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The 76th Annual Golden Globe Awards -- Movie Edition

Old 12-06-18, 02:27 PM
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I always thought of musicals as the movies where people break out in song/dance and basically sing the plot and dialog, like the recent The Greatest Showman, La La Land, or Les Mis. That's why I also never really considered A Star Is Born a musical, since the majority of the music is within the context of the actors performing on stage as part of the plot.

Sounds like there's precedence otherwise, and it makes sense, so i'm fine either way
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Old 12-06-18, 02:30 PM
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No nomination for Toni Collette for Hereditary? That sucks. Probably means she won't get any Oscar love now.
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Re: The 76th Annual Golden Globe Awards -- Movie Edition

In terms of movies with diegetic music (A Star Is Born, Bohemian Rhapsody), I agree that these should be considered musicals.
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Joaquin Phoenix and Ethan Hawke gave what could be their best acting performances ever and weren't nominated. Oh well.

Didn't really like Hereditary (at least the second half), but I thought Toni Collette was great in it. Too bad she didn't get any love either.
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Re: The 76th Annual Golden Globe Awards -- Movie Edition

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Which song in Bohemian Rhapsody was sung and used IN ADDITION to dialogue to further the plot? They sang existing songs. Was there a song about creating the group? Freddie out on a date?
The final 20 minutes of that film uses music almost exclusively to further the plot.
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Originally Posted by Mabuse View Post
Cabaret and A Star is Born are exactly the same. Both films are about musicians and the music is integrated into the film by the musicians performing on stage. Both are musicals.
Yup. Another example is Jersey Boys. Almost every song performed is in the context of The Four Seasons actually performing or recording the actual, pre-existing song. But it's an adaptation of a stage musical and you won't find any description of the movie that doesn't describe it as a musical.
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The final 20 minutes of that film uses music almost exclusively to further the plot.
Not to mention that earlier songs in the film were used out of chronological order in order to better thematically fit the story.

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This thread is starting to come to its senses. There was WAY too much pigeonholing of musicals there for a while.
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The final 20 minutes of that film uses music almost exclusively to further the plot.
The last 20 was a recreation of their Live Aid performance.

I guess some don't understand the difference. If they broke out in a song about doing Live Aid, that's a musical.
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Not to mention that earlier songs in the film were used out of chronological order in order to better thematically fit the story.
Then Forrest Gump would be a musical.
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The last 20 was a recreation of their Live Aid performance.

I guess some don't understand the difference. If they broke out in a song about doing Live Aid, that's a musical.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+the+plo...an+rhapsody%3F
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Old 12-06-18, 04:19 PM
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Good to see the G.G. are making the appropriate politically correct choices...
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Old 12-06-18, 05:22 PM
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Then Forrest Gump would be a musical.
No Forrest Gump has what is often called a “juke box soundtrack”. Like Goodfellas, Casino, and American Graffiti.

Bohemian Rhapsody (I presume) has diagetic music where actors (seemingly) perform music in a scene as if it were live.

Take the movie The Doors. Sometimes there’s diagetic music. You see the band playing a song on stage at the Whisky. Other times there is non-diagetic music. Like when early in the film he meets the pretty girl and the song Love Street is heard even though that song wouldn’t be recorded for several more years.
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Tell that to Barbra Streisand, Reese Witherspoon, Marion Cotillard, Angela Bassett, Bette Midler, Jamie Foxx, Joaquin Phoenix and Kris Kristopherson who all won Best Actor or Best Actress in a Musical or Comedy for performances that apparently weren't in Musicals?
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GG typically put Music Biopic's in Comedy/Musical category but that doesn't mean that they are. I wouldn't nominate ASIB or Bohemian but at least they are in an appropriately placed category.
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Originally Posted by Perkinsun Dzees View Post
No nomination for Toni Collette for Hereditary? That sucks. Probably means she won't get any Oscar love now.
Every year 1 or 2 of the Oscar nominated females is a middle aged actress who didn't get a GG nod. She fits the bill to a tee of Oscar nommed vet who didn't get a GG nom in favor of a more famous name,that said the GG miss probably kills her Oscar win chances.
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Old 12-06-18, 05:29 PM
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That has to be one of the dullest list of award nomineed movies ever. Not a great year for movies, 2018
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YANKEE DOODLE DANDY (1942) is considered one of the greatest movie musicals ever--and every song is performed on stage as part of a show-within-the-movie. Once upon a time, most movie musicals were like that: 42ND STREET, GOLD DIGGERS OF 1933, FOOTLIGHT PARADE, the BROADWAY MELODY films, etc. Every song was either a rehearsal or a performance on stage.
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YANKEE DOODLE DANDY (1942) is considered one of the greatest movie musicals ever--and every song is performed on stage as part of a show-within-the-movie. Once upon a time, most movie musicals were like that: 42ND STREET, GOLD DIGGERS OF 1933, FOOTLIGHT PARADE, the BROADWAY MELODY films, etc. Every song was either a rehearsal or a performance on stage.
Sorry, that makes way too much sense. Understand, if you will, that I have an opinion based on feelings about things.

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Hmm, I thought "The Mule" would get some nom's.
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Hmm, I thought "The Mule" would get some nom's.
Maybe they haven't seen it. American Sniper got 0 GG nominations but ended up with 6 Oscar nominations.
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That has to be one of the dullest list of award nomineed movies ever. Not a great year for movies, 2018
It's been a great year for film, they just didn't nominate a lot of better films.
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Golden Globes: Jeff Bridges to Receive Cecil B. DeMille Award
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I said it would win Oscar and this seals it. Disney will be dethroned.

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