JeffTheAlpaca

[QUOTE=Decker;13820408] Way to be on top of the news. That song was posted in this thread 238 days ago


I saw the video on MTV Live yesterdat and I thought maybe nobody hear listens to her it might be news lol

devilshalo

Take a break from scouring the tv for little known blonde hotties to post and keep up with other threads.

DJariya

Eilish's song came out months ago as Decker said. But the music video was just released. That's why some were thinking if they were moving forward with the release.

dex14

I guess if a streamer is willing to pay big bucks so the producers make back their money and then some... Considering Coming To America 2 got $125mil...
I’m more surprised Apple doesn’t flat out buy MGM.

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Artman

As much as I hate to say it...makes sense. If they were offered 4-500m, which covers everything (budget, marketing) I think you take it. I just don't see any way this (or any film) makes 7-800m theatrically next April.

dex14

Yea... It would have to be $500mil minimum.

Runaway

The question is how long the studio can affort to wait. Cut your losses now and sell it to Netflix or keep hope alive and wait for the theaters to open up again. I don't think there is a right decision to make only variations of bad. Warner rolled the dice with Tenet and while I would say the movie did fairly well in Europe, the domestic and chinese box office are much too low. The chinese box office might recover till spring time, but US theaters won't be packed then either. Disney's experiment with Mulan seems to be an even bigger failure.

dex14

MGM can’t afford it. They always seem to be one move away from bankruptcy. And it was reported earlier this year that they had met with Apple and Netflix to gauge interest in acquisition.

james2025a

If Netflix or any other streamer bought out MGM it would be a big get simply for the Bond franchise.

Its going to be interesting as i am sure a movie like this released under normal circumstance would easily make a profit. Puts the studios in a hard spot having to wait and not recouping asap on their investment. Add on to the fact that it will mean that if the world gets any normality in 2021 it will be a seriously crowded year for films. A lot of shuffling probably take place to accomodate and ensure as many movies released profit. The one plus for studios is by that time a lot of people will be desperate to head back to the cinema and it might even increase revenues more than usual.

I am curious to see how Avatar 2 does. At this moment its still an unknown, and i am not talking about the movie itself. What happens if cinema chains go out of business before the end of the pandemic? It goes straight to streaming? Doubtful. At the same time, if the pandemic has declined and cinemas open it could end up easily toppling Endgame as the biggest movie of all time.

And people blame China for Covid. James Cameron has taken a long time with these sequels and it was clear Endgame taking his title bugged him. James Cameron created Covid to help get his title back. Conspiracy starts here. Lol.

dex14

Looks like the number was $600mil
https://variety.com/2020/film/news/j...sOqNjsHk2v7VOI

DJariya

Apple could afford it. But, Netflix is already billions in debt. I don't know if Netflix could take on that kind of debt on one movie.

If this hypothetically went to Apple, it would probably make a lot of people very mad because a lot of people aren't sold on Apple TV+ as a valuable service.

Why So Blu?

Make it so, Apple.

B5Erik

I'm not. Not even a little bit.

If MGM were bought out by Apple, or even if they just bought the rights to this movie, and No Time To Die was an Apple TV+ exclusive I'd be pissed. I'm not interested in Apple TV at all.

DJariya

I read that Barbara Broccoli basically paid off all the movie's debt with her own money. The movie is completely bought and paid for with no accruing debt. So I believe it would be up to her if she wants to recoup her investment or not or if she wants this movie to be a theatrical experience next Spring.

B5Erik

Yeah, EON owns the movie itself. I just wonder how much say they have in the distribution since they signed a contract for someone else to distribute it. That distributor would have the right to distribute it however they want - unless there's a clause in the contract giving EON the right of refusal if the distributor (MGM and whoever is distributing their movies now) tried to re-sell those rights.

DJariya

https://deadline.com/2020/10/james-b...ly-1234602960/

Deadline says this is not going to streaming. Talks died early on. Broccoli and EON nixed the offers.

Mike86

Kinda stupid to turn down an offer of $600 million if you ask me. It’s not likely to release for a long time anyways, and when it does it won’t make that much with limited capacity in theaters. Make money from selling the streaming rights and sell it later on digitally and on home media.

B5Erik

Yeah, but a Bond movie is meant for the BIG SCREEN. It loses something on a smaller screen at home.

Barbara and Michael have grown up with Bond. This is their family business. It means more to them than money. So having it seen on the big screen is important to them. If they've got a contractual right of refusal to keep it from being sold to a streaming service, then that's the right call for them.

Mike86

I mean yes, but again how long do studios sit on these movies? If you’re getting an offer that high to me it seem like a smart move to take it. Instead it’s just sitting there doing nothing, and there’s no telling how long it will be before it’s able to come out in theaters, and even when it does again theaters likely won’t be at capacity.

DJariya

Most movies are financed through interest loans. As I said earlier, Barbara completely bought and paid for No Time to Die with her own money. She's a very wealthy person and can afford it. She wants this movie to be seen by as many as possible including Europe, where Bond is a popular IP. She can afford to sit on it without raising the cost of the movie. And I know this opinion is subjective, but who wants to watch a brand new Bond movie, which is Daniel Craig's final movie, on your fucking TV scratching your balls and in your boxers eating take out. You can do that any day of the fucking week. Just my opinion though. Bond should be a night out and special experience for it's 1st viewing IMO. Not put into the realm of shitty Bruce Willis red box movies.

Mike86

Well it’s watch at home or wait likely years for new movies. Would I prefer going to a theater? Yes, but that isn’t the world we live in at the moment.

DJariya

Well, it's still 6 months away. If there's a vaccine and COVID is no longer out of control, then maybe they can release this without all the headaches. We just don't know yet. They did buy themselves some time to see what happens.

Artman

I can't see close to normal theater going returning by next April.. and yeah, while this film is in a better position than most... why not push it to next Nov? Hell, push it to April 2022. A 600m payout now vs maybe getting that if it hits a billion theatrically, for a franchise that skews older already? This wouldn't even be a case of a studio cutting it's losses, this would be a guaranteed profit decision to sell it.

dex14

Even if it did make a billion worldwide in theatres (which the last one didn’t), take away the theatre’s cut and producers would be getting in the $600-$650mil range anyway.

rw2516

These blockbuster movies sitting in the can are highly valuable assets. Their potential earnings can be added to the value of the studio. Studios are still in the black with these films listed on their balance sheet. If they are having a cash crunch they can easily borrow to keep the lights on with a completely finished Bond film in the can.
It's like you've been out of work for nine months. Money is tight. But you have several shares of Apple stock in your safe deposit box.