Originally Posted by ViewAskewbian

‘I refused:’ James Cameron says his Arnold Schwarzenegger demand was ‘problem’ with Terminator 6 (msn.com)

Cutting to the chase:The filmmaker said he thinks he knows why the film didn’t work, and it came down to a demand he made about Arnold Schwarzenegger.

“I think the problem, and I’m going to wear this one, is that I refused to do it without Arnold,” Cameron admitted to Deadline. “Tim didn’t want Arnold, but I said, ‘Look, I don’t want that. Arnold and I have been friends for 40 years, and I could hear it, and it would go like this: ‘Jim, I can’t believe you’re making a Terminator movie without me.’”

He continued: “It just didn’t mean that much to me to do it, but I said, ‘If you guys could see your way clear to bringing Arnold back and then, you know, I’d be happy to be involved.’

Adding fuel to the fire, Cameron believes, is that Miller then wanted Linda Hamilton, who played Sarah Connor.

“I think what happened is I think the movie could have survived having Linda in it. I think it could have survived having Arnold in it. But when you put Linda and Arnold in it and then, you know, she’s 60-something, he’s 70-something, all of a sudden it wasn’t your Terminator movie. It wasn’t even your dad’s Terminator movie – it was your granddad’s Terminator movie,” he said, adding: “And we didn’t see that.”

Cameron said: “We loved it, we thought it was cool, you know, that we were making this sort of direct sequel to a movie that came out in 1991. So, it was just our own myopia. We kind of got a little high on our own supply, and I think that’s the lesson there.”

Originally Posted by Josh-da-man

The problem with the Terminator franchise is that it is, by design, a closed loop.

I think that The Terminator would have been perfect for a trilogy. The first movie would be the original movie from 1984. The second would have started the machine war, and the third would have had John Connor ending it. Closed loop.

But they just kept rehashing the same basic plot formula over and over again -- send someone/something back in time to prevent/insure a future apocalypse. It's the slasher movie formula, where Michael Myers and Jason Vorhees just keep coming back to slice and dice more teenagers. Five Terminator sequels, and they just never go anywhere.

Originally Posted by Why So Blu?

I enjoyed Dark Fate a lot. I do wish they had kept the television series going -- that had the best exposition and narrative that was better than the movies after T2, but that was when Fox would cancel anything good after 1-2 seasons.

Originally Posted by Josh-da-man

The problem with the Terminator franchise is that it is, by design, a closed loop.

I think that The Terminator would have been perfect for a trilogy. The first movie would be the original movie from 1984. The second would have started the machine war, and the third would have had John Connor ending it. Closed loop.

But they just kept rehashing the same basic plot formula over and over again -- send someone/something back in time to prevent/insure a future apocalypse. It's the slasher movie formula, where Michael Myers and Jason Vorhees just keep coming back to slice and dice more teenagers. Five Terminator sequels, and they just never go anywhere.

Originally Posted by rocket1312

Huh. I thought Dark Fate was pretty mediocre, but Arnold and Hamilton were the best parts. The problem was that the new characters were as bland as could be and overall it was a pretty tired rehash of T2. But to be fair I honestly don't remember a thing about it beyond Carl the Terminator.

Originally Posted by Runaway

Terminator Salvation tried something new and while the execution of the movie wasn't perfect, the general idea was. Ditch Arnie and show the actual war.