fumanstan

I always thought of musicals as the movies where people break out in song/dance and basically sing the plot and dialog, like the recent The Greatest Showman, La La Land, or Les Mis. That's why I also never really considered A Star Is Born a musical, since the majority of the music is within the context of the actors performing on stage as part of the plot.

Sounds like there's precedence otherwise, and it makes sense, so i'm fine either way

Perkinsun Dzees

No nomination for Toni Collette for Hereditary? That sucks. Probably means she won't get any Oscar love now.

Groucho

In terms of movies with diegetic music (A Star Is Born, Bohemian Rhapsody), I agree that these should be considered musicals.

inri222

Joaquin Phoenix and Ethan Hawke gave what could be their best acting performances ever and weren't nominated. Oh well.

Didn't really like Hereditary (at least the second half), but I thought Toni Collette was great in it. Too bad she didn't get any love either.

Decker

The final 20 minutes of that film uses music almost exclusively to further the plot.

Decker

Yup. Another example is Jersey Boys. Almost every song performed is in the context of The Four Seasons actually performing or recording the actual, pre-existing song. But it's an adaptation of a stage musical and you won't find any description of the movie that doesn't describe it as a musical.

Groucho

Not to mention that earlier songs in the film were used out of chronological order in order to better thematically fit the story.

Mabuse

This thread is starting to come to its senses. There was WAY too much pigeonholing of musicals there for a while.

TomOpus

The last 20 was a recreation of their Live Aid performance.

I guess some don't understand the difference. If they broke out in a song about doing Live Aid, that's a musical.

TomOpus

Then Forrest Gump would be a musical.

Decker

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+the+plo...an+rhapsody%3F

melasnus

Good to see the G.G. are making the appropriate politically correct choices...

Mabuse

No Forrest Gump has what is often called a “juke box soundtrack”. Like Goodfellas, Casino, and American Graffiti.

Bohemian Rhapsody (I presume) has diagetic music where actors (seemingly) perform music in a scene as if it were live.

Take the movie The Doors. Sometimes there’s diagetic music. You see the band playing a song on stage at the Whisky. Other times there is non-diagetic music. Like when early in the film he meets the pretty girl and the song Love Street is heard even though that song wouldn’t be recorded for several more years.

AaronHernandez

Lol

GG typically put Music Biopic's in Comedy/Musical category but that doesn't mean that they are. I wouldn't nominate ASIB or Bohemian but at least they are in an appropriately placed category.

AaronHernandez

Every year 1 or 2 of the Oscar nominated females is a middle aged actress who didn't get a GG nod. She fits the bill to a tee of Oscar nommed vet who didn't get a GG nom in favor of a more famous name,that said the GG miss probably kills her Oscar win chances.

johnnysd

That has to be one of the dullest list of award nomineed movies ever. Not a great year for movies, 2018

Ash Ketchum

YANKEE DOODLE DANDY (1942) is considered one of the greatest movie musicals ever--and every song is performed on stage as part of a show-within-the-movie. Once upon a time, most movie musicals were like that: 42ND STREET, GOLD DIGGERS OF 1933, FOOTLIGHT PARADE, the BROADWAY MELODY films, etc. Every song was either a rehearsal or a performance on stage.

Mabuse

Sorry, that makes way too much sense. Understand, if you will, that I have an opinion based on feelings about things.

Hazel Motes

Hmm, I thought "The Mule" would get some nom's.

Defiant1

Maybe they haven't seen it. American Sniper got 0 GG nominations but ended up with 6 Oscar nominations.

Why So Blu?

It's been a great year for film, they just didn't nominate a lot of better films.

dex14

Golden Globes: Jeff Bridges to Receive Cecil B. DeMille Award
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ne...UQZ_G-Jv4vD51o

dex14

Ceremony airs tonight.

fumanstan

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OldBoy