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Old 07-25-16 | 10:46 PM
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Hey, those kids in Stanger Things used. it, too!
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Old 07-25-16 | 11:51 PM
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NOTE : while this occurred before Death in the Family in the comic storyline, this version definitely suggested it was afterward. Kind of interesting IMO .
I noticed that, also. Same year but Death in the Family was definitely way after the Killing Joke.
Old 07-26-16 | 02:21 AM
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So I'm guessing this must have turned in a little profit with what few screens it appeared on. Because I've seen well over 30 IG accounts who posted pics of their tickets.

Is there another popular adult DC graphic novel that could repeat this business?
Old 07-26-16 | 02:28 AM
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Re: Batman: The Killing Joke

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So I'm guessing this must have turned in a little profit with what few screens it appeared on. Because I've seen well over 30 IG accounts who posted pics of their tickets.

Is there another popular adult DC graphic novel that could repeat this business?
Long Halloween
Hush


Those are the only two I can think of. They would definitely have to be longer than 75 minutes, though.
Old 07-26-16 | 11:47 AM
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Hush? People still like that POS retread of The Long Haloween?

Jeff Loeb only had one good story in him, The Long Halloween. Everything he's done since then has been derivative and predictable. Hush was an awful story and everyone could see the twist coming a mile away. Loeb makes Shyamalan look subtle.
Old 07-26-16 | 12:00 PM
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I still love Hush. Never really understood the hate, and I love the art and the Jason Todd stuff. Damn mouthbreathers!
Old 07-26-16 | 03:46 PM
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The special showing of this last night made $3.175m, or to put it into recent Box Office perspective, about 2.5 times as much as Neon Demon's entire run.
Old 07-26-16 | 03:53 PM
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That's really good, I want to go watch the showing tonight, but I think I will just wait for the bluray. Why pay $10 for a ticket when can buy it for $16.99 on sale next week.
Old 07-26-16 | 04:02 PM
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Re: Batman: The Killing Joke

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Hush? People still like that POS retread of The Long Haloween?

Jeff Loeb only had one good story in him, The Long Halloween. Everything he's done since then has been derivative and predictable. Hush was an awful story and everyone could see the twist coming a mile away. Loeb makes Shyamalan look subtle.
I'm a Jim Lee fanboy for life. That's what I liked most about Hush. I also think hush was better than Batman and Robin that Frank Miller wrote a few years ago that was also drawn by Jim Lee.

The Court of Owls storyline is pretty neat, so there's that one.
Old 07-26-16 | 04:08 PM
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Went last night and was pretty underwhelmed.
Old 07-26-16 | 04:10 PM
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The special showing of this last night made $3.175m, or to put it into recent Box Office perspective, about 2.5 times as much as Neon Demon's entire run.
That's impressive.
Old 07-26-16 | 05:23 PM
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Went last night and was pretty underwhelmed.
I wasn't planning on seeing it so I watched a review on YouTube by Chris Stuckman. He gave it a C+. He didn't the whole first act with Bat Girl. He thought some of the animation was lacking, especially on the big screen. He really liked it when the movie stuck to the source material.
Old 07-26-16 | 05:39 PM
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It was alright, and I can appreciate them wanting to do something with Barbara other than just have her get shot, but her and Bruce

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Was way out of character for both of them, and more than a little creepy.
Old 07-26-16 | 06:06 PM
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I'm a Jim Lee fanboy for life. That's what I liked most about Hush. I also think hush was better than Batman and Robin that Frank Miller wrote a few years ago that was also drawn by Jim Lee.
That's like damning with faint praise though. Nobody thinks Miller and Lee's unfinished All Star Batman and Robin was any good, other than if you're a fan of Lee's art.

I must be a mouth breather because the tacked on story and the questionable scene, added to the questionable motivation Babs has of even becoming Batgirl in the first place, are all repulsive to me. The original graphic novel has been lambasted for some time as just a "fridging" of Barbara as a motivation for the men in the story, and while they tried to flesh her part out to avoid that, it almost ends up making it worse.
Old 07-26-16 | 07:51 PM
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That's like damning with faint praise though. Nobody thinks Miller and Lee's unfinished All Star Batman and Robin was any good, other than if you're a fan of Lee's art.

I must be a mouth breather because the tacked on story and the questionable scene, added to the questionable motivation Babs has of even becoming Batgirl in the first place, are all repulsive to me. The original graphic novel has been lambasted for some time as just a "fridging" of Barbara as a motivation for the men in the story, and while they tried to flesh her part out to avoid that, it almost ends up making it worse.
Seems like they should have :

A) tried to improve the animation
B) cut back on the Batgirl story and expunged
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Old 07-26-16 | 08:34 PM
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Just saw it and enjoyed the hell out of it. The first 30 mins reminded me of this:



Which was Batgirl's last case before Killing Joke. You needed to see more of babs before she is just shot, and this helped.

'That' scene didnt bother me, but there was a lot of WTF from the audience.

The ending was well done. Batman and Joker laugh as expected and then the credits hit with no music. Only the sound of the rain. Haunting.
Old 07-26-16 | 09:13 PM
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Re: Batman: The Killing Joke

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Hush was an awful story and everyone could see the twist coming a mile away. Loeb makes Shyamalan look subtle.
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I read Hush about ten or fifteen years ago and I don't even remember a twist. Actually, I can remember very little of it.
Old 07-26-16 | 10:22 PM
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The first 20 minutes feel like completely random slash fiction from another film entirely, but Conroy and Hamill are as brilliant as you'd hope, and once they get to the actual storyline, it's totally the adaptation I'd been hoping for. I thought the animation looked pretty good myself, maybe a bit stiff, but I've seen way worse.
Old 07-27-16 | 09:01 AM
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I felt they needed to emphasize Babs and Jims relationship more so than her and Batmans. It would have given more kick to Jokers plan to drive Gordon insane.
Old 07-30-16 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by hanshotfirst1138
The first 20 minutes feel like completely random slash fiction from another film entirely, but Conroy and Hamill are as brilliant as you'd hope, and once they get to the actual storyline, it's totally the adaptation I'd been hoping for. I thought the animation looked pretty good myself, maybe a bit stiff, but I've seen way worse.
I kept waiting for something to tie the 1st 20 minutes into the main story. Like that psycho who was obsessed with Batgirl ended up being the Joker's son or something. But it never came. The main story may have been faithful but as a whole I was underwhelmed by this.
Old 07-30-16 | 10:47 AM
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Re: Batman: The Killing Joke

Originally Posted by Supermallet
Hush? People still like that POS retread of The Long Haloween?

Jeff Loeb only had one good story in him, The Long Halloween. Everything he's done since then has been derivative and predictable. Hush was an awful story and everyone could see the twist coming a mile away. Loeb makes Shyamalan look subtle.
I've always liked Loeb. His big Batman stories that I've read (The Long Halloween, Dark Victory, Haunted Knight, Hush) are all some of my favorite Batman stories. I agree that The Long Halloween is his most memorable work but I liked those other stories too. He's also done some good work with Marvel with his color series (Spider-Man: Blue, Hulk: Gray, Daredevil: Yellow, and I haven't read it but he's doing one currently, Captain America: White).
Old 07-31-16 | 01:58 PM
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Rented the BD last night (it was put out early where I go to)

Thought it was pretty good. Normally don't really watch these DC animated movies, but it was a surprisingly really dark and violent animated movie.

I liked that it was a mix of a Joker origin story and also brought up the origin story of Oracle. Hamill was great as Joker and Conroy, who I've heard as Wayne/Batman in the past was solid as usual.

I didn't realize that Barbara Gordon had a thing for Bruce Wayne.

Probably won't watch this again, but I thought it was a good rental and watch, especially for fans of Batman. Really short at just under 77 minutes. Unless you're a hardcore fan of the material, I wouldn't pay $10+ to see this in theatres. Just wait until it's officially released on Tuesday.
Old 07-31-16 | 03:01 PM
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I didn't realize that Barbara Gordon had a thing for Bruce Wayne.
She never did, which is one of the reasons fanboys are pissed. It's kinda creepy honestly, as their relationship has always been more along the lines of a father/daughter type thing.
Old 07-31-16 | 03:34 PM
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Bruce and Barbara were going on a date in her first appearance on the TV show!

These outraged fanboys need to learn history. In the 60's and 70's she was much closer in age to Bruce than she was to Dick. It was only in the mid 2000's they started making Barbara younger and younger to retcon a relationship with Dick.
Old 07-31-16 | 04:13 PM
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She never did, which is one of the reasons fanboys are pissed. It's kinda creepy honestly, as their relationship has always been more along the lines of a father/daughter type thing.
There's been hints of a relationship between them dropped a few times but they've never really officially been dating that I remember.


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