Snake Eyes: G.I. Joe Origins (2021, D: Schwentke)
#76
DVD Talk God
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Big budget theatrical movies need stars to make money. Unfortunately, this and "Old" don't have any major or known stars to sell to the public.
and like a few have said, it's probably didn't help that the GI Joe IP hasn't been relevant in years.
and like a few have said, it's probably didn't help that the GI Joe IP hasn't been relevant in years.
#77
DVD Talk Hero
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Again, let’s not discount how people really don’t seem to be champing at the bit to get back to the theater.
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#79
Re: Snake Eyes: G.I. Joe Origins (2021, D: Schwentke)
Next step is to start putting the Joes into the Transformers movies.
#80
DVD Talk Legend
#81
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This was making news over the weekend. According to Di Bonventura: “You know, the truth of matter is, the studio has always been against that. Every regime that’s been at Paramount is against it because it’s taking two franchises and making them one, but I think it’s inevitable.”
#82
DVD Talk Hero
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I never really liked a cohesive universe, because it becomes really hard to separate. Say they started with Duke in a Transformers movie then tried to do a GI Joe movie, everyone would be wondering what happened to the Transformers and their technology? It's a cool elseworlds concept but not much else.
Now Joe and M.A.S.K., now you're talking.
Now Joe and M.A.S.K., now you're talking.
#83
DVD Talk Legend & 2021 TOTY Winner
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That's really unfortunate. I mean, box office receipts are down overall but still, that is pretty low. I will say this, it took a lot for me to decide to go back to the theater for this, but I am a huge G.I. Joe fan and I wanted to see this. But even I went back and forth on if I felt ready. There were many things to consider, and in the end I felt safe when I went.
Now I know.
Now I know.
#84
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I am a GI Joe fan, and I am glad Hasbro is finally trying to do things with the IP (new toy lines, allegedly new cartoon next year) but I had no desire to see this (at least in theaters).
I am probably in the minority that dislikes all the ninja stuff in GI Joe so it was an easy pass for me. I do think all the lack of house hold names is fair criticism for the movie I wish another studio had the rights to this as all the movies have been lackluster
I am probably in the minority that dislikes all the ninja stuff in GI Joe so it was an easy pass for me. I do think all the lack of house hold names is fair criticism for the movie I wish another studio had the rights to this as all the movies have been lackluster
#85
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#87
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And here comes the write ups:
Why ‘Snake Eyes’ Missed Its Mark at the Box Office — and What It Means for the ‘G.I. Joe’ Franchise
https://variety.com/2021/film/news/s...es-1235026986/
Why ‘Snake Eyes’ Missed Its Mark at the Box Office — and What It Means for the ‘G.I. Joe’ Franchise
https://variety.com/2021/film/news/s...es-1235026986/
#88
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#89
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Snake Eyes: G.I. Joe Origins (2021, D: Schwentke)
Home Release of Snake Eyes: G.I. Joe Origins is expected to on September 6th, 2021
#90
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Snake Eyes: G.I. Joe Origins (2021, D: Schwentke)
I kind of hoped this would be a surprise and be good. The trailers looked solid. I’ll either wait for it to hit streaming or maybe blind buy it. I sort of like the other two G.I. Joe movies too even though I know they’re not that great so maybe I would still enjoy this too.
#91
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I kind of hoped this would be a surprise and be good. The trailers looked solid. I’ll either wait for it to hit streaming or maybe blind buy it. I sort of like the other two G.I. Joe movies too even though I know they’re not that great so maybe I would still enjoy this too.
#92
DVD Talk Special Edition
Re: Snake Eyes: G.I. Joe Origins (2021, D: Schwentke)
I'm kind of surprised at how forgiving you guys are with shaky cam fights. I guess I've been spoiled by the Steadicam action in the John Wick movies and Nobody...as well as all those kung fu flicks from the '70s.
I went to go see this because I'm just enough of a G.I. Joe fan to be interested. I knew going in we weren't going to get the cartoon version of Snake Eyes, so his being maskless and speaking for the entire film didn't bother me. What I did take issue with is that he gains access to the Arashikage clan but spends all his time learning philosophy and discipline. When it comes time to show off some ninja skills, he simply does it. In fact, he does it so well he's able to outfox the Arashikage guards who are presumably actual trained ninjas.
So basically, Snake Eyes is already a ninjitsu expert before he sets foot on Arashikage grounds, and the film just plays that close to its chest, so we don't get any indication of his skills until he dons the ninja outfit. If I want to be generous, I would guess that the filmmakers wanted to leave his training in ninjitsu for a sequel. However, my gut tells me either those scenes were left on the cutting room floor or worse yet it's simply an oversight on the part of the writers who were focused on other things they wanted to cover.
I also thought there was some rather poor storytelling in the final half hour.
This movie was two hours long, which means the filmmakers had plenty of time to set up the character turns and their split. Instead, it feels like it was something that the writers had forgotten about and realized at the last minute they needed to move the pieces to the right squares before the credits rolled and seriously rushed to do so.
This film wasn't terrible, but it was definitely disappointing. At least the screening I attended only had three people (myself included) so there were no issues with noise, people stepping over me, or my seeing some jackass's phone light up. Of course, theatrical exhibition would be in deep trouble if every show had an audience of three.
I went to go see this because I'm just enough of a G.I. Joe fan to be interested. I knew going in we weren't going to get the cartoon version of Snake Eyes, so his being maskless and speaking for the entire film didn't bother me. What I did take issue with is that he gains access to the Arashikage clan but spends all his time learning philosophy and discipline. When it comes time to show off some ninja skills, he simply does it. In fact, he does it so well he's able to outfox the Arashikage guards who are presumably actual trained ninjas.
So basically, Snake Eyes is already a ninjitsu expert before he sets foot on Arashikage grounds, and the film just plays that close to its chest, so we don't get any indication of his skills until he dons the ninja outfit. If I want to be generous, I would guess that the filmmakers wanted to leave his training in ninjitsu for a sequel. However, my gut tells me either those scenes were left on the cutting room floor or worse yet it's simply an oversight on the part of the writers who were focused on other things they wanted to cover.
I also thought there was some rather poor storytelling in the final half hour.
Spoiler:
This movie was two hours long, which means the filmmakers had plenty of time to set up the character turns and their split. Instead, it feels like it was something that the writers had forgotten about and realized at the last minute they needed to move the pieces to the right squares before the credits rolled and seriously rushed to do so.
This film wasn't terrible, but it was definitely disappointing. At least the screening I attended only had three people (myself included) so there were no issues with noise, people stepping over me, or my seeing some jackass's phone light up. Of course, theatrical exhibition would be in deep trouble if every show had an audience of three.
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#93
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#94
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Snake Eyes: G.I. Joe Origins (2021, D: Schwentke)
Yeah the shaky came was horrible and unexpected after they bragged so much about how great the fight scenes were.
#95
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Snake Eyes: G.I. Joe Origins (2021, D: Schwentke)
I had $8 in Fandango Credit from buying one of the 4K BDs of the previous G.I. Joe films, so I went and saw this earlier today.
The film looks good but Henry Golding's performance as Snake Eyes was surprisingly flat & uncharismatic.
Also for a film about the origins of Snake Eyes, I found myself more interested in every scene that Andrew Koji (Tommy/Storm Shadow) was in, rather than the main character himself.
I appreciated the inclusion of Samara Weaving as Scarlett & Ursula Corbero as Baroness but there's not enough of either of them in the film to care much.
Iko Uwais was wasted in this film but I'm always happy to see him getting work outside Indonesia.
All the fight choreography is also wasted here because the shaky cam cinematography is absolutely obnoxious in this.
If it was done in anyway like the Image/Devil's Due Comics, I would be definitely be up for that, mainly for how nutty it is.
Give me Serpentor Prime!
The film looks good but Henry Golding's performance as Snake Eyes was surprisingly flat & uncharismatic.
Also for a film about the origins of Snake Eyes, I found myself more interested in every scene that Andrew Koji (Tommy/Storm Shadow) was in, rather than the main character himself.
I appreciated the inclusion of Samara Weaving as Scarlett & Ursula Corbero as Baroness but there's not enough of either of them in the film to care much.
Iko Uwais was wasted in this film but I'm always happy to see him getting work outside Indonesia.
All the fight choreography is also wasted here because the shaky cam cinematography is absolutely obnoxious in this.
If it was done in anyway like the Image/Devil's Due Comics, I would be definitely be up for that, mainly for how nutty it is.
Give me Serpentor Prime!
#96
Re: Snake Eyes: G.I. Joe Origins (2021, D: Schwentke)
This will be up on PVOD starting tomorrow.
#97
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#98
Moderator
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It's not a bad film... just not inline with the actual story from the comic.
... now if it would have had a Brendan Fraser cameo... well, that would be a different story.
#99
DVD Talk Hero
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Paid $20 VOD.
Very well done. A movie that’s very competent but didn’t really grab my emotions. It’s pretty easy for a movie to make me well up a little. This one got nothing.
Very well done. A movie that’s very competent but didn’t really grab my emotions. It’s pretty easy for a movie to make me well up a little. This one got nothing.
#100
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Enjoyed this one too... Shame the G.I. Joe franchise never seems to really do well or at least don't really get talked about much.