Gemini Man (2019, D: Ang Lee) S: Will Smith, Mary Elizabeth Winstead, Clive Owen, Benedict Wong
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Re: Gemini Man (2019, D: Ang Lee) S: Will Smith, Mary Elizabeth Winstead, Clive Owen, Benedict Wong
That's too bad. While the trailers had been meh, the Ang Lee part at least had me curious.
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Re: Gemini Man (2019, D: Ang Lee) S: Will Smith, Mary Elizabeth Winstead, Clive Owen, Benedict Wong
The trailer got me interested in who, if any, wins out. Or both or neither. But I was hoping for a good film.
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This movie looks like a hot bag of french cat piss. I wouldn't watch it if you paid me.
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Re: Gemini Man (2019, D: Ang Lee) S: Will Smith, Mary Elizabeth Winstead, Clive Owen, Benedict Wong
This looks terrible. The only thing worse than Will Smith is two Will Smiths.
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Re: Gemini Man (2019, D: Ang Lee) S: Will Smith, Mary Elizabeth Winstead, Clive Owen, Benedict Wong
Pre-sale tickets are up today.
I got one for Sunday the 14th in IMAX. Looks like there aren't any Dolby showings for this. It's either IMAX or IMAX 3D with HFR,
I got one for Sunday the 14th in IMAX. Looks like there aren't any Dolby showings for this. It's either IMAX or IMAX 3D with HFR,
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I have a ticket for this tomorrow but reviews are just terrible...
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Re: Gemini Man (2019, D: Ang Lee) S: Will Smith, Mary Elizabeth Winstead, Clive Owen, Benedict Wong
Too bad, I was actually thinking this looked alright from the trailers. Probably will pass on it until it comes to home media.
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Some friends saw this and said it was mediocre. The did say that if you must see it that the HFR is definitely the way to go.
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Re: Gemini Man (2019, D: Ang Lee) S: Will Smith, Mary Elizabeth Winstead, Clive Owen, Benedict Wong
There's only one cinema in Houston playing it in HFR, but info is conflicting. AMC site says it's 3D 60fps. Collider says it's 3D 120fps.
If it's actually 120, I might go. I own Billy Lynn on 4K and it plays at 60fps. Too bad that movie is terrible in nearly every way.
Edit: AMC on Twitter says that location is the only one doing 120fps. Hell, I might as well go.
If it's actually 120, I might go. I own Billy Lynn on 4K and it plays at 60fps. Too bad that movie is terrible in nearly every way.
Edit: AMC on Twitter says that location is the only one doing 120fps. Hell, I might as well go.
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Re: Gemini Man (2019, D: Ang Lee) S: Will Smith, Mary Elizabeth Winstead, Clive Owen, Benedict Wong
Will probably go see this since it won't likely be replicated at home properly. Anyone know if Regal 4DX showings are also in high frame rate 3D? Common sense would say it would be but you can never tell these days. Can't believe the IMAX is showing this in shitty 2D when it was natively shot in 3D. Just another reason I hardly go to theaters, when it's so hard to make sure you're going to the "right" showing.
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I have zero interest in HFR
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This was a complete fucking bore. Skip it.
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Re: Gemini Man (2019, D: Ang Lee) S: Will Smith, Mary Elizabeth Winstead, Clive Owen, Benedict Wong
I mainly went last night to see what 3D HFR (60fps for the theater I went to) looked like. To be honest, it felt like I was watching a picture from an uncalibrated TV where the default sharpness & brightness levels were cranked up to max.
Several scenes seem to play toward the technology of trying to “be there” with long closeups of talking. I have to wonder what this looks like in regular 2D viewings where people are just staring at a massive closeup that feels held too long.
Plot was very by the numbers and the script/dialogue was meh/lazy. The premise is interesting, but every thing else felt flat. The main characters don’t seem like they’re worried about anything, so that’s a palpable lack of tension to the whole movie.
a few positives:
- I haven’t really watched Will Smith in something for awhile, and I realized I like his presence. Wish he was in something better.
- the totally computer generated young Will Smith was well done. There were a scene here or there where that uncanny valley hit, but it was well done more often than not
- Liked Mary Elizabeth Winstead in this
- Action scenes were short but I liked them overall. Unfortunately, a lot of the hand to hand were generally filmed in closeups.
Several scenes seem to play toward the technology of trying to “be there” with long closeups of talking. I have to wonder what this looks like in regular 2D viewings where people are just staring at a massive closeup that feels held too long.
Plot was very by the numbers and the script/dialogue was meh/lazy. The premise is interesting, but every thing else felt flat. The main characters don’t seem like they’re worried about anything, so that’s a palpable lack of tension to the whole movie.
a few positives:
- I haven’t really watched Will Smith in something for awhile, and I realized I like his presence. Wish he was in something better.
- the totally computer generated young Will Smith was well done. There were a scene here or there where that uncanny valley hit, but it was well done more often than not
- Liked Mary Elizabeth Winstead in this
- Action scenes were short but I liked them overall. Unfortunately, a lot of the hand to hand were generally filmed in closeups.
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Re: Gemini Man (2019, D: Ang Lee) S: Will Smith, Mary Elizabeth Winstead, Clive Owen, Benedict Wong
Haven't a clue why David Benioff and Billy Ray agreed to keep their names on this thing--the script is terribly weak. If you've watched the trailer, you know the important parts of the story, and you can probably guess how things turn out. If you can't guess how this film ends but have seen
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This movie has some pretty hilarious action movie logic:
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I'm pretty positive it was. Why else would they have focused on him?
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Re: Gemini Man (2019, D: Ang Lee) S: Will Smith, Mary Elizabeth Winstead, Clive Owen, Benedict Wong
Regal's website actually lists the 4DX showings as 2D, though that may be likely due to the technical limitations of the equipment as not everything can show high frame rate. That's likely why IMAX is only showing 2D also. They still ought to reduce the name 4DX by at least one D though. Another place is showing it with D-Box and high frame rate 3D so will see it there, probably during the week after it's already been declared a hit or a bomb.
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Well... we’ll agree to disagree I guess. Debating this shitty movie isn’t anything I want to do. I’ll forget it all by tomorrow.
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^Fair enough. I'm hoping that the guy I saw shows up in a better movie.
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Re: Gemini Man (2019, D: Ang Lee) S: Will Smith, Mary Elizabeth Winstead, Clive Owen, Benedict Wong
That was all around horrible. Story. Acting, Directing. Effects...
My PS4 Pro renders people better than this movie.
This movie would’ve been better suited as an entirely 3D Animated venture.
My PS4 Pro renders people better than this movie.
This movie would’ve been better suited as an entirely 3D Animated venture.
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Re: Gemini Man (2019, D: Ang Lee) S: Will Smith, Mary Elizabeth Winstead, Clive Owen, Benedict Wong
Saw this yesterday.
Dolby Cinema 3D 2K 120fps.
There ARE things I liked about it. Winstead was without a doubt the highlight of the film. As was the motorbike chase. Everyone else in this was just... bad. Even Clive Owen, and I think that dude is great.
The HFR was great in some shots but wasted overall. The problem is the terrible cinematography (sorry to whoever has that credit). FAR too many shots where everything is in focus, making it look like a b-roll reel for whatever location they’re in. Possibly worse were the shots where the characters are in focus in the foreground, and the background is extremely out of focus, creating that weird “actors in front of a green screen” look.
I really do think 120fps HFR could work... in more capable hands. The motorbike chase was a brief example, IMO (until the awkward fight, anyway). I think I said this in The Hobbit thread too, but the art of cinematography needs to adjust for HFR when used, the same way it has adjusted for digital.
Anyway, the film itself was kind of a bore. I wouldn’t recommend it for any reason beyond seeing it in 120fps if possible.
Oh and
Dolby Cinema 3D 2K 120fps.
There ARE things I liked about it. Winstead was without a doubt the highlight of the film. As was the motorbike chase. Everyone else in this was just... bad. Even Clive Owen, and I think that dude is great.
The HFR was great in some shots but wasted overall. The problem is the terrible cinematography (sorry to whoever has that credit). FAR too many shots where everything is in focus, making it look like a b-roll reel for whatever location they’re in. Possibly worse were the shots where the characters are in focus in the foreground, and the background is extremely out of focus, creating that weird “actors in front of a green screen” look.
I really do think 120fps HFR could work... in more capable hands. The motorbike chase was a brief example, IMO (until the awkward fight, anyway). I think I said this in The Hobbit thread too, but the art of cinematography needs to adjust for HFR when used, the same way it has adjusted for digital.
Anyway, the film itself was kind of a bore. I wouldn’t recommend it for any reason beyond seeing it in 120fps if possible.
Oh and
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