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Brack 12-20-18 12:33 PM

Re: worst degradation in quality from original to sequel
 
Cocoon to Cocoon:The Return. The sequel makes a joke out of the original film’s poignant ending.

Decker 12-20-18 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by stvn1974 (Post 13465564)
Batman Begins to The Dark Knight. We go from a good Batman origin story based on the comic books to a low rent Heat rip off.

And there it is!

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fumanstan 12-20-18 12:40 PM

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:lol:

PatD 12-20-18 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jpcamb (Post 13465525)
Blues Brothers 2000, although in fairness I absolutely refuse to watch it.

Surprised nobody has tried to pull the latest SW Trilogy into this.... ;)

Blues Brothers 2000 is GARBAGE. Yes, this might be the winner of this thread. It's an abominable mess, I was appalled when I first saw it in theaters. All the hip humor, heart and good music of the original is replaced with Aykroyd-Gone-Wild.

Geddlo 12-20-18 02:10 PM

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American Psycho 2

rexinnih 12-20-18 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by fujishig (Post 13465291)
Highlander to Highlander 2. Threw away all the good parts and made it a sci fi story that recycled the story of the original anyway.

This is what popped into my mind first.

Giantrobo 12-20-18 02:42 PM

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How the fuck does IRON MAN -> IRON III not get mentioned til page 3?

Daytripper 12-20-18 02:44 PM

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First films that came to mind were "Poltergeist II", "The Sting II", "Caddyshack 2" and "European Vacation". I'm also siding with those who said "Grease 2" is a fun film. Sure, the songs weren't as catchy as the original. But production-wise, it's a far superior film. And as much as I like "Aliens", I thought it's production value looked cheap (compared to "Alien). To me, it looked like it was made on a shoe string budget. And it probably cost more (I don't know).

Giantrobo 12-20-18 02:48 PM

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Gojira 54—> almost all Toho G-flims that followed starting with a particularly harsh fall off the high edge with the 2nd film that was the garbage called Godzilla Raids again

PatD 12-20-18 02:52 PM

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Why the fuck are people ripping on Aliens? It's not like the characters in Alien were particularly deep ("right.") And the production values were top notch for the time.

Besides, comparing Alien to Aliens is like comparing Halloween (1978) to Die Hard: they're two different genres.

Giantrobo 12-20-18 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by PatD (Post 13465753)
Why the fuck are people ripping on Aliens? It's not like the characters in Alien were particularly deep ("right.") And the production values were top notch for the time.

Because Groucho did and made a funny when he did it. It started a stroke fest. :lol: I think all that "busy strokin'" is why the IRON MAN franchise didn't get mentioned till page 3. jus sayin...

Ash Ketchum 12-20-18 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Giantrobo (Post 13465748)
Gojira 54—> almost all Toho G-flims that followed starting with a particularly harsh fall off the high edge with the 2nd film that was the garbage called Godzilla Raids again

How dare you?!

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fiver 12-20-18 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonic (Post 13465354)
Matrix > Matrix Reloaded
Superman II > Superman Returns
The Never ending Story > The Never ending Story II
Predator > Predator II



Amen. :thumbsup:

I know this is probably a very minority opinion...but Superman III to Superman IV was simply aweful. Sure, SIII is considered inferior to SI and II, but it does have some good parts to it - it was one of the earliest films I remember watching in the theater - was terrified for years at some of the ending scenes. But, nothing and I mean nothing could prepare me for seeing SIV in the theater as a kid. I couldn't understand at the time how any movie of Superman's stature could be gone from theaters within a week. I do watch it when I decide to do a Superman marathon and I feel sick every single time. Compared to it, Superman Returns at least had production values ;)

fiver 12-20-18 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by inri222 (Post 13465342)
The Two Jakes
The Crow: City of Angels
The Sting 2
Staying Alive
Blues Brothers 2000
The Lost World
RoboCop 2
Blair Witch 2
The Matrix Reloaded

The Crow City of Angels ranks up there as one of the most jaw-droppingly aweful cinema experiences I've ever had whereas The Crow is one of the best. It deserves to be reviled and, hopefully, never mentioned again ;/

Giantrobo 12-20-18 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Ash Ketchum (Post 13465771)
How dare you?!

That's why I said "almost"... But even those compared to G54...well, they don't.

PatD 12-20-18 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by fiver (Post 13465774)
I know this is probably a very minority opinion...but Superman III to Superman IV was simply aweful. Sure, SIII is considered inferior to SI and II, but it does have some good parts to it - it was one of the earliest films I remember watching in the theater - was terrified for years at some of the ending scenes. But, nothing and I mean nothing could prepare me for seeing SIV in the theater as a kid. I couldn't understand at the time how any movie of Superman's stature could be gone from theaters within a week. I do watch it when I decide to do a Superman marathon and I feel sick every single time. Compared to it, Superman Returns at least had production values ;)

Superman III is where everything went wrong. It went from a relatively serious-minded epic to a mindless farce featuring Richard Pryor acting like an uncomfortable Don Knotts. What were they thinking? As for IV, let me put it to you like this: what's worse: shitting the bed by accident (IV) or on purpose (III)?

Daytripper 12-20-18 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by PatD (Post 13465753)
Why the fuck are people ripping on Aliens? It's not like the characters in Alien were particularly deep ("right.") And the production values were top notch for the time.

Besides, comparing Alien to Aliens is like comparing Halloween (1978) to Die Hard: they're two different genres.

Geez, calm your tits. No one is ripping on "Aliens". I thought we were talking about quality here, not character development or genres. And you want to compare production values, put "Alien" next to "Aliens". It's 7 years older and looks 10 x better. "Aliens" is still an exciting follow-up.

rw2516 12-20-18 03:45 PM

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Piranha>Piranha II: The Spawning
Hills Have Eyes (1977)>Hills Have Eyes 2
Magnificent 7> whichever crappy sequel was next
Harper>The Drowning Pool
White Lightning>Gator

Decker 12-20-18 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Giantrobo (Post 13465742)
How the fuck does IRON MAN -> IRON III not get mentioned til page 3?

Um, because there's another movie between them? :hscratch:

Kinda the same reason nobody has said Jaws -> Jaws 3D or Star Wars -> The Phantom Menace.

Boondock Saint 12-20-18 03:49 PM

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Teen Wolf Too

PatD 12-20-18 03:53 PM

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Harold and Kumar Go to White Castle --> Harold and Kumar Escape from Guantanimo Bay

The first film is a fun, good natured romp the second is completely nasty and charmless.

Decker 12-20-18 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by PatD (Post 13465373)
American Graffiti --> More American Graffiti

Few falls from greatness in cinema were as far as this one. While the original is a classic that features interconnected stories that are meaningful, MAG features 4 rotating stories (in distractingly different aspect ratios) that are wholly pointless. If AG is a delicious strawberry milkshake, this one was a soggy 3-day old, roast beef sandwich. This was the biggest cash grab of a sequel that wasn't directed-to-video or a horror movie.

:shrug: I liked More American Graffiti. Obviously it's a totally inferior sequel but I enjoyed spending some more time with these characters and my 13-year old self, way before Pulp Fiction, Resovoir Dogs (or yet having seen Rashomon) appreciated the non-linear storytelling of several interwoven stories told simultaneously.

Daytripper 12-20-18 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Decker (Post 13465804)
:shrug: I liked More American Graffiti. Obviously it's a totally inferior sequel but I enjoyed spending some more time with these characters and my 13-year old self, way before Pulp Fiction, Resovoir Dogs (or yet having seen Rashomon) appreciated the non-linear storytelling of several interwoven stories told simultaneously.

I need to watch that again because I love the original. Tried once in the mid-80's and turned it off.

rw2516 12-20-18 04:38 PM

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Poseidon Adventure>Beyond The PoseidonAdventure
Walking Tall(1973)>Walking Tall 2
True Grit>Rooster Cogburn and The Lady
Macon County Line>Return to Macon County

Giantrobo 12-20-18 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Decker (Post 13465795)
Um, because there's another movie between them? :hscratch:

Kinda the same reason nobody has said Jaws -> Jaws 3D or Star Wars -> The Phantom Menace.

Uhm...clearly I'm talking about all 3 in terms of going downhill. IM1"best", IM2"not as good as 1", down to IM3"worst of the 3". It's not that hard to figure out...


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