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Michael Corvin 05-31-16 06:08 PM

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Doesn't he own part of the franchise? It's in his best financial interest that the movie does well.

TomOpus 05-31-16 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 12815317)
Doesn't he own part of the franchise? It's in his best financial interest that the movie does well.

He is an Executive Producer of the new movie.

bluetoast 05-31-16 06:38 PM

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Here's Dan Ackroyd's cameo in a UK TV spot. Spoilers if you care.

https://twitter.com/welshghostbust/s...32986221875200

Coral 05-31-16 06:55 PM

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The butt-hurt in this thread is priceless. :lol:

Mabuse 05-31-16 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 12815317)
Doesn't he own part of the franchise? It's in his best financial interest that the movie does well.

Indeed he does.

PatD 05-31-16 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bluetoast (Post 12815343)
Here's Dan Ackroyd's cameo in a UK TV spot. Spoilers if you care.

https://twitter.com/welshghostbust/s...32986221875200

That spot has (relatively) better footage than what they put in the theatrical trailers.

Hokeyboy 05-31-16 08:32 PM

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Doctor WHOO WHOO Doctor... DETROIT!

Bluelitespecial 05-31-16 09:38 PM

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Maybe between this thread, the eventual review thread, and the regressive left thread. We might have the thread of the year for 2016.

E Unit 05-31-16 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bluetoast (Post 12815343)
Here's Dan Ackroyd's cameo in a UK TV spot. Spoilers if you care.

https://twitter.com/welshghostbust/s...32986221875200

Could care less, but count me surprised Andy Garcia is in it.

Dan 05-31-16 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluelitespecial (Post 12815512)
Maybe between this thread, the eventual review thread, and the regressive left thread. We might have the thread of the year for 2016.

No.

Dan 05-31-16 10:31 PM

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Tony Zhou (the "Every Frame a Painting" guy) did a pretty great write-up about why he perceives that the UK trailer was so much better than the US one. It's worth a click. Here's just one section of it.
https://medium.com/@tonyszhou/the-tr...221#.towa6xll9

Spoiler for size
Spoiler:
Both of these trailers build up to the exact same two shots and the exact same punchline. The only difference is how long each shot is held for. Consider the first shot, side by side.
http://i.imgur.com/GD6jdal.gif http://i.imgur.com/Cc41YFU.gif
Right away, you can see that the American version fades in from black. This adds 7 frames at the beginning of the shot, and IMO messes up the timing.
Meanwhile, the UK version not only gets to the point more quickly, it’s also 4 frames shorter at the end, which speeds us along to the group reaction shot.
http://i.imgur.com/sParFW0.gif http://i.imgur.com/SdRPLW3.gif
Here’s where the joke really dies in the American trailer. The difference between these two shots is 19 frames. That’s an eternity in joke timing.
The American cut has 8 extra frames at the beginning of the shot. I’m not a fan of this decision, but it’s not terrible. The really terrible decision was the 11 extra frames at the end of the shot.


brayzie 06-01-16 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru Askew (Post 12807037)
On the other hand, I will admit that I was pleasantly surprised to see so many positive reactions on the otherwise-vile Ghostbusters Reddit a couple days ago when the 2nd US trailer launched.

I actually like the international trailer. It establishes a scary setting, then follows up it with a nice laugh. Nice mix of adventure, action, light horror, and comedy going on within it. Leslie Jones scenes are much better here than the previous ones.

Even though this film started out with a lot of negative criticisms by fans, I bet it's gonna be a huge hit. All the un-likes the youtube trailer got only created more public awareness for the movie, and casual movie goers who were probably ambivalent about it will now want to see it just to see what all the hubub was about.

JTH182 06-01-16 07:00 AM

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Yes, the international trailer is an improvement. I guess it shows what the studio thinks Americans go for.

On a different note, I watched Trainwreck last night, and it made me think how good Bill Hader could have been as a new Ghostbuster.

A-aron 06-01-16 08:29 AM

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That television clip should have been the theatrical trailer .. short, to the point, and the famous line (and spoken by Ackroyd, no less). I liked that one. Less is certainly more.

Guru Askew 06-01-16 08:38 AM

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Did anyone else get caught up in the great Ecto Cooler freakout of 2016?

I ordered 6 cases on Amazon like any other level-headed person would have.

Edit: currently in-stock Https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01FUB9XMY..._vQVtxb2PZA82E

bluetoast 06-01-16 10:44 AM

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I ordered 3 cases. Should be enough to last me a long time...I still have cans of Moxie from like 3 months ago.

Bluelitespecial 06-01-16 11:13 AM

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out of stock

jjcool 06-01-16 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 12815317)
Doesn't he own part of the franchise? It's in his best financial interest that the movie does well.

Wouldn't surprise me. That obviously scripted "review" of the movie screams "Please go see the movie".

Guru Askew 06-01-16 11:26 AM

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Let's be perfectly honest with ourselves here. If Aykroyd was critical of the movie the same people writing off his endorsement would be treating his critique as the word of God.

inri222 06-01-16 11:35 AM

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I'm sure Dan Aykroyd liked it as much as James Cameron liked Terminator Genisys.

Guru Askew 06-01-16 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by inri222 (Post 12816008)
I'm sure Dan Aykroyd liked it as much as James Cameron liked Terminator Genisys.

Or he could hate it as much as Alan Moore hates adaptations of his comics.

bluetoast 06-01-16 12:08 PM

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Well, Alan Moore hasn't seen them, so that's a bit different. He just dislikes adaptations, and the shit that he got pulled into (lawsuit with League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, the V for Vendetta false endorsement by Joel Silver). He did read the script for V for Vendetta if I remember right, but that's about it.

Goat3001 06-01-16 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru Askew (Post 12815995)
Let's be perfectly honest with ourselves here. If Aykroyd was critical of the movie the same people writing off his endorsement would be treating his critique as the word of God.

Well, yeah, that's because there is no incentive to criticize the movie. There is a big incentive to praise the movie though so people are going to be more reluctant to believe it.

Guru Askew 06-01-16 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Goat3001 (Post 12816152)
Well, yeah, that's because there is no incentive to criticize the movie. There is a big incentive to praise the movie though so people are going to be more reluctant to believe it.

If the movie is the soul-crushing humiliation that internet nerds would have you believe then the affect it would have on his reputation would be plenty incentive. Aykroyd wouldn't be the first person to sit back and cash the checks they get from project they didn't approve of.

EddieMoney 06-01-16 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru Askew (Post 12816174)
If the movie is the soul-crushing humiliation that internet nerds would have you believe.

I think all of your posts in this thread are basically the same.

Goat3001 06-01-16 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru Askew (Post 12816174)
If the movie is the soul-crushing humiliation that internet nerds would have you believe then the affect it would have on his reputation would be plenty incentive. Aykroyd wouldn't be the first person to sit back and cash the checks they get from project they didn't approve of.

That's complete hogwash and you know it. The affect on his reputation? How much money does that make him? Meanwhile, if he panned the movie, not only would he lose out on the bottom line but he'd likely also be shunned by Sony on future projects.

The ones that disapprove of their own movies are directors that complain about studio involvement. That's not even close to the case here. As has been mentioned many times before in this thread, Akroyd has gone full carny. Coming out to say the movie is good helps sells tickets plus it puts an approving face on the movie that GB fans know, a much needed one considering the backlash.

Guru Askew 06-01-16 02:33 PM

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It would be "hogwash" if we lived in a world where nobody ever disowned or disavowed an entertainment property in which they have a financial stake. Obviously that isn't the case.

What is "hogwash" is the motion that Dan "Nothing But Trouble" Aykroyd has anything against McCarthy, Feig etc. If that's where you're coming from them the burden is on you to find something that even suggests it.

Supermallet 06-01-16 02:47 PM

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I don't put much stock in what Akroyd has to say about anything these days, but it's pretty obvious that the people who want to hate the movie will justify this as another reason to hate the movie.

Goat3001 06-01-16 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru Askew (Post 12816301)
What is "hogwash" is the motion that Dan "Nothing But Trouble" Aykroyd has anything against McCarthy, Feig etc. If that's where you're coming from them the burden is on you to find something that even suggests it.

No, I think the burden is on you to point out where I even suggested that. Otherwise, maybe you should accept that you're making it up in your head.

TheHive08 06-01-16 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by inri222 (Post 12816008)
I'm sure Dan Aykroyd liked it as much as James Cameron liked Terminator Genisys.

And I believed him. :(

Draven 06-01-16 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Supermallet (Post 12816324)
I don't put much stock in what Akroyd has to say about anything these days, but it's pretty obvious that the people who want to hate the movie will justify this as another reason to hate the movie.

I agree with you. I mentioned before that he was on the talk show I produced a number of years ago and spent 20 minutes talking about aliens and vodka.

Yet Akroyd is continually held up as someone who would have made a "great" Ghostbusters 3 if given the chance. When evidence like Ghostbusters 2 already exists to counter that notion.

Guru Askew 06-01-16 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Goat3001 (Post 12816331)
No, I think the burden is on you to point out where I even suggested that. Otherwise, maybe you should accept that you're making it up in your head.

Aykroyd said he liked it. Considering the fact that he has no beef with anyone involved in the new movie and as well as the fact that it's not unprecedented for someone in his position to criticize the remake/adaptation etc. it's reasonable to take him at his word.

You, on the other hand, subscribe to a scenario in which Aykroyd disapproves of the movie and has been pressured to lie about it. Based on nothing but your imagination.

Those two scenarios aren't on even footing, kinda like how a conspiracy theorist's ridiculous claims aren't inherently equal to the "accepted" view by merely existing.

The Bus 06-01-16 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Supermallet (Post 12816324)
I don't put much stock in what Akroyd has to say about anything these days, but it's pretty obvious that the people who want to hate the movie will justify this as another reason to hate the movie.

This is about ethics in game trailers!!!

jjcool 06-01-16 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by EddieMoney (Post 12816229)
I think all of your posts in this thread are basically the same.

Why anybody is still responding to that guy when he is so obviously trolling is the question of the day. Perhaps they like reading the same nonsense over and over?

Dan 06-01-16 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru Askew (Post 12815754)
Did anyone else get caught up in the great Ecto Cooler freakout of 2016?

I ordered 6 cases on Amazon like any other level-headed person would have.

Edit: currently in-stock Https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01FUB9XMY..._vQVtxb2PZA82E


I bought one case. :up:

robin2099 06-01-16 05:19 PM

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Aykroyd said he liked it. Considering the fact that he has no beef with anyone involved in the new movie and as well as the fact that it's not unprecedented for someone in his position to criticize the remake/adaptation etc. it's reasonable to take him at his word.
You mean the fact that Dan Akroyd has a 25% ownership of the franchise, is an executive producer, and will make lots of money if it's a hit is an unbiased source? Just like Bob Kane was an unbiased source when he said that Batman and Robin "Was how he always envisioned Batman to be from the beginning". Or how about when Stan Lee said of the first Captain America movie "It's a great movie. People were so excited by it that at the end they were cheering for more. That's why the movies delayed and going through reshoots". Also according to the Sony leak, Sony was not above pursuing legal acts against any original cast members who spoke against it.

On another note when I saw XM:A over the weekend, the trailer for this played and not a single person laughed and it was booed after it was done. I will confess though the special effects looked pretty impressive on the big screen. Minus Slimer who just looks off.

Guru Askew 06-01-16 05:34 PM

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Aykroyd's stake in the movie might be a valid reason to doubt his endorsement of the movie if there was even the tiniest shred of evidence that he disapproved of it.

You won't find it. The haters would have been running with it for months by now if there was as much as hint that Aykroyd was against this movie. This is a case of people projecting their own disapproval onto Aykroyd. Being suspicious of a rabid hater changing his tune after he realizes he's a Sony shareholder? Valid. Playing mental gymnastics to the point where someone's positive report of a movie somehow proves he hated it? Invalid.

TomOpus 06-01-16 06:31 PM

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I almost feel like it would've been better for Aykroyd to either not say anything or downplay his remarks. He sounded desperate, doing damage control.

brayzie 06-01-16 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru Askew (Post 12816487)
Aykroyd's stake in the movie might be a valid reason to doubt his endorsement of the movie if there was even the tiniest shred of evidence that he disapproved of it.

You seem pretty biased. People have already provided examples of professionals having ulterior motives when endorsing/praising certain films. The fact that Aykroyd has a financial stake in the film's success is reason enough for some to cast doubt on the sincerity of his statements.

That said, seeing the international trailer, combined witih Aykroyd's endorsement makes me believe this new Ghostbusters film is going to be a worthy reboot/sequel. The humor seems pretty inline with the original.

Yates: Why am I operating the untested nuclear laser?

Hotlzmann: Because you have the longest arms.

brayzie 06-01-16 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TomOpus (Post 12816522)
I almost feel like it would've been better for Aykroyd to either not say anything or downplay his remarks. He sounded desperate, doing damage control.

I read your comment before reading his statement, otherwise I wouldn't have really paid that much attention to this part: "As one of millions of man-fans and Ray Stantz, I'm paying to see that and bringing all my friends!"

It does sound a little desperate, but the producers have to deal with the unprecedented hate this reboot has received in the form of most dislikes for a YouTube trailer ever, and negative videos like the one from the AVGN.

However, he can't not endorse it because if the original Ghostbusters don't endorse it, then it looks bad.


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