Originally Posted by rennervision

Yeah - I'm sure everyone is thrilled about an off-screen death for Leia. We see Han's death and Luke's death. But Leia? Her's happens off-screen inbetween movies.

Originally Posted by kefrank

Well, it's possible to hold to my interpretation without giving Ren any credit at all. Snoke revealed that he was responsible for the Rey and Ren "force skype calls" and their respective visions while connected. It certainly seems possible Snoke manipulated Ren to see exactly what he said, for the purpose of Snoke having various chips he could play to manipulate Rey and or Ren further as needed. Ren may have been using what he thought was truth to manipulate Rey - but the circumstances surrounding it still cast doubt on whether it's true (or at least fully true).

Originally Posted by tanman

Again. WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE THEM DO? You know Carrie is dead right? You want them to reanimate her corpse so she can do a scene and tie it up nicely just for you?

Originally Posted by DVD Josh

Interesting thought. I do hate what they did with snoke. Looked like an unfinished cgi room.

Originally Posted by fumanstan

I don't really get THE CAPITAL LETTERS FOR EMPHASIS, I think this discussion traced back to the disappointment that they didn't shift some scenes around in this movie given Carrie's death, as there was plenty of opportunity to make Leia's death meaningful while they still had a chance and not leave her character's fate in limbo.

Originally Posted by Mike86

I think it would have been a bit in bad taste to kill her off in this film. She obviously was supposed to have a decent role and to kill her off when it was kind of a moment for her to shine in the Sequel Trilogy and especially with her death being fairly recent I can see why they didn’t go that route.

They obviously are in a tough spot with what to do with her character going forward. Hop they have a bit of footage they can somehow work into the next film and will be able to tastefully write her off. She can either just ride off into the sunset when the Resistance presumably is victorious in Episode IX or by that time enough time will have passed where she could die somehow.

Originally Posted by joe_b

I find it hilarious that those massive Resistance casualties in the final act could have been avoided had Finn simply not illegally parked on a beach. Nice going, Big Deal!

Originally Posted by fumanstan

Maybe it's just me, but I wouldn't see any bad taste in something like that, nor take away from any moments she had in the movie. If anything, her floating back from space felt weird enough as it is given her real life death

Originally Posted by JTH182

Yep, none of the previous 7 movies ended on a shot of a character we don't even know.

It felt too "Disney."

Originally Posted by Mike86

I think Driver gets more shit than he deserves. He’s done well as the conflicted villain and I think the final entry will really solidify his character. He’s far more what I had in mind for how Anakin should have evolved into Vader than we than we got.

Originally Posted by csant

Luke and Rey scene, talk about underwhelming. lol

Originally Posted by stvn1974

The next film will start with the little kid grabbing the broom and doing a Gene Kelly dance number with it.

Originally Posted by joe_b

It makes me wish that after the dramatic stare off and sweeping helicopter shot, they actually ended TFA by cutting to Luke tossing the saber over his shoulder and Rey looking perplexed for a few seconds. I wonder what the Rotten Tomatoes score would have been with THAT ending.

Originally Posted by rocket1312

Here's where you and I agree. I think Kylo Ren is by far the most interesting thing about these new movies. The moment when he and Rey teamed up was the highlight of TLJ, not only because it was a great action scene, but also because I had no idea where they were going with it all. The entire preconceived arc of the trilogy was about to be turned upside down. That WOULD have been different and interesting. Instead it all just got reset within 10 minutes. Still not sure how Rey got off that ship...

Originally Posted by tanman

I guess I can understand why people are confused by this scene but at the same time I can't. She isn't flying through space. There is no gravity in space. How many times have we seen astronauts manipulating heavy objects in space with very little effort and how many times have we seen force users using telekinesis to move boulders or light swords or even ships. It won't take much effort to move yourself through space so she didn't suddenly become super man. The issues I do take is how the entire scene played out which I totally blame Rian for. The way it was put on film was terrible because it just looked utterly ridiculous. I think they were trying to make her look graceful or powerful but it ended up being huge but of unintentional comedy. I like the idea of the scene because we finally see her using a little bit of the force. I think if he filmed it in a more subtle manner it would have played a lot better. Like make the scene a lot faster maybe her losing consciousness after she realizes what's happening and extending her hand towards the door to better communicate what she's trying to do. It was just extremely poorly executed.

Originally Posted by bunkaroo

Exactly how I felt at that moment. After the questionable stuff leading up to that I really thought we had something...aaaaaand.....it's gone.