionary to choose her because of how well Wonder Woman went over.

After Wonder Woman 1984 wasn’t very good, and with her not having much of a filmography to stand on I’m kind of glad she’s not working out and hope she’s off the film.
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I hear the dispute was over the fact that Jenkins wanted to include kyber wishing crystal that brought Han back in the body of Lando but only until Chewbacca renounced his wish.
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Old 11-16-21 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by milo bloom
Rogue Motherf*ckin' One, more like it.

Seriously, I would put it up against the OT in terms of emotional and story impact.
They really missed an opportunity by not making a trilogy based around those characters. Damn, it would have been glorious.
Old 11-16-21 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Hazel Motes
There hasn’t been a worthwhile Star Wars movie in nearly 40 years. This movie is going to suck no matter what.
The Force Awakens was good. What followed was not, but don't take away from that movie.
Old 11-16-21 | 01:48 PM
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Rogue Squadron would make a better Disney+ television series than a movie.
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