Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021, D: Watts) - S: Tom Holland
#101
DVD Talk Legend
re: Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021, D: Watts) - S: Tom Holland
Sigh...apparently not even the actors understand how any of this works.
"We want Spiderman back" - Sorry buddy, it was always Sony's.
"We want Spiderman back" - Sorry buddy, it was always Sony's.
#102
Banned
re: Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021, D: Watts) - S: Tom Holland
No, it wasn't. Sony only owns the Spider-Man movie rights since the mid-90's, when Marvel went bankrupt. What Renner is asking is the same thing people were saying when Fox owned the rights to X-Men and FF. Right now, Spider-Man (and the characters created in that title) are the ones that Sony controls and is the only thing preventing Marvel from owning the film rights to all their properties once again.
#103
re: Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021, D: Watts) - S: Tom Holland
Sony Pictures is vowing to carry on the Spider-Man franchise without Marvel Studios’ involvement, placing the blame on Disney for cutting the successful inter-studio cooperation short.
In a statement obtained exclusively by The Hollywood Reporter, the studio says it is “disappointed” that Marvel president Kevin Feige will no longer act as lead producer on the film franchise, squarely laying the decision at Disney’s feet.
“Much of today’s news about Spider-Man has mischaracterized recent discussions about Kevin Feige’s involvement in the franchise,” says a Sony spokesperson. “We are disappointed, but respect Disney’s decision not to have him continue as a lead producer of our next live-action Spider-Man film.”
The studio then says Feige, who shepherds the robust Marvel Cinematic Universe for Disney-owned Marvel, may just have too much on his plate, given that Disney recently acquired additional Marvel characters via its acquisition of 21st Century Fox.
“We hope this might change in the future, but understand that the many new responsibilities that Disney has given him — including all their newly added Marvel properties — do not allow time for him to work on IP they do not own,” says the statement. “Kevin is terrific and we are grateful for his help and guidance and appreciate the path he has helped put us on, which we will continue.”
The statement comes as THR and others reported Tuesday that Sony and Disney have parted ways as co-producers on the revived Spider-Man movie franchise. Reports suggest that studio chiefs Tom Rothman at Sony and Alan Horn at Disney could not agree on a financial arrangement to continue to collaborate.
Disney and Sony entered into a unique partnership for Marvel to produce the Spider-Man movies that starred Tom Holland. The deal saw Feige as lead producer on Spider-Man: Homecoming and Spider-Man: Far From Home in a complex arrangement that allowed the hero, whose movie rights are controlled by Sony, to appear in Marvel’s Captain America: Civil War and two Avengers movies.
The two sides had been talking about ways to extend the deal for future Spider-Man movies to star Holland, but talks collapsed recently.
Sony announced Monday that Far From Home had surpassed Skyfall to become the studio’s most successful release, with a worldwide haul of $1.109 billion and counting. The film will be rereleased over the Labor Day weekend with four minutes of additional footage.
In a statement obtained exclusively by The Hollywood Reporter, the studio says it is “disappointed” that Marvel president Kevin Feige will no longer act as lead producer on the film franchise, squarely laying the decision at Disney’s feet.
“Much of today’s news about Spider-Man has mischaracterized recent discussions about Kevin Feige’s involvement in the franchise,” says a Sony spokesperson. “We are disappointed, but respect Disney’s decision not to have him continue as a lead producer of our next live-action Spider-Man film.”
The studio then says Feige, who shepherds the robust Marvel Cinematic Universe for Disney-owned Marvel, may just have too much on his plate, given that Disney recently acquired additional Marvel characters via its acquisition of 21st Century Fox.
“We hope this might change in the future, but understand that the many new responsibilities that Disney has given him — including all their newly added Marvel properties — do not allow time for him to work on IP they do not own,” says the statement. “Kevin is terrific and we are grateful for his help and guidance and appreciate the path he has helped put us on, which we will continue.”
The statement comes as THR and others reported Tuesday that Sony and Disney have parted ways as co-producers on the revived Spider-Man movie franchise. Reports suggest that studio chiefs Tom Rothman at Sony and Alan Horn at Disney could not agree on a financial arrangement to continue to collaborate.
Disney and Sony entered into a unique partnership for Marvel to produce the Spider-Man movies that starred Tom Holland. The deal saw Feige as lead producer on Spider-Man: Homecoming and Spider-Man: Far From Home in a complex arrangement that allowed the hero, whose movie rights are controlled by Sony, to appear in Marvel’s Captain America: Civil War and two Avengers movies.
The two sides had been talking about ways to extend the deal for future Spider-Man movies to star Holland, but talks collapsed recently.
Sony announced Monday that Far From Home had surpassed Skyfall to become the studio’s most successful release, with a worldwide haul of $1.109 billion and counting. The film will be rereleased over the Labor Day weekend with four minutes of additional footage.
#104
DVD Talk Legend
re: Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021, D: Watts) - S: Tom Holland
No, it wasn't. Sony only owns the Spider-Man movie rights since the mid-90's, when Marvel went bankrupt. What Renner is asking is the same thing people were saying when Fox owned the rights to X-Men and FF. Right now, Spider-Man (and the characters created in that title) are the ones that Sony controls and is the only thing preventing Marvel from owning the film rights to all their properties once again.
They didn't strong-arm for the rights to SM; they bought them. And now people are getting on THEIR case because they don't want to hand over 50% of their largest property to Disney. I don't get it.
#106
DVD Talk Hero
re: Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021, D: Watts) - S: Tom Holland
The sports analogy I saw was that Sony was the Bulls and Disney is Jordan. If Sony wants to go without Jordan...I mean, okay. We'll see how that goes.
#107
DVD Talk Legend
#108
DVD Talk Legend
re: Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021, D: Watts) - S: Tom Holland
5% of the money is a joke. Disney is right to ask for more if that's ALL that they're going to get out of the deal going forward. They're putting in the work to make this movies, not Sony.
Sony has screwed up a lot of franchises in recent history, and the woman largely responsible for that is now going to guide the Spider-Man franchise? WTF??
#109
DVD Talk Legend
re: Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021, D: Watts) - S: Tom Holland
Eh, I agree that 5% is on the low side for Disney but 50/50 is laughable when they don't own the property being made into movies.
Sony knows they have a winner with Insomniac and the game franchise now. They could never make a movie and just use the licence for those game and probably make more than a 50/50 movie deal with Disney.
Sony knows they have a winner with Insomniac and the game franchise now. They could never make a movie and just use the licence for those game and probably make more than a 50/50 movie deal with Disney.
#110
DVD Talk Hero
re: Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021, D: Watts) - S: Tom Holland
No, it wasn't. Sony only owns the Spider-Man movie rights since the mid-90's, when Marvel went bankrupt. What Renner is asking is the same thing people were saying when Fox owned the rights to X-Men and FF. Right now, Spider-Man (and the characters created in that title) are the ones that Sony controls and is the only thing preventing Marvel from owning the film rights to all their properties once again.
#111
DVD Talk Hero
re: Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021, D: Watts) - S: Tom Holland
Which is why we are never going to see another Hulk solo movie made under Marvel. Universal gets the money from any Hulk solo movie and Disney doesn't want to produce a film for a rival studio.
#112
re: Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021, D: Watts) - S: Tom Holland
Yeah, I'm on the fuck Disney side of this too. They have gotten so greedy over the years it's sickening. Saying 50/50 or nothing and just walking away just shows that they throw their power at every situation. Being able to use Spiderman in their movies benefited them too. I remember people going nuts at the end of that Civil War trailer when he was first introduced.
If Sony was smart they would have Spiderman play a role in the next Venom movie. And more than just a cameo.
If Sony was smart they would have Spiderman play a role in the next Venom movie. And more than just a cameo.
#113
Moderator
re: Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021, D: Watts) - S: Tom Holland
#114
#115
DVD Talk Limited Edition
re: Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021, D: Watts) - S: Tom Holland
Without Disney/Marvel, what is Sony going to do? Proceed with that Sinister Six idea they were so sloppily setting up??
#116
Senior Member
re: Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021, D: Watts) - S: Tom Holland
According to Forbes:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/markhug.../#7385dc166b50
Which brings us to the current stalemate between Disney-Marvel and Sony. To clear up some misconceptions spreading on social media and some press outlets, the disagreement doesn't simply stem from "Disney wanting half of the box office," as it's been simplistically and falsely stated by certain corners of media and fandom.
Disney's actual position was that they wanted to share the costsof making the Spider-Man movies — again, Sony currently pays for the production and marketing of the solo movies, but Disney offered to pay 50% of production costs. That's why they also want to split the box office results — pay half the costs, get half the results. In addition, Disney suggested Marvel get involved in the spinoff movies (such as Venom 2), raising the potential those films might also wind up folded into the MCU as well.
In other words, Disney wanted to pay half of Sony's costs to make these films, to help in the making of the spinoffs, and would possibly open the door for spinoffs to participate in the MCU — meaning crossovers would be possible at that point — as well as also getting half of the box office.
Disney's actual position was that they wanted to share the costsof making the Spider-Man movies — again, Sony currently pays for the production and marketing of the solo movies, but Disney offered to pay 50% of production costs. That's why they also want to split the box office results — pay half the costs, get half the results. In addition, Disney suggested Marvel get involved in the spinoff movies (such as Venom 2), raising the potential those films might also wind up folded into the MCU as well.
In other words, Disney wanted to pay half of Sony's costs to make these films, to help in the making of the spinoffs, and would possibly open the door for spinoffs to participate in the MCU — meaning crossovers would be possible at that point — as well as also getting half of the box office.
#117
re: Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021, D: Watts) - S: Tom Holland
#118
re: Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021, D: Watts) - S: Tom Holland
Sony’s Tom Rothman and Marvel’s Kevin Feige had plenty of smiles at the Hollywood premiere of Spider-Man: Far From Home in late June, but the pearly whites belied an inner turmoil. While the executives hit the red carpet, talks to extend the unique partnership between Sony and Disney, which owns Marvel Studios, were breaking down over the future use of the character of Spider-Man.
Disney had been seeking a co-financing arrangement on upcoming movies, looking for at least a 30 percent stake. Sony, which counts Spider-Man as one of its only reliable moneymaking franchises, said no. Before both sides walked away, talks had gone to the top level, with Rothman and CEO Tony Vinciquerra on Sony’s side and Disney Studios' co-chairmen Alan Horn and Alan Bergman involved. In the next month and a half, Far From Home would go on to catch $1.109 billion in the box office web, becoming Sony’s biggest movie of all time. The figure reinforced both sides’ thinking. Sony executives believed they didn’t need Disney anymore, and Disney was in no way leaving money, and Peter Parker, behind, sources tell The Hollywood Reporter.
The divorce spilled out in public on August 20, with Sony laying the blame at Disney’s feet, saying the Burbank-based studio now had Feige too busy to work on future movies. "We hope this might change in the future, but understand that the many new responsibilities that Disney has given him — including all their newly added Marvel properties — do not allow time for him to work on IP they do not own," a Sony Pictures statement read. The feud marked a rare display of inter-studio conflict. Even Avengers: Endgame star Jeremy Renner joined the fray, making an Instagram plea, "Hey @sonypictures we want Spider-Man back to @therealstanlee and @marvel please, thank you."
Disney and Sony were in different places when the idea of a co-operation was broached in 2014. Sony was coming off of two successful but widely derided Amazing Spider-Man movies and was seen as squandering the most popular Marvel hero. Marvel, while successful, was still finding its footing in its “phase two” of movies, jumping from a nadir with Thor: Dark World to a zenith with Guardians of the Galaxy.
It was in this environment that then Sony Pictures Entertainment co-chairperson Amy Pascal reached out to Feige and over lunch made a proposal. What ensued was a very simple arrangement. So simple, say insiders, that the deal was only a four to five page document. Sony would loan Spider-Man out for one movie, Captain America: Civil War, and in return, Sony would get Feige’s producing service for two movies. The deal was later revised to include both Avengers: Infinity War and Endgame. “You have to remember, Marvel wasn’t in the same place as it was now. There was a still a question of how far could this ‘superhero thing’ go,” said one insider familiar with the deal.
Disney did not get a producing fee nor did Feige for the initial deal, say multiple insiders. “Just getting Spider-Man in even one of their movies at the time, that was a stem cell infusion for Marvel,” notes a source regarding the company’s willingness to make a deal at the time.
There was also the unique merchandising arrangement. Sony had earlier relinquished the merchandising rights to Disney for a one-time payment of $175 million. Also in the deal, insiders note, was a provision that saw Disney making a yearly royalty payment to Sony that was amounting to around $30 million a year. Sources say that Disney tied the royalty to the performance of the Feige-produced movies; the better the movies performed, the lower the royalty. (It is unclear whether this will change going forward.)
Regardless, the arrangement was groundbreaking. Here was a major studio loaning out one of its top lieutenants to a rival that owned the movie rights of a character it owned in all other respects. And Feige was given carte blanche to run Spider-Man the way he wanted, even as Sony held the purse.
And both reaped in the rewards of the arrangement. Civil War, with key support from the web-slinger, grossed $1.15 billion. Homecoming, the first Feige-made movie, made $880.1 million, even as it featured Marvel’s Iron Man and deepened the intertwining story threads of the two companies’ movies. And Spider-Man was also an emotional foil and fan favorite in the two-part Avengers movies, both of which grossed over $2 billion. In the case of Avengers: Endgame, the movie became the top-money earner of all time. Marvel took a victory lap at Comic-Con, driving fans into a frenzy by teasing new movies. The MCU, with its next phase set, appears nearly unstoppable.
Sony, meanwhile, also forged ahead with renewed commitment to its Spider-Man spinoff. At a retreat, Rothman, who took over from Pascal when the latter was fired amid the Sony email hack, was convinced by two executives to see superhero films as not a fad but as genres within a larger genre, sources say. The result was Venom, a critically scorned movie that nevertheless grossed $856 million. A sequel is now in the works. Also in post-production is Morbius with Jared Leto.
And then there was Phil Lord and Chris Miller's Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse, the animated movie that became one of 2018’s critical darlings and won the best animated movie Oscar. The feeling from Sony was that they bounced back to a place where they could strike on their own. “Tom is thinking ‘Okay, we’ve learned everything we need to from Kevin’s playbook. We did Venom on our own and we did Spider-Verse,'” comments a Sony insider.
Now, insiders at both studios are pointing fingers at one another about counter offers that never happened or offers that were supposedly mighty generous. "The economic terms for that [Spider-Man] franchise seem to have gotten more complicated – partly reflecting Disney’s shifting priorities since the Fox acquisition," says Wall Street analyst Tuna Amobi, of CFRA Research, who isn't surprised by the impasse. "From an economic and creative standpoint, I would think the development probably has more implications either way for Sony."
Rothman will need to deliver Marvel-less fare that lives up to hype of the character's MCU appearances. "If the two sides don’t come to a compromise, it’s a lose-lose for everybody," argues Shawn Robbins, chief analyst for industry website Box Office. "Marvel won’t be able to resolve the cliffhanger in future movies, which is saying something when it’s their most popular hero. And for Sony, who has had success, Far From Home doesn’t get to a billion dollars without Feige and Marvel’s involvement."
Robbins adds, "The other big question is, 'How are fans are going to react to a Tom Holland Spider-Man movie that not set in the MCU?' That is a roll of the dice that no studio should take."
Because there's so much money to be made, the parties could also eventually come back to the table. “It is in the best interests of both sides to have come to an agreement,” notes analyst Steven Birenberg of Northlake Capital Management, which owns shares of Disney. “Spidey is an important part of what Marvel has been doing in the MCU and seemed to be for what they plan to do. Perhaps for the first time since Iron Man and the first few films after there is some uncertainty as to the success of future Marvel films, defining success as the ridiculously high bar that the Avengers has set.”
Feige, meanwhile, does have plenty on his plate, including the sizzle of sequels to Thor and Black Panther and Captain Marvel as well as new chef’s concoctions such as The Eternals and Blade, not to mention a pantry filled with mutants, meaning Fox's X-Men.
Sony’s slate is less diverse and while it is moving ahead with spinoffs and a sequel to Venom, the future of Spider-Man is unclear. Holland is said to have an option for one more movie while director Jon Watts is done with his two-picture deal and is free to pursue other projects. "The big test will be two years or so from now, when an eventual Spider-Man movie is made," says the Sony insider.
Disney had been seeking a co-financing arrangement on upcoming movies, looking for at least a 30 percent stake. Sony, which counts Spider-Man as one of its only reliable moneymaking franchises, said no. Before both sides walked away, talks had gone to the top level, with Rothman and CEO Tony Vinciquerra on Sony’s side and Disney Studios' co-chairmen Alan Horn and Alan Bergman involved. In the next month and a half, Far From Home would go on to catch $1.109 billion in the box office web, becoming Sony’s biggest movie of all time. The figure reinforced both sides’ thinking. Sony executives believed they didn’t need Disney anymore, and Disney was in no way leaving money, and Peter Parker, behind, sources tell The Hollywood Reporter.
The divorce spilled out in public on August 20, with Sony laying the blame at Disney’s feet, saying the Burbank-based studio now had Feige too busy to work on future movies. "We hope this might change in the future, but understand that the many new responsibilities that Disney has given him — including all their newly added Marvel properties — do not allow time for him to work on IP they do not own," a Sony Pictures statement read. The feud marked a rare display of inter-studio conflict. Even Avengers: Endgame star Jeremy Renner joined the fray, making an Instagram plea, "Hey @sonypictures we want Spider-Man back to @therealstanlee and @marvel please, thank you."
Disney and Sony were in different places when the idea of a co-operation was broached in 2014. Sony was coming off of two successful but widely derided Amazing Spider-Man movies and was seen as squandering the most popular Marvel hero. Marvel, while successful, was still finding its footing in its “phase two” of movies, jumping from a nadir with Thor: Dark World to a zenith with Guardians of the Galaxy.
It was in this environment that then Sony Pictures Entertainment co-chairperson Amy Pascal reached out to Feige and over lunch made a proposal. What ensued was a very simple arrangement. So simple, say insiders, that the deal was only a four to five page document. Sony would loan Spider-Man out for one movie, Captain America: Civil War, and in return, Sony would get Feige’s producing service for two movies. The deal was later revised to include both Avengers: Infinity War and Endgame. “You have to remember, Marvel wasn’t in the same place as it was now. There was a still a question of how far could this ‘superhero thing’ go,” said one insider familiar with the deal.
Disney did not get a producing fee nor did Feige for the initial deal, say multiple insiders. “Just getting Spider-Man in even one of their movies at the time, that was a stem cell infusion for Marvel,” notes a source regarding the company’s willingness to make a deal at the time.
There was also the unique merchandising arrangement. Sony had earlier relinquished the merchandising rights to Disney for a one-time payment of $175 million. Also in the deal, insiders note, was a provision that saw Disney making a yearly royalty payment to Sony that was amounting to around $30 million a year. Sources say that Disney tied the royalty to the performance of the Feige-produced movies; the better the movies performed, the lower the royalty. (It is unclear whether this will change going forward.)
Regardless, the arrangement was groundbreaking. Here was a major studio loaning out one of its top lieutenants to a rival that owned the movie rights of a character it owned in all other respects. And Feige was given carte blanche to run Spider-Man the way he wanted, even as Sony held the purse.
And both reaped in the rewards of the arrangement. Civil War, with key support from the web-slinger, grossed $1.15 billion. Homecoming, the first Feige-made movie, made $880.1 million, even as it featured Marvel’s Iron Man and deepened the intertwining story threads of the two companies’ movies. And Spider-Man was also an emotional foil and fan favorite in the two-part Avengers movies, both of which grossed over $2 billion. In the case of Avengers: Endgame, the movie became the top-money earner of all time. Marvel took a victory lap at Comic-Con, driving fans into a frenzy by teasing new movies. The MCU, with its next phase set, appears nearly unstoppable.
Sony, meanwhile, also forged ahead with renewed commitment to its Spider-Man spinoff. At a retreat, Rothman, who took over from Pascal when the latter was fired amid the Sony email hack, was convinced by two executives to see superhero films as not a fad but as genres within a larger genre, sources say. The result was Venom, a critically scorned movie that nevertheless grossed $856 million. A sequel is now in the works. Also in post-production is Morbius with Jared Leto.
And then there was Phil Lord and Chris Miller's Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse, the animated movie that became one of 2018’s critical darlings and won the best animated movie Oscar. The feeling from Sony was that they bounced back to a place where they could strike on their own. “Tom is thinking ‘Okay, we’ve learned everything we need to from Kevin’s playbook. We did Venom on our own and we did Spider-Verse,'” comments a Sony insider.
Now, insiders at both studios are pointing fingers at one another about counter offers that never happened or offers that were supposedly mighty generous. "The economic terms for that [Spider-Man] franchise seem to have gotten more complicated – partly reflecting Disney’s shifting priorities since the Fox acquisition," says Wall Street analyst Tuna Amobi, of CFRA Research, who isn't surprised by the impasse. "From an economic and creative standpoint, I would think the development probably has more implications either way for Sony."
Rothman will need to deliver Marvel-less fare that lives up to hype of the character's MCU appearances. "If the two sides don’t come to a compromise, it’s a lose-lose for everybody," argues Shawn Robbins, chief analyst for industry website Box Office. "Marvel won’t be able to resolve the cliffhanger in future movies, which is saying something when it’s their most popular hero. And for Sony, who has had success, Far From Home doesn’t get to a billion dollars without Feige and Marvel’s involvement."
Robbins adds, "The other big question is, 'How are fans are going to react to a Tom Holland Spider-Man movie that not set in the MCU?' That is a roll of the dice that no studio should take."
Because there's so much money to be made, the parties could also eventually come back to the table. “It is in the best interests of both sides to have come to an agreement,” notes analyst Steven Birenberg of Northlake Capital Management, which owns shares of Disney. “Spidey is an important part of what Marvel has been doing in the MCU and seemed to be for what they plan to do. Perhaps for the first time since Iron Man and the first few films after there is some uncertainty as to the success of future Marvel films, defining success as the ridiculously high bar that the Avengers has set.”
Feige, meanwhile, does have plenty on his plate, including the sizzle of sequels to Thor and Black Panther and Captain Marvel as well as new chef’s concoctions such as The Eternals and Blade, not to mention a pantry filled with mutants, meaning Fox's X-Men.
Sony’s slate is less diverse and while it is moving ahead with spinoffs and a sequel to Venom, the future of Spider-Man is unclear. Holland is said to have an option for one more movie while director Jon Watts is done with his two-picture deal and is free to pursue other projects. "The big test will be two years or so from now, when an eventual Spider-Man movie is made," says the Sony insider.
#119
DVD Talk Godfather
re: Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021, D: Watts) - S: Tom Holland
except that second amazing spider man movie’s take is what forced the whole Mcu deal to happen, remember after the first one they already talked about a shared universe with avengers towers in the movie .
sony is right to say no change but Disney is forcing sony to realize they’ve had a pretty sweetheart deal
Amazing Spider-man: $760m
Amazing Spider-man 2: $710m
That's not a "sky is falling" scenario where we burn the house down. It's $50m. So that leads to:
Spider-man Homecoming: $880m
Spider-man Far From Home: $1.1m
Sure the MCU involved flicks made more but not worth giving up 50% of the proceeds. So Sony gets to keep 100% of $700+m or get 50% of $1b. It's a pure numbers game. Making $700m is better than making $500m. Pretty basic. It seems like an even worse deal when you factor in Disney/Marvel makes money on Spidey being in the MCU drawing in larger audiences for other films he's in and selling more merch in general. Disney overplayed their hand.
I'm kinda glad someone finally stood up to Disney and didn't just bow down to the Mouse House like everyone else.
#120
DVD Talk Legend
re: Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021, D: Watts) - S: Tom Holland
#121
DVD Talk Godfather & 2020 TOTY Winner
re: Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021, D: Watts) - S: Tom Holland
"The big test will be two years or so from now, when an eventual Spider-Man movie is made," says the Sony insider.
#122
Banned
re: Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021, D: Watts) - S: Tom Holland
These buys weren't a hostile takeover by any means so how different is this from AT&T buying WB with all their assets? I understand some of the hate Disney may get from acquiring all these companies and getting bigger but at least they are delivering a solid product and have plans to continue so for many years to come. What has AT&T/WB done with their assets other than fuck up almost everything they touch? Sony would have purchased the same companies if they had the chance. Just 2 days ago they purchased Insomniac Games. Sony isn't a mom & pop shop. They are the same greedy corporation as Disney is, with the difference that at least Disney knows how to do these comic book films and be successful. The only thing that Sony has done that has impressed me in relation to comic book movies has been Into the Spider-Verse, which I consider one of the best animated movies ever. Other than that, they have fucked up the many chances they had with the properties they acquired for film rights. I don't understand why Sony wants to fuck up something good they have going that is going to make them money short and long term and will help their brand grow.
#123
DVD Talk God
re: Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021, D: Watts) - S: Tom Holland
Sony Pictures "official statement" which came out yesterday
#125
Member
re: Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021, D: Watts) - S: Tom Holland
Perception is everything, and fair or not, Sony is going to be blamed for no more MCU Spidey. And good luck to Sony, I hope they don’t fuck Spidey up, but I’m not holding my breathe.