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Solid Snake 05-20-16 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by fumanstan (Post 12807178)
The international trailer wasn't that bad, much better then the two US ones.

It is. It's not really funny but it's a better made trailer.

wmansir 05-20-16 10:05 PM

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I like the new trailer better, but that may mostly be from lowered expectations. Favorite bit was probably the Patty "I'm just just going to leave" moment but that was kind of ruined by the selfie-stick appearance, which seemed like an already dated joke straight out of a lame "parody" movie.

I also liked the "She may have misspoke"/"sad lonely women" part but mostly because I remember Feig explained that joke in his pitch to Sony (which was leaked in the emails) and it has the potential to be a good running gag.

DaveyJoe 05-20-16 10:23 PM

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That was a much better trailer, it had some moments that were pretty amusing. I might check this out on home video after all.

B5Erik 05-21-16 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru Askew (Post 12806947)
... there is a backlash against McCarthy everywhere you look online. Forbes even wrote an article called "Can Melissa McCarthty's Career Survive All These Hits?" as a response to Internet reports that tend to downplay her successes. The only difference is that those "types" (wink wink, I'm talking about the sexist nerds) can generally avoid her other movies whereas Ghostbusters puts her at ground zero of the nerd world.

You're actually coming close to a point there. Now that she's in a movie that people who would otherwise avoid her movies like the plague wanted to see there is a backlash. It's fine when she's in movies that genre fans don't give a shit about, but when someone casts her in a movie that genre fans would otherwise like to watch a backlash should be expected.

I would only watch a movie with Melissa McCarthy in it if everything and everyone else in it looked really good. This isn't that movie. Not even close.


You don't even need to venture outside this forum or even this thread to see a substantial amount of McCarthy hatred.
Yes! Because she's AWFUL!!!! Truly annoying and UNfunny.

For me, personally, there have been plenty of male comedic actors who I hated over the last 3 decades (David Spade, Andrew Dice Clay, Chris Farley, etc). She's just one of many comedic actors that I strongly dislike.

Crocker Jarmen 05-21-16 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mabuse (Post 12807229)
It's not the real Time Square, it's completely conjured using special effects. So they made every ad either a joke (Twinkies) or a Sony product to avoid having to license real products that advertise there. I doubt that Taxi Driver was ever advertised in Time Square on a 40 foot tall billboard.

I don't think it is just that. All those movies came out around the same time--the early 70s, which suggests they were chosen for a reason more significant than an in-joke. Also notice how the theatres have the old style marquees.

B5Erik 05-21-16 12:26 PM

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As far as the International trailer...

...it still looks bad. Really bad. Epic bad. The International trailer makes it look like a SNL all-female parody of Ghostbusters. A bad parody.

The only thing that made it any better was the NON inclusion of Jones' crowd surf, "black or woman thing," fall and rant. That's one of the most pathetic gags I've seen in decades.

Draven 05-21-16 12:41 PM

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I'm really digging the remix version of the theme song. While the original will always be the best, I always like different takes on songs and that one has really stuck in my head.

Sean O'Hara 05-21-16 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by B5Erik (Post 12807806)
You're actually coming close to a point there. Now that she's in a movie that people who would otherwise avoid her movies like the plague wanted to see there is a backlash. It's fine when she's in movies that genre fans don't give a shit about, but when someone casts her in a movie that genre fans would otherwise like to watch a backlash should be expected.

Genre fans have never been the main audience for Ghostbusters.

B5Erik 05-21-16 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean O'Hara (Post 12807820)
Genre fans have never been the main audience for Ghostbusters.

The movie crossed over for sure, but genre fans have remained the most vocal supporters (and purchasers) of the movie over the last 25 years or so...

Mike86 05-21-16 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean O'Hara (Post 12807820)
Genre fans have never been the main audience for Ghostbusters.

Huh? Genre fans have kept the franchise alive when there hasn't been much movement of any kind on the property in years. It's a classic film either way but fans have elevated the importance it holds to a lot of people.

Sean O'Hara 05-21-16 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by B5Erik (Post 12807843)
The movie crossed over for sure, but genre fans have remained the most vocal supporters (and purchasers) of the movie over the last 25 years or so...

Yes, and the number of fans necessary to keep a moribund series generating money is far less than it takes to make a new film a financial success. Catering to fanboys is not a viable option -- just ask Joss Whedon how that worked with Serenity. Or compare the box office take for the TNG Trek movies and JJTrek. Or the sales figures for Marvel comics and Marvel movies.

Hollywood doesn't need genre fans.

Mike86 05-21-16 02:36 PM

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Hollywood doesn't need genre fans necessarily but it doesn't hurt to have them on your side either. Disney is a prime example of knowing how to appease both fanboys and the general public with the Marvel films and with Star Wars. It can certainly be easy to just sweep the fans who have been supportive off to the side but that's kind of short sighted. The reality is this film and others like it will be the flavor of the month with likely not as much staying power. So while they'll make money in the short term it doesn't pay off to piss off fans completely in my opinion.

Mabuse 05-21-16 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by B5Erik (Post 12807806)
You're actually coming close to a point there. Now that she's in a movie that people who would otherwise avoid her movies like the plague wanted to see there is a backlash. It's fine when she's in movies that genre fans don't give a shit about, but when someone casts her in a movie that genre fans would otherwise like to watch a backlash should be expected.

What you've said is exactly it for me. I felt the same way about Cars. I love Pixar movies, but when it turned out to be a Larry the Cable Guy movie I was pretty disapointed. He even says, "Get 'er done!" at one point. Absolute low point for Pixar. Then came Cars 2...BARF!

bluetoast 05-21-16 03:58 PM

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Yeah I stil never saw Cars 2, or The Good Dinosaur. Monsters University was also a bottom of the barrel effort.

RichC2 05-21-16 08:29 PM

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I actually liked Cars, it was a love letter to the road trip and exploring the backroads, and it also just seemed completely different than everything else Pixar (which is a good thing in my book.) But yeah, Cars 2 and Monsters U were just bad.

Michael Corvin 05-21-16 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by B5Erik (Post 12807806)
You're actually coming close to a point there. Now that she's in a movie that people who would otherwise avoid her movies like the plague wanted to see there is a backlash. It's fine when she's in movies that genre fans don't give a shit about, but when someone casts her in a movie that genre fans would otherwise like to watch a backlash should be expected.

Excellent point.


Originally Posted by Sean O'Hara (Post 12807890)
Yes, and the number of fans necessary to keep a moribund series generating money is far less than it takes to make a new film a financial success.

I agree, but on the flipside the only reason this movie exists is because of said fans keeping the franchise alive for the past 30 years.

Brack 05-22-16 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by RichC2 (Post 12808005)
I actually liked Cars, it was a love letter to the road trip and exploring the backroads, and it also just seemed completely different than everything else Pixar (which is a good thing in my book.) But yeah, Cars 2 and Monsters U were just bad.

It was an okay remake of Doc Hollywood. ;)

Big Boy Laroux 05-24-16 10:29 AM

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Just watched the international trailer - it IS better, and you know why? not ONE, SINGLE shot of Jones yelling/screaming, which we've seen in every trailer so far.

you guys can say what you want about McCarthy, i don't mind her at all. But how anyone finds Jones' schtick funny is completely incomprehensible to me.

Mike86 05-24-16 11:31 AM

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Yeah Jones has come across as the stereotypical angry black lady in the other trailers so far. Her along with McCarthy are the biggest things making me not wanting to see this.

jjcool 05-24-16 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike86 (Post 12809809)
Yeah Jones has come across as the stereotypical angry black lady in the other trailers so far.

That's her style of "comedy". Everything she is in, she "acts" the exact same way. Just like how McCarthy is always joking about her size and how she is out of shape, and how she doesn't fit into situations because of how she looks. Same thing in every performance. I'm sure some troll will be along before too long to tell me that I'm a racist or a sexist because I don't find their tired old schtick funny.


Originally Posted by Mike86 (Post 12809809)
Her along with McCarthy are the biggest things making me not wanting to see this.

Agreed. Followed very closely by Wiig, who I never found funny in the least.

McKinnon, on the other hand, I find to be hilarious.

Big Boy Laroux 05-24-16 12:48 PM

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bluetoast 05-24-16 01:18 PM

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I'll just assume it's a logarithmic scale.

Bluelitespecial 05-24-16 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Boy Laroux (Post 12809753)
Just watched the international trailer - it IS better, and you know why? not ONE, SINGLE shot of Jones yelling/screaming, which we've seen in every trailer so far.

you guys can say what you want about McCarthy, i don't mind her at all. But how anyone finds Jones' schtick funny is completely incomprehensible to me.

At 6' tall She is still the only woman out of this cast I buy as a Ghostbuster.

Big Boy Laroux 05-24-16 01:39 PM

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Not sure what height has to do with shooting ghosts with lasers? It's not like they're engaging them in hand-to-hand combat.

Bluelitespecial 05-24-16 01:46 PM

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She is the only character who I would say fits the type of ghostbuster which are modeled after Garbage men. 6' tall not too skinny or too fat for the role and looks believable for the part. The other three actresses are not tall enough, too skinny or too fat. Since its going to be the same movie beat for beat as the original, its bull shit fantasy that these women would save New York.

Big Boy Laroux 05-24-16 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluelitespecial (Post 12809924)
She is the only character who I would say fits the type of ghostbuster which are modeled after Garbage men. 6' tall not too skinny or too fat for the role and looks believable for the part. The other three actresses are not tall enough, too skinny or too fat. Since its going to be the same movie beat for beat as the original, its bull shit fantasy that these women would save New York.


ok, that makes zero sense. The originals weren't garbagemen - they were (and are) professors/scientists (except Winston and now Jones). Wiig and McKinnon are average female height. McCarthy below average, Jones above average.

Again, their physical stature has nothing to do with fighting ghosts. it's all science and proton packs and ghost traps.


Edit: - Ah, I see you've already argued your weird point earlier in this thread. So I'll just reference you back to everyone that disagreed with you then.

Bluelitespecial 05-24-16 01:59 PM

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They are modeled after garbage men that has been said many times by Dan Akyroyd.

Mike86 05-24-16 02:00 PM

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Yeah that is a bullshit excuse. The gender isn't an issue for me either its who they chose to be in the film.

Big Boy Laroux 05-24-16 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluelitespecial (Post 12809933)
They are modeled after garbage men that has been said many times by Dan Akyroyd.

you've taken his quotes WAAAAAAAAAAY too literally. he has referred to them in that way regarding it being people with "a job to do", a normal part of life, "everymen".

http://www.esquire.com/entertainment...-oral-history/

"AYKROYD: They were like vacuum cleaner or elevator repairmen, or firemen. The idea was to have them blend into the urban landscape. Calling a Ghostbuster was just like getting rats removed."


he in no way has said he modeled them physically after garbagemen. You're grasping for straws.

(by the way, women can be garbage collectors AND firefighters! Who knew?!)

Draven 05-24-16 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluelitespecial (Post 12809924)
She is the only character who I would say fits the type of ghostbuster which are modeled after Garbage men. 6' tall not too skinny or too fat for the role and looks believable for the part. The other three actresses are not tall enough, too skinny or too fat. Since its going to be the same movie beat for beat as the original, its bull shit fantasy that these women would save New York.

Why you say you aren't successful with the ladies is beyond me. :rolleyes:.

So, only tall, average weight men can save New York City? This is TRULY the position you are going with?

PatD 05-24-16 02:40 PM

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Who wants to place bets that Leslie Jones' character will say one or more of the following:

"Oh, HELL, naw!"
"Now THAT'S what I'm talking about!"
"That IS nasty!"
"Daayaaamn!"

Guru Askew 05-24-16 02:41 PM

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Who wants to place bets that a bunch of socially inept nerds will lose their shit over this movie?

Dan 05-24-16 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru Askew (Post 12809975)
Who wants to place bets that a bunch of socially inept nerds will lose their shit over this movie?

If I could make this bet, like, three years ago, I'd have got a second mortgage on my house just for the bet.

PatD 05-24-16 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru Askew (Post 12809975)
Who wants to place bets that a bunch of socially inept nerds will lose their shit over this movie?

Stooping to personal attacks is more akin to "losing their shit" than criticizing the movie in question.

"You don't like Paul Blart: Mall Cop? Well, you're a cocksucker!" Nowhere on this board for the many years I've been on it have people been this uptight over a movie pro or con like this one.

printerati 05-24-16 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike86 (Post 12809809)
Yeah Jones has come across as the stereotypical angry black lady in the other trailers so far. Her along with McCarthy are the biggest things making me not wanting to see this.

I see what you did there.

I saw the trailer (the second one, I assume) for the first time before The Angry Birds Movie over the weekend. The only complimentary thing I can say about it is that some of the effects looked nice. It got no reaction from the audience whatsoever, whereas The Lego Batman Movie teaser went over quite well.

Guru Askew 05-24-16 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by PatD (Post 12809985)
"You don't like Paul Blart: Mall Cop? Well, you're a cocksucker!" Nowhere on this board for the many years I've been on it have people been this uptight over a movie pro or con like this one.

How is this movie anything like Paul Blart: Mall Cop?

I can't wait to see what you say.

Giantrobo 05-24-16 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jjcool (Post 12809847)
That's her style of "comedy". Everything she is in, she "acts" the exact same way. Just like how McCarthy is always joking about her size and how she is out of shape, and how she doesn't fit into situations because of how she looks. Same thing in every performance. I'm sure some troll will be along before too long to tell me that I'm a racist or a sexist because I don't find their tired old schtick funny.

Naw. You might be sexist or racist for other reasons but not in this particular post.

But seriously, I agree with you about Jones. I've said in this thread that Jones needs to grow past this one "Angry Black Woman" persona in her roles to have staying power. But then again, McCarthy has, according to you and others here, done the same "fat girl" persona...Yet...she been very successful much to the dismay of folks here. So perhaps these successful women know more about their careers and what they need than you and I?

Mike86 05-24-16 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by PatD (Post 12809985)
Stooping to personal attacks is more akin to "losing their shit" that criticizing the movie in question.

"You don't like Paul Blart: Mall Cop? Well, you're a cocksucker!" Nowhere on this board for the many years I've been on it have people been this uptight over a movie pro or con like this one.

This I agree with. I don't think I've ever seen people get so defensive over a movie on this board. Whether its excitement for or people against a film. Sort of odd that this of all things has brought out the worst in some people seemingly.

Draven 05-24-16 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike86 (Post 12810029)
This I agree with. I don't think I've ever seen people get so defensive over a movie on this board. Whether its excitement for or people against a film. Sort of odd that this of all things has brought out the worst in some people seemingly.

Makes you wonder if there is more going on than just how the trailers look, doesn't it?

Mabuse 05-24-16 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by PatD (Post 12809973)
Who wants to place bets that Leslie Jones' character will say one or more of the following:

"Oh, HELL, naw!"
"Now THAT'S what I'm talking about!"
"That IS nasty!"
"Daayaaamn!"

This is a joke.


Originally Posted by Guru Askew (Post 12809975)
Who wants to place bets that a bunch of socially inept nerds will lose their shit over this movie?

This is a personal attack. Whose losing their shit?


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